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@JaxonH

I don't understand how you can evaluate the quality of something without taking into account the price though.
If I'm paying $5 for the whole DLC, I'm obviously going to expect and understand that they might reuse some of the assets from the main game, like they've done here. So I'll judge it relative to that expectation.
But if I'm paying $25, I'm pretty much expecting this to be all completely original material. Which is why I'm disappointed that it isn't. I don't see how you could divorce that from price.

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JaxonH

@Dezzy Quite easily, actually. How fun are they and how good are they compared to past ones (aka how close do they come to meeting my expectations of well designed maps).

See? Easy as 1-2-3. Neither depend on how much was paid.

I work in Quality. And the quality of the parts we make have nothing to do with price. That's a separate aspect. Quality, Cost, Delivery... all separate aspects. Now, theres nothing wrong with accounting for one or more simultaneously, but by no means is it a requirement. You can look at any individual aspect you want, and the quality of our parts is independent of price. Either they're free of defects and meet customer requirements or they don't, and that's always irrespective of cost.

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Grumblevolcano

Well to make the most of the expansion pass, it's not just beating the side story but to do a main game playthrough after having completed the side story as completing the side story unlocks main game stuff.

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alpacatears

I just completed the side story last night. I definitely did enjoy it even though it was a bit on the short side. I thought the mechanics of winning on each map were pretty varied and it definitely had more challenge than the main game and I had to be very liberal with my divine pules in the first one or two turns of some of the maps.
I was a tiny bit annoyed with your characters being so locked into specific classes but in hindsight, it got me thinking outside the box of my usual play style.

I'm also in the middle of a Golden Deer playthrough so it'll be interesting to see what additions to the main game that it brings to the table.
Overall I do think that I'm happy with my choice to buy the DLC. It gave me something to look forward to and it also got me back in the mood to start playing it again. I hope others have been enjoying it too

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Heavyarms55

I'm getting into the DLC and I have to say it's a lot harder than the main game. On normal I basically never had to retry a map more than once. And I am on like my 7th attempt on just the second chapter of the side story. Maybe I should actually use the divine pulse thing? I never used that in the main game and don't even know how it works to be honest.

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Dezzy

I haven't played any FE game on Normal difficulty for years. Most of them are a lot more fun on Hard.

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NotTelevision

I decided to take a break for a little bit. I’m on Chapter 18 or 19(Enbarr Infiltration) playing Black Eagles on Hard/Classic. There are so many strong enemy units that even when I managed to rush kill the Death Knight, the birds and armored infantry kill half my house. Plus there is (don’t want to include a spoiler) another strong Commander hanging out in the back and artillery spammers everywhere.

Any pointers on completing this map?

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Heavyarms55

I finished the side story last night. Gotta say I really enjoyed it. Each map is varied and interesting, so even though it's not terribly long, each mission feels different. I really like the new characters introduced and returning unit types - especially the Dark Flier? What was it call, the magic using Pegasus rider. Which even though I can't remember the name is one of my favorite unit types.

My only issues with it were the lack of new cinematics or music to go along with the side story. Also some of the voice acting choices for the antagonists. Several of the bandits just sounded like little kids, and there's a scene where Balthus, I'm pretty sure, is supposed to be really angry and sounds no more annoyed than if he dropped his fork at lunch...

Oh, and minor nitpick, the second battle of the side story is far harder than any other in the route, I don't really understand that. Maybe there was something I was missing, but it really kicked my butt.

Still, I had a lot of fun with it and consider it, with the other goodies from the DLC to be a pretty good deal.

Does anyone know if you have to beat the side story every time you start a new game, to have access to Abyss, or if once it's unlocked, it's unlocked?

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Dezzy

Damn this story really starts to get good around the timeskip part.

This game is insanely long though!

