Topic: I really don't understand the people who just seem to want the Wii U catalog on the Switch

I don't inherently disagree, but there are parts of that game that would need to be pretty heavily changed in order to make sense for a traditional control scheme. And considering its initial reviews, I don't think Nintendo would consider putting that much effort in for a port to be that worthwhile.

@YummyHappyPills
Not likely to happen, you're right on that.

Even though I have a Wii U and still love it for many hardware features that demonstrated both unique and super practical gameplay that the Switch disappointingly fails to have, cartridges instead of discs is what seals the deal for me (and also another reason but more of that later).

I would definately buy Smash Bros. Complete and Paper Mario Color Splash. I have Smash on Wii U but I never bought any Smash DLC, since I already spent too much gold on Smash amiibo, and I haven't got the 3DS version, so merging all of that into one package I would pay full price again.

Paper Mario CS is one of the last Wii U games, and I haven't played because the game was too late. I already had 300 Wii U games on my external hard drive by the time of its release and hit the limit. Wish Nintendo updated this and bring the cap to 600 games since I still have a huge 500GB left on my 1TB Wii U harddrive but I refused to download more games if the Wii U home menu can only handle 300.

I heard many people voting for Starfox Zero and Super Mario Maker. I have both of them on Wii U so I naturally rather have sequels than Wii U ports. They wouldn't fit on Switch anyway. Mario Maker would need to have a mode to combine one docked Switch with one undocked Switch, so nah. Too expensive for 1 player. Even for multiplayer games like Nintendo Land and Kirby and the Rainbow Curse the Wii U is much more practical and cheaper for multiscreen-needing games. Starfox Zero is what I deem an outright impossible Wii U game to port. They'd have to modify gameplay and level design heavily and turn it into a different game to make it work on Switch. Too much work, don't think it's worth it, it was specifically made with Wii U's unique features in mind in all of its gameplay and design. For Starfox and Mario Maker they better focus on sequels with Switch's features in mind.

@kkslider5552000
I didn't get to play very far into the game, in all honesty, so I'll take your word for it. Still, I'd like to see Star Fox get one more chance at a revival - now on a piece of hardware people give a damn about - and a remake of Zero on Switch would seem the most likely route to go.

Interesting. It seems like most people here agree that due to the Wii U's eventual failure it makes sense to bring a lot of the big name Wii U titles over to Switch.

I have to ask, so what about the Wii U games that were also brought over to 3DS?

I event want the ports that were made on the Wii U. As I only have portable consoles I would like to play those amazing games like Assassins Creed Black Flag on the Switch and the Batman Arkham series.
Just imagine having those games on a Cartridge ... AMAZING! Now I play only Skyrim on the Switch and I just can't get enough!
I have to continue with the Zelda soon too ;(

There are already so many old games that I love that I would be perfectly fine if I only had all of them on my Switch with no new games at all - for me. I want Nintendo and other third parties too to make new games mainly because I want the Switch to be succesful and to be appealing for everybody and I also can like new games of course but I don't strictly need new things. Plus I just didn't like the Wii U so I never really played it even if I have had it (I sold it to buy games on Switch) so most of its games are like new games for me.
For me, for the point I stand now as a gamer, new games are good, but old games are even better. Improved version of old games usually are the best thing unless they manage to ruin something in the process (for example I think the new Crash Bandicoot remakes of the original games don't capture the feeling the old graphics had. The old games had a more distinct look, the graphics were more similar to hand drawn cartoons and it was better imo)

To me there's a few key points, the one which applies to all games is of course play anywhere. The other main points are as follows:
1. Allowing other franchises to be prominent on Switch: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe existing allowed ARMS to be created, hopefully something similar happens with Smash.

2. Giving games a second chance to be more successful: Bayonetta 2 is a good example here, the franchise is more well known now thanks to Bayonetta winning the Smash ballot so naturally the Bayonetta 1+2 port should do much better than it did on Wii U.

3. Setting up for story based sequels: XCX really comes to mind here, chances are a sequel to XCX would not make much sense to someone who hasn't played XCX (think playing Mass Effect 3 before having played Mass Effect 1 and 2 for example) so it's of course very wise to have XCX on Switch so people can play it before a XCX2 releases.

