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RedderRugfish

Magician wrote:

Square-Enix appreciates the Switch well enough.

I think a western release of DQB2 is guaranteed.

Square Enix seems to appreciate the Switch, but they have always somewhat neglected western Dragon Quest fans. I wouldn't be surprised if we do get it, but my default gut feeling is "don't get your hopes up".

@redd214 Multiplayer is probably what I'm most excited for. It seemed like a sorely missed opportunity in the first.

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Magician

ReaderRagfish wrote:

Square Enix seems to appreciate the Switch, but they have always somewhat neglected western Dragon Quest fans.

I can't agree with that. Just last year I played through Dragon Quest VII and Dragon Quest VIII on 3DS. Dragon Quest IV through VI were on the DS. Dragon Quest IX was a DS exclusive was it not? Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 1 & 2 were localized in the west.

The only DQ game I feel I've missed out on is Dragon Quest X.

I'm still not sure why Square-Enix refuses to localize that game for the west. I know it's an MMO, and the volume of text that would need translating is massive. But there's no MMO currently available on the Switch in the west. And there's six years of content just sitting there, ready to be enjoyed by western gamers.

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Ryu_Niiyama

@Magician I think RR is referring to the length of time it takes for them to localize... which is often long even taking into account the massive amounts of text. Also there is the DQXI 3ds situation...which I get, but somebody is going to bring it up.

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RedderRugfish

@Magician Square Enix put out a few DS games and quickly gave up and left the localization/publishing of IX and onward to Nintendo. And we also never got most of the 3DS games, or the virtual console rereleases. Not to mention the long localization process.

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JaxonH

Demo is out, and holy crap does this game look good.

It feels like I’m playing my PS4. Which is pretty shocking in its own right for any game on the system to look that good, but what makes it even more shocking is the drastic difference between this game and the last one on Switch. All those pixelated jaggies are long gone. Super crisp and clean, handheld or docked it’s all the same. Absolutely gorgeous on the Switch.

I already know I like the game, because I liked the first one and this one adds all kinds of cool stuff that I’m on board with. My main curiosity was how the game looks and runs. And my goodness am I impressed.

What a difference it makes to develop a game for the system with a few years experience under the belt, and the motivation to make it high quality knowing games sell on Switch. If this and God Eater 3 (another wonderfully gorgeous, super crisp and high performing current gen surprise) is indeed indication of the rise in quality we’re going to see in the coming years for Switch releases, i’ll hardly be able to contain my excitement.

We see enough games release in a shabby state on Switch. Feels wonderful seeing games start releasing on Switch that look and feel like they could be on a PS4, yet still retaining that hybrid advantage.

People should really go check out the demo because man, it puts the original DQ Builders to shame.

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Dogorilla

Now that this game is out, is it still worth playing DQ Builders 1 first to experience its story etc, or is Builders 2 the kind of iterative sequel that makes the first game redundant? (I'm probably not going to get either game just yet but I'd like to have an idea of whether I should get both games or just the sequel.)

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Magician

Dogorilla wrote:

Now that this game is out, is it still worth playing DQ Builders 1 first to experience its story etc, or is Builders 2 the kind of iterative sequel that makes the first game redundant?

I believe you can just stick with DQB2. It has quality of life changes that would make going back to DQB1 difficult. Story wise? The DQ games really haven't strayed from the traditional. "There's a great evil that must be stopped, so go stop it." /story

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MetalKingShield

Dogorilla wrote:

Now that this game is out, is it still worth playing DQ Builders 1 first to experience its story etc, or is Builders 2 the kind of iterative sequel that makes the first game redundant? (I'm probably not going to get either game just yet but I'd like to have an idea of whether I should get both games or just the sequel.)

From what I've played so far, the original is actually the better game. Dragon Quest Builders 2 does fix one issue (the breakable weapons) but also adds in some problems that weren't in the first one, like an inferior camera. I haven't finished the first chapter yet, but definitely prefer the original game so far.