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Heavyarms55

@Dezzy You think so? I suppose if you intend to do all 4 routes and the side story it's very long. But only one route isn't anything unusual - then again, I favor RPGs and JRPGs so our opinion on what makes a long game might be different. lol

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Dezzy

@Heavyarms55

I looked it up on howlongtobeat.com and Three Houses is the longest FE game by quite a way. About 50 hours to finish a standard playthrough.
Most of the other games average around 35 hours.

It probably depends on how you play quite a lot though. If you choose to do a lot of the optional side-battles, it probably takes longer than if you do more exploring the monastery and doing the social stuff. I'm very much in that first camp. I do as many battles as possible, and ignore a lot of the social stuff.

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komodo182

@Dezzy The social "sims" stuff is what makes this a long game. I found trying to do all 4 paths got very repetitive.

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Dezzy

@komodo182

I find that part is a lot quicker. But that maybe is just because I don't enjoy it as much, so I often speed-read through a lot of interactions.

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Heavyarms55

@Dezzy You think 50 hours is long? Wow, for me that's below average for most games I play. I've got over 150 hours in FE3H so far. I played the Edelgard route first, and then started Golden Deer, stopped and waited for the DLC, then played the DLC and now I'm resuming the Golden Deer route. I still have Blue Lions and the Black Eagles Church route to play.

Most games I play tend to be RPGs or JRPGs or long running games like Cities Skylines, Civ 6 or Pokemon. 50+ hours is easily the norm for me.

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Dezzy

@Heavyarms55

Even most RPGs are probably less than 50 hours for the standard playthrough. Only a few have stories longer than that. Dragon Quest, Xenoblade, to name a few.

Most Final Fantasy games for example, are shorter than 50 hours for the standard campaign. Of course they often have a lot of side-content so you can extend that time if you're a completionist!

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Heavyarms55

It was something of a slog getting though part 1 again, I'll admit, but as soon as I got to the end of part one and started part 2 on my Golden Deer run, I feel like I've been massively pulled back into the game. Last night I stayed up later than normal playing it, and woke up and played it in the morning again before work.

On another note, I have to say, WOW, Marianne and Hilda got real cute post time skip.

Also, fighting against Edelgard is still so hard... Still my favorite character and I really wish there was a route where Edelgard and Claude teamed up to fight against Rhea and the Church, allied with Dimitri who I still really don't care for.

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Dezzy

So my opinion of this game has improved the more I've played. Whilst I still think there a few too many boring or ugly maps, pretty much everything else about the game does improve the more you play.

One thing that I really liked that I hadn't anticipated, is how the bigger maps combined with all the character battalions combines to create the real feeling of an epic battle, that you never really got in most of the older games, where everything feels like a small skirmish.

The only flaw with this is the fact that it then zooms back out to the standard individual characters on a grid view, which kinda breaks that feeling. I know they have the zoomed-in view, but that's just not as easy to strategise from so I don't tend to use it.

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Heavyarms55

So my Golden Deer run is a new game plus, thus I recruited almost every character. And I'm pretty obsessive about support conversations. As soon as I got into part two I had near 2 hours of nothing but support conversations waiting for me as a result. XD There was no need to push so many like I did.

Also the DLC characters: Constance, Yuri, Hapi and Balthus - their part two designs are really cool! Well, all but Balthus. Constance and Hapi especially like! Yuri kinda looks like a clown, but I think it suits him.

@Dezzy As much as I really do love this game, I absolutely agree that many of the maps are dull and there are too few.

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edhe

For anyone who's played the Black Eagles route, can anyone answer me this question?

Is the branch triggered by a dialogue choice OR something else, like a particular support level?

I played through the Blue Lion's route, and I intended to finish with the branched Black Eagles route, so I was hoping to play the Black Eagle's default route, then Golden Deer beforehand.

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@edhe To unlock the fourth route

  • Support Level C+ with Edelgard
  • Explore the monastary and talk to Edelgard during 2/8 thru 2/22. Pick the option to follow her.
  • After that month's mission, select option to side with Edelgard.

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