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skywake

With all this talk of shiny customisable buttons on touch screens lets not forget reality. Remember that the 3DS, DS and Wii U had both physical face buttons AND a touch screen. This move as shiny as it may look is effectively them removing a feature for little actual gain. If they're going for haptic feedback and multi-touch that's fine but they shouldn't remove the face buttons in the process.

Also remember that buttons are very, very cheap. For comparison a high end mechanical keyboard at retail is ~$1/key. If they were to use those kind of switches in a controller? The face buttons and d-Pad would at most add $10 or so to the total cost. But controllers don't use mechanical switches, they use membrane switches. Keys that are at least 1/10th of the cost. We're talking $1 for them to include buttons.....

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Luna_110

I certainly hope that control's fake. It really doesn't look confortable... And I admit, I'm not sold on the idea of virtual buttons.
Well. e3 ought to be interesting this year, at least.

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MisterPi

And it's not even a case of "Well people thought the wii remote was awful and look how that turned out" (Despite the wii remote having its very own set of limitations).

Everyone knows what touch screen buttons are like. And even if there is some form of "feedback", that is not going to be observable by the public when it's revealed. All people will see is a touchscreen without buttons, and just like that, Nintendo somehow manages to make an even worse first impression than they did with the Wii U. So yes, I am reeeeaaaaaaalllly hoping these are fake, but if I'm honest, I'm thinking they're real.

On the other hand, if they are real, and Nintendo sees the backlash against such a dumb decision, maybe they'll add in physical buttons before launch. After all, the gamepad was shown off with circle pads before being given proper sticks.

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McGruber

I've said since the white dev unit was leaked that I thought this was real, and I still do. I've never seen a leak look more credible and real, especially for actual hardware. That makes me incredibly sad, especially looking at my New 3DS's beautiful colorful ABXY buttons. I just pray to god in heaven that the NX also has a Pro controller for at home gaming.

A couple things I'd like to note:

1. In the previous NX info leak on Duel Pixels it said "Developers have described to me more than once that it visually and functionally looks as if “Samsung and the Nintendo 2DS” had a baby, in that it looks friendly but unlike what most people visualize a Nintendo device to typically look"
That description matches these images.

2. If you look closely, you can see the shoulder wheels on the top of both of the leaked units.

3. Also if you look closely at the newest images, you can see it doesn't sit flush against the table. There are definitely Wii U gamepad-esque grips on the back. So people who say the leaked didn't take a pic of the back because there's nothing there are definitely wrong.

All this being said, I really HOPE it's fake, but nothing seen here screams fake or even something out of the realm of possibility. This is Nintendo we are talking about. We know they aren't going to just put out a console with a standard controller, and that there will be a gimmick. The lack of buttons is truly the one thing that saddens me.

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VelvetElvis

It appears that this is most definitely not the NX controller. The leaker himself has confirmed it's a fake:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4avdcg/codename_...

I assume the identical black version that was leaked later was from the same person, part of the same scheme or a copycat. We still have the Nintendo patent that the "leaker" based his fake on, but for now, we're back in that special kind of NX darkness.

VelvetElvis

VelvetElvis

@Nintenbomba128: But that is a differently shaped Wii U GamePad. I like the GamePad, but I'd expect Nintendo to make a very clear visual distinction between their new platform and the Wii U.

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shaneoh

Nintenbomba128 wrote:

This isn't the real design but i hope that it looks a bit like this
http://orig00.deviantart.net/db5c/f/2016/053/2/7/nx_gamepad_b...

Maybe with a free-form screen.

Looks like a gamepad lite. It looks too thin and delicate, I require chunky and a bit of weight. Something tough that I can hold in my manly hands.

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skywake

Guys, I found another image of the NX. This one is totally legit because I know a guy who knows a guy who took the photo. It's not at all a picture of the NVidia Shield I just googled and slapped some logos on.....
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DefHalan

@skywake: pfft. Totally fake. ABXY are in the wrong spots. Nice try Skywake... nice try

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I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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DjLewe78

Great fake! Annoying as hell though

At least there's still an element of Nintendo magic still intact for E3.
I just hope what they show us looks better than the fakes now !

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WebHead

pretty please can we not you gloss for the finish?

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Nego

Even though I prefer physical buttons for the instant feedback pressing them gives you, I don't mind touchscreen buttons on the 3DS or on a smart phone. But I don't get them on a separate controller because if you are playing on a TV, you have to take your eyes off of it just to see where the button is on the controller. Physical buttons do not have this problem as you can easily just feel them with your fingers.

The fan-made concept images @mario_yo posted look alright (the controller does look a bit uncomfortable though) and it makes me hope for a hybrid of both physical and touch screen buttons if Nintendo feels inclined to add in the latter.

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WebHead

How much do you guys think a free form screen would cost?

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Octane

More than a regular screen.

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VelvetElvis

Have we floated the idea of smart devices being used as supplementary controllers? Or docked to the controller? Or perhaps even the inclusion of a simple mini-tablet, a la the Vizio P-Series TV?

Situations like that would allow for backwards compatibility, reduce the cost of the platform (on the assumption that almost everyone buying a video gaming system has a smart device), and make Wii U ports playable in their natural state. Perhaps this could be an alternative control scheme? Maybe the "premium" home console version includes a controller with a built-in free-form screen? In any case, I could see NX-exclusive games focusing more on supplementary displays on the additional screen or smart device (i.e. health, stats, maps, chat) rather than asymmetric gameplay, or other situations that outright require two screens.

This is pretty far out there, and I'm honestly just broadcasting rough thoughts, but perhaps smart devices could in some way serve as supplemental computing devices, similar to this very interesting patent? Incorporating mobile in some way would be a very forward-thinking move for Nintendo, to emphasize unity rather than an "us vs. them" mentality in mobile and home gaming. Could be an especially appealing move in Japan, where mobile is really eating console gaming's lunch.

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WebHead

@VelvetElvis: Yeah perhaps the controller has a built in, slide out smartphone dock.

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Nego

@VelvetElvis: Considering I don't have a smart phone or a smart device that would most likely be compatible with it (I do have a Windows tablet) and don't plan on getting one I oppose the idea of having smart devices replace controllers. Plus they lack physical buttons which is a no-go when you're supposed to be looking away from the controller when playing a game.

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