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DjLewe78

OK I think that the fact that the picture of the UE4 demo slapped on the screen and the frankly odd faded button layout means it's probably fake. How ever could it be a mock up ? Who knows ? Now it's all settled down though and we have thought about it, if they revealed that tomorrow would you be OK with it? Id have one I think

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DefHalan

DjLewe78 wrote:

OK I think that the fact that the picture of the UE4 demo slapped on the screen and the frankly odd faded button layout means it's probably fake. How ever could it be a mock up ? Who knows ? Now it's all settled down though and we have thought about it, if they revealed that tomorrow would you be OK with it? Id have one I think

I mean, would I buy the Nintendo device? Yes. I would need to see how this controller works. I understood how the GamePad worked and how it could enhance games the moment I saw it. I would need some explanation for this since I already own a device that can do everything this new one can but with physical buttons.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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skywake

GrailUK wrote:

Extra, superfluous image surrounding it. So technically, your thumbs would be covering up 'bonus screen' and not the main visual focus.

Something like this:

..... yeah, I'm not sure what the actual advantage is. It's 100% pure novelty.

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iKhan

DefHalan wrote:

@iKhan: What could this do that the 3DS or Wii U GamePad couldn't? The 3DS and Wii U GamePad offer real buttons that allows your hands not to cover up most of the screen. This just seems to bring all the problems of a Smart Phone for gaming purposes without any of the added benefits. I would really have to see how games can benefit from this type of device before being excited.

Like I just said. The flanking edges of the screen could display images that you can't interact with, but that had to an immersive environment.

Those edges could also independently respond to touch, such that developers can program custom button layouts on each side that are easily accessible to both hands, or so they can allow swipe control with both thumbs.

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Therad

I don't think it is a terrible idea for an handheld (except they should have physical buttons). They can give you more screen estate without having to make the device bigger, which is a real benefit.

Also, they can give visual feedback around the sticks/buttons. So instead of adding a flashing (A) on the screen, they can add around the button. And often in games they give visual cues when you get hit, which in this case wouldn't clutter up the main part of the screen.

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GrailUK

@skywake: Ye exactly like that. Now that would be 100%, bonafide, unmitigated gimmick (and to be clear, I did not consider the Wiimote to be a gimmick.) Now, you could imagine instead of the pinkypurple border on that video, you could extrapolate the games environment (again, not really a selling point) but what the NX controller screen did was simply take a strip of the screen. So it has to be fake. If you took a strip of the video you showed (just whats on the actual monitor) you would be playing a guys head bobbing up and down, not being able to see the floor where you are walking lol. It would be awful.

@DjLewe78: I would buy it with a similar concept, but I think the NX piccy is very flawed and fake! I just don't see third party publishers jumping for joy unless Nintendo capture a new blue ocean of consumers.

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PikPi

So we have the game informer dude saying it matches what he's been told. And Robertson saying it's not legit. So who do we trust more?

IMO, it's just stupid and weird enough that I would believe Nintendo would think it's a good idea, but I'm hoping with all my being that they it's fake.

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DjLewe78

It looks kinda like a phone in a weird way, the size etc. I wonder if its the handheld and it connects with the phone in your pocket, and you use the headphones to talk and touch to answer?

So many questions.....

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haigh1011

@Operative: I reckon it was an early concept of the controller, when the NX is reveal its going to be nothing like what anyone thinks, They give developers these DEV kits because they they know they will get leaked

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VelvetElvis

I feel like the advent of 3D printing is going to take the tech leaks game to a whole new level.

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DjLewe78

Gaming seems to be the last industry to say goodbye to physical buttons so perhaps it was always going to happen, it just took a company with huge experience and even bigger balls to do it!

I think the removal of buttons makes it a
much more approachable pad for everyone (except the die hard call of duty crew).
IF I hand my wife the PS4 pad she freaks out, as do my other non gaming mates.
I mean try and explain what button to press for shoot, run, grenade, maps etc, it's a no go and actually puts people off and they give up.
I'm up for this as it's kinda making sense to me now.

