Topic: DOOM

@MegaTen The key thing I took away from their statement is the DOOM look and feel, implying 60fps feel.

Im sure idSoftware would only do it if their vision was possible. Looking at stuff like Skyrim running comparably to PS4? Or the custom FIFA? Mario + Rabbids? Im sure custom Switch engines and wider used engines can get great results.

More so when using Vulkan

@MegaTen nice reverse art...
Im wondering if this is just reverse and itll have the ugly version with the download notice on that ugly side? 🤔

People gotta get off this 60fps kick. Game was smooth on consoles and it wasn't 60fps. It was 40-60fps. And if 40-50fps hopping all over the place plays so good it "feels" like 60 and people think it's 60, then a locked 30 that's stable won't be much different.

It's one of those things where people could play it and love it and will say it feels great, but tell them it's not 60 and suddenly they'll say it plays horribly

@JaxonH TotalBiscuit has been a perpetuator of this. Most of his videos say, and he even said it about BOTW, he hates, and thinks no one should play, games below 60fps.

@BLP_Software John Bain is an elitist tool —among many other things—, but that has little to do with the hit in quality Doom would take at 30fps.

DOOM is about fast-paced action.

It would be logical to try and achieve 50-60fps on this port.
That's what Nintendo would do in a game where speed is one of the essential factors of gameplay.

They could even implement customization options for graphic settings, a simpler version of what is available in most PC games.
You know, something like 1080p/30fps and 900p/60fps.

I just hope they find the right balance. Maybe they'll blow us away with what Vulkan is capable of doing with the very compatible Switch hardware.

But man, I still play and love Breath of the Wild and that one has 30fps.
So, even locking DOOM at 30fps wouldn't be a dealbreaker.

I really just want to play DOOM on Switch on the go with that music cranked up in the bus and the train and kill demons everywhere. Then, shortly after that, I hope I can repeat the same fun but with ripping apart nazis instead of demons.

Is id doing this port?

For me 60fps would be nice but not if it visually looks like a blur. Have to be realistic on what the switch can do.

If the only way to get it looking nice visually is 30fps then I will take that

What was the original DOOM (DOS version) FPS again? And I don't mean glDOOM......

This. Nobody wants to see 30 frames per second but we have to be realistic about it. And I do feel 30 frames per second needs to be defended because while yes, it is worse than 60 and while no, it's not what we actively want and hope for, it is still very much playable. It's not going to be that big of a deal for most people, and it's a very real possibility the game will need to run at 30 so let's hash this out now. Nobody is saying 30 is a better choice- what we are saying is that in the absence of hardware capable of producing a DOOM experience equivalent to X1/PS4, which is an unstable 60fp dropping to 50, 40 and in between... a stable, locked 30fps comes in a very close second place and is more than viable as an alternative.

30FPS seems so sluggish after playing 60FPS for so long

35fps.

Sorry to go back - just wanted to thank @MegaTen for sharing that video! Man, that took me back! The Golden Age of Gaming right there! ..my appetite is well and truly whet for the Switch version now! I love how faithful it seems to be to the original - just brought right up to date with some nice modern touches added too! Can't wait to return to Hell and get my gore on again all these years later!

Ya this video rocks. Takes me back to the Windows 95 era... loaves of bread with wings flying around on your screensaver

Oh I'm dead. Never beat the originals. (got sick playing doom 64...why am I doing this to myself?)

@Ryu_Niiyama you gonna get it?

@Samus7Killer Yeah I'm going to buy it. I rolled my eye at the original Doom reveal, but for some reason I feel like the ability to tackle it small chunks on a smaller screen means I won't wimp out.

It's silly really. I don't mind horror (don't care for it personally, but it doesn't bother me) but since this scared the daylights out of me as a kid, I still panic when playing doom 64 or seeing the enemies. If I'm in the Switch thread whining about having accidentally thrown my switch, you'll know what I was playing. Not going to play this docked though.

Would be so cool if they included the original Doom in the Switch version...

@Ryu_Niiyama Honestly, I've played through the game twice on PC, and I can't really recall any actual horror moments. The game's brutal and gruesome, but not quite scary.

The fact that you're basically a one-man-army in the game really makes it feel more 'Let's kick some ass!' than 'ohgodscarydemonsrunrunRUN!'.

Urgh.

Time to hop off the hype train, as Digital Foundry have confirmed that it’s going to be 30fps...

DOOM should have been prioritised to run at 60fps, even if the resolution and visuals takes a hefty hit. The silky smooth frame rate is one of the main reasons why the game is such a joy to play.