If the games are so good why didn't everyone just get a Wii U then?

In my case, because by the time there were enough WiiU games that I really wanted to get, the console was already a massive failure and it was heavily rumored that Nintendo were going to put it out to pasture ASAP. So, rather than buying a console for a handful of games that I wanted, I started saving my shekels for the "NX". I still would like to play that handful of games, though.

I still have the Wii (the first, old Wii, not Wii U) with all my favourite games but by now I almost don't play them anymore, and when I do I use Dolphin to play them because, while still not as immediate and satisfying as the real thing was, is less frustrating than keeping an old device like the Wii plugged to the tv. I prefer Super Mario Galaxy than Super Mario Odyssey but now I play Odyssey when I want to play a Mario game because Galaxy is not available on Switch and it is just too bothersome both to use the real console and to use the emulator on the computer so even if I could play it I just don't. I would want it on Switch (and other Wii games too) so much! And those are games that I already have and I could play anytime I want, it is just too incoinvenient to do so now.

@Hitokage1 The spacing was really bad especially in the first year, a successful console needs good games and good spacing. The exception to that rule is the PS4 but that's only successful because of Microsoft's mistakes with the XB1 and a large quantity of gamers only play FIFA and CoD..

Because the WiiU console line was discontinued..2 months before the Switch's launch.

Nintendo doesn't owe Switch owners any Wii U ports. If you didn't buy a Wii U, you don't deserve most of these games. Simple as that. Tough luck. Maybe you shouldn't have let an irrational hatred for a piece of plastic get in the way of some incredible games? The Wii U is a great console, warts and all, I don't care how it sold.

Most major games have already been ported or are in the works. Nintendo WILL leverage their back catalog on Switch in some way, we just don't know how yet. Smash is a given. Kirby and Yoshi are coming. Games like Pikmin 3, SMM, SF0, and W101 would need significant changes to work on a single screen. In some games, like SMM, the experience would be so compromised, I doubt it's even worth doing. SMM and Pikmin 3 would be terrible on Switch.

I don't say Nintendo owe me those Wii U ports, but I was just saying that if it's out on Switch, I would snap them. I mean not everyone can just immediately drop $250 for a used Wii U (yeah, Wii U is being sold for that much over here, granted it has some extra stuff but still $250, and it's not counting that our pay can be on par of a console's price, so yeah)

I just find it's cheaper if I can get it on Switch, after all. No need for extra peripheral (Getting a TV or something), as well as that I love my Switch a lot already.

@SharkAttackU
I enjoyed Wii U from day one (or day 30, couldn't find one for a month). And during its lifespan I made many arguments for its merits. But in hindsight, the console wasn't that great, it was the games that were great. I liked the gamepad for certain games like Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. There was a time where I couldn't even imagine playing that series without a second screen. But 9 out of 10 games didn't use it well, or at all. The console was super slow and sluggish, it took forever to do anything, whether it was going to the eshop or the settings menu or even just booting the system up. It was an absolute slog to use.

And I don't think anyone here feels they "deserve" Wii U ports. And just because they skipped Wii U doesn't mean they had an irrational hatred. In many cases it wasn't hatred at all and it certainly wasn't irrational. Gamer83 sold his system because it legitimately disappointed. And while I would never sell mine I completely understand where he was coming from. And it wasn't just him, it was most people. You have to ask yourself, when you see Switch doing this well, and people are lapping it up... where is all that "irrational hatred" now? Maybe it was never irrational hatred, it was just a very unappealing system for a lot of people.

And Pikmin 3 would fit like a glove. There would be no significant changes needed. It could still use motion controls with the joycon and an analog control scheme. Heck, they could even keep the touch control scheme when in handheld mode. I think most people would just rather see Pikmin 4 though. Mario Maker would also be a perfect fit. All they have to do is let the analog or Dpad control the cursor. That's it. They could even keep the touch controls for handheld mode. W101 would need some reworking, but all they'd really need to do is drop the gamepad sections where you were doing two things at once, and have you use the analog to draw shapes. Which most people ended up doing on Wii U anyways.