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Manah

I'm assuming the EU season pass bonus content will be availabe forever? Nintendo's page only lists the sunglasses, but unlike NA (where it was a preoder bonus apparently) our eShop lists all the stuff on the season pass page. Can't find anyone talking about the EU version anywhere.

I just started playing the first game a few days ago and breakable weapons are a bit of a problem in chapter 2 now, but my biggest issue are the stupid ghosts. Heard they don't spawn as much in the second.

JaxonH

What a wonderful game! Just started today because of God Eater 3 taking my time yesterday, but wow! This game really is excellent!

I love the improved visuals, and the snapshot mode with noticeboard was a great idea. The story has been charming so far, and just all-around it’s been an upgrade over the first one.

I can’t wait to get my sail and start cruising off the mountaintops. Just got my hammer, and I love it 😁

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toiletduck

I've only played the demo, but I found it rather slow. How's the pace in the full game? I'm afraid I get bored fast if I buy this.

toiletduck

JaxonH

Depends on your definition of slow.

The demo had the ship tutorial (which I found incredibly charming btw) so if you pick up where you left off, its straight to the story. And frankly, it gets right to it. It's a gradual buildup of learning mechanics, leveling up, learning new skills, but it didn't feel slow to me. Just normal progression.

Once on the island, it only takes about 15 min for you to have already built your first room with beds and made a campfire and cooked food to eat. Within another 15 min the story has progressed and sets up the plot which provides structure of the game. And then you're off to different islands.

I'd say it's very well placed, but I also play alot of RGPs.

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Buizel

@toiletduck I think the demo is quite slow, yes.

I wouldn't say the main game is any faster , but you have a lot more on your plate at any given time so it doesn't really feel "slow".

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MetalKingShield

toiletduck wrote:

I've only played the demo, but I found it rather slow. How's the pace in the full game? I'm afraid I get bored fast if I buy this.

It is slow, yes. I adored the original game, but am struggling to play this.

With slow loading times, a low framerate and a poor camera, it's really hard to recommend this at the moment. I'm also not keen on the general lack of neatness and order to the main game. It asks you to build too much (scarecrows in a field, for example) without clear boundaries as to your plot of land, and keeps throwing things at you that make you undo your work.

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Buizel

@MetalKingShield I'm not facing any of these issues, personally. Load times are irrelevant as they only happen when you boot up the game (and switch islands, I believe?) - 99% of play time is seemless open world. Camera is nowhere near as bad as people are making it out to be...the only fault I'm finding is that you can't control zoom. Framerate has been fine for me, but maybe that gets worse as your farm gets busier.

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Buizel

JaxonH

I agree. Load times are not an issue. It's less than a minute for initial load, then its seamless aside from sailing, and that's normal load time there.

No camera issues here, and you can change how close it zooms in. Hold R3 and move left analog. Problem solved.

Framerate might stutter a bit but it seems fine by and large. Nothing drastic.

And if this is slow, then most other RPGs move at the speed of litigation, because I spent hours in Xenoblade before that got rolling. I was building within 15 minutes in this game. So ya. Define slow.

And there's a big objective marker for placing the scarecrow. And the plot of land is defined by the nice, earthen toned ground, not the purple, spoiled ground, which is explained in the game. It's really pretty straightforward, tbh.

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Ryu_Niiyama

So I just put 24 hours into this over the weekend. I was supposed to be studying...what are you doing to me squeenix? I really enjoyed the first island. Not liking the second but I'm trying to plow though it. I really, really hate the localization for DQ games 8 and above, I was too cheap to buy the jpn copy and now I have to skip most of the dialogue. I'll rebuy it later.

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JaxonH

Man, I want the glider. But I keep poking around not getting much done, stocking up on cooked bread and cabbage. Fighting monsters and harvesting, etc. I need to go get more seeds, and I need to find some brambles so I can make my next weapon upgrade.

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gcunit

@Ryu_Niiyama What do you hate about the localizations?

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