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skywake

DjLewe78 wrote:

Gaming seems to be the last industry to say goodbye to physical buttons so perhaps it was always going to happen

Buttons are one of only two or three things that portables have over phones and tablets. The other things being more options for distribution of large files (i.e. cartridges) and a more premium market. Now the distribution problem is slowly going away with improved infrastructure and storage. If you take away the buttons? All portables have left is the higher cost of content.....

Though to be fair the biggest issue pure touch screen devices have is analogue stick emulation. This solves that issue. So in theory you probably wouldn't have many issues playing shooters or racing games. And in theory there are ways to get around just having a touch screen for some strategy and adventure games. Though good luck trying to play platformers, fighting games or any game that requires that kind of precision.

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Octane

@DjLewe78: That doesn't make a difference. When you're playing games, the screen would display other buttons as well. It would still be as 'confusing' as before.

Haptic feedback can only do so much. However when I'm looking at my TV, I don't want to look down every time I want to press a button, especially not for games that require quick and accurate input.

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skywake

With all this talk of shiny customisable buttons on touch screens lets not forget reality. Remember that the 3DS, DS and Wii U had both physical face buttons AND a touch screen. This move as shiny as it may look is effectively them removing a feature for little actual gain. If they're going for haptic feedback and multi-touch that's fine but they shouldn't remove the face buttons in the process.

Also remember that buttons are very, very cheap. For comparison a high end mechanical keyboard at retail is ~$1/key. If they were to use those kind of switches in a controller? The face buttons and d-Pad would at most add $10 or so to the total cost. But controllers don't use mechanical switches, they use membrane switches. Keys that are at least 1/10th of the cost. We're talking $1 for them to include buttons.....

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Luna_110

I certainly hope that control's fake. It really doesn't look confortable... And I admit, I'm not sold on the idea of virtual buttons.
Well. e3 ought to be interesting this year, at least.

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PikPi

And it's not even a case of "Well people thought the wii remote was awful and look how that turned out" (Despite the wii remote having its very own set of limitations).

Everyone knows what touch screen buttons are like. And even if there is some form of "feedback", that is not going to be observable by the public when it's revealed. All people will see is a touchscreen without buttons, and just like that, Nintendo somehow manages to make an even worse first impression than they did with the Wii U. So yes, I am reeeeaaaaaaalllly hoping these are fake, but if I'm honest, I'm thinking they're real.

On the other hand, if they are real, and Nintendo sees the backlash against such a dumb decision, maybe they'll add in physical buttons before launch. After all, the gamepad was shown off with circle pads before being given proper sticks.

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McGruber

I've said since the white dev unit was leaked that I thought this was real, and I still do. I've never seen a leak look more credible and real, especially for actual hardware. That makes me incredibly sad, especially looking at my New 3DS's beautiful colorful ABXY buttons. I just pray to god in heaven that the NX also has a Pro controller for at home gaming.

A couple things I'd like to note:

1. In the previous NX info leak on Duel Pixels it said "Developers have described to me more than once that it visually and functionally looks as if “Samsung and the Nintendo 2DS” had a baby, in that it looks friendly but unlike what most people visualize a Nintendo device to typically look"
That description matches these images.

2. If you look closely, you can see the shoulder wheels on the top of both of the leaked units.

3. Also if you look closely at the newest images, you can see it doesn't sit flush against the table. There are definitely Wii U gamepad-esque grips on the back. So people who say the leaked didn't take a pic of the back because there's nothing there are definitely wrong.

All this being said, I really HOPE it's fake, but nothing seen here screams fake or even something out of the realm of possibility. This is Nintendo we are talking about. We know they aren't going to just put out a console with a standard controller, and that there will be a gimmick. The lack of buttons is truly the one thing that saddens me.

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VelvetElvis

It appears that this is most definitely not the NX controller. The leaker himself has confirmed it's a fake:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4avdcg/codename_...

I assume the identical black version that was leaked later was from the same person, part of the same scheme or a copycat. We still have the Nintendo patent that the "leaker" based his fake on, but for now, we're back in that special kind of NX darkness.

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