@JaxonH I found that using the analog stick in W101 was completely unworkable, especially in hectic fights, and much easier to just draw the shapes on the gamepad. Sure, SMM could use the stick or dpad to control the cursor, but you did just mention slogs. That sounds awful and unintuitive to me, especially coming from the gamepad. SMM is a joy to use with the gamepad. It would be a clear downgrade. I just want Pikmin 4 at this point.

There are lots of topics across the internet where people assume that because the Wii U failed, that means every great game will be ported. There is definitely a heavy undercurrent of entitlement in all of these conversations. I just don't think that's going to happen. I'd be surprised if we get any more Wii U ports after the Bayonetta games. I don't see any more from Nintendo. Maybe DKTF. Maybe.

Load times on the Wii U certainly weren't ideal, but far from unacceptable. Hardly a reason the sell a system with great content. There's tons of irrational hatred for the Wii U on the internet, including this site. Where have you been?

Sorry if the Wii U wasnt appealing to some, but you don't get ports of every worthwhile game from said system. That's not how it works.

@JaxonH I found that using the analog stick in W101 was completely unworkable, especially in hectic fights, and much easier to just draw the shapes on the gamepad. Sure, SMM could use the stick or dpad to control the cursor, but you did just mention slogs. That sounds awful and unintuitive to me, especially coming from the gamepad. SMM is a joy to use with the gamepad. It would be a clear downgrade. I just want Pikmin 4 at this point.

There are lots of topics across the internet where people assume that because the Wii U failed, that means every great game will be ported. There is definitely a heavy undercurrent of entitlement in all of these conversations. I just don't think that's going to happen. I'd be surprised if we get any more Wii U ports after the Bayonetta games. I don't see any more from Nintendo. Maybe DKTF. Maybe.

Load times on the Wii U certainly weren't ideal, but far from unacceptable. Hardly a reason the sell a system with great content. There's tons of irrational hatred for the Wii U on the internet, including this site. Where have you been?

Sorry if the Wii U wasnt appealing to some, but you don't get ports of every worthwhile game from said system. That's not how it works.

@JaxonH I found that using the analog stick in W101 was completely unworkable, especially in hectic fights, and much easier to just draw the shapes on the gamepad. Sure, SMM could use the stick or dpad to control the cursor, but you did just mention slogs. That sounds awful and unintuitive to me, especially coming from the gamepad. SMM is a joy to use with the gamepad. It would be a clear downgrade. I just want Pikmin 4 at this point.

There are lots of topics across the internet where people assume that because the Wii U failed, that means every great game will be ported. There is definitely a heavy undercurrent of entitlement in all of these conversations. I just don't think that's going to happen. I'd be surprised if we get any more Wii U ports after the Bayonetta games. I don't see any more from Nintendo. Maybe DKTF. Maybe.

Load times on the Wii U certainly weren't ideal, but far from unacceptable. Hardly a reason the sell a system with great content. There's tons of irrational hatred for the Wii U on the internet, including this site. Where have you been?

Sorry if the Wii U wasnt appealing to some, but you don't get ports of every worthwhile game from said system. That's not how it works.

@SharkAttackU

Sorry if the Wii U wasnt appealing to some, but you don't get ports of every worthwhile game from said system. That's not how it works

I'm sensing a lot of spite toward gamers who skipped Wii U and are now enjoying the fresh fruits of its library on Switch.

I'm afraid that is how it works. The system failed and there's a rich catalog to pillage from to help slot in gaps for the Switch. I don't think we'll see every single game from that system ported but, we'll see a fair few.

And I played W101 using the analogs, as did most people and certainly the pro players. It was too clumsy to remove your right hand from the gamepad and then draw shapes on the screen while you held the controller with one hand. Once you mastered the moves with the analog you could do them so much faster. Soooo much faster. It was basically like learning moves in Street fighter. Once you learn how to perform the action correctly you can do it over and over and over repeatedly without even thinking about it.