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Topic: Do we want Nintendo VR on NX?

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DjLewe78

For me the simple answer is a definite YES!
I certainly wouldn't get one at launch nor any of the systems VR, but if Nintendo doesn't appear to be working on it there's a big risk...
Just say VR does take off in a big a way. Playstation claims to have 200 developers working on up to 100 VR games. Now in my opinion that's evolving the gaming world in a big way and when somebody comes to choosing a console to buy it's DEFINITELY a contributing factor.
I know that people buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, but that number has clearly dropped and young people (the main buyers of consoles) are less aware of Zelda, Metroid etc, so if Nintendo doesn't compete there is a risk of falling way behind.
Now I know the virtual boy was blah blah blah so don't even bring that up.
But I for one have been watching VR unfold and I'd be lying if I said "I don't wanna strap on a VR helmet and fly about".
So should we hope, (no wait) EXPECT a similar experience from Nintendo?

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Shinion

Reggie already said they aren't interested in high-end tech and they won't be interested until it becomes a more affordable and enjoyable form of technology. Which I am more than OK with, I'm not even going to get PSVR for my PS4 because I do not get the hype. At all.

EDIT: and after re-reading your comment I would advise you not to eat up the hyperbole Sony's marketing team have fed you, I'm sure in 2011/12 it was all about how the Vita was going to dominate handheld gaming and how they have all their big studios making Vita exclusive games. Heck even the PS4 itself is just a fancier and more expensive PS3, and is inferior to a PC which can do most of the things the PS4 can better and a lot of key things it can't. Sony aren't innovators, and people aren't going to drop $500 on PSVR from the get-go, so Sony will have to be in this for the long run, which I don't see happening. I'd err on the side of caution for this if I was you.

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skywake

VR is at about the stage HD was in the early 2000s. It's experimental and isn't really ready for prime time. Though I'm happy for enthusiasts to be the guinea pigs for us. I honestly don't think it'll be anywhere near as big in the short term as people think it will be. The second and third generation VR products powered by graphics cards not yet released will be the VR setup you'll want. So I'd expect Nintendo to wait a bit and wouldn't be even the slightest bit annoyed about that.

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Tasuki

Sure cause a Nintendo system needs a gimmick that makes it hard for third party companies to make games for. Maybe they should included a tablet like device as the controller that you can waggle around.

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Shinion

@Tasuki: mabye they can sell another 100 million plus consoles alongside a handheld with a 'gimmick' that sold 150 million. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Maybe.

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DjLewe78

How is VR a gimmick?
It's something that's been worked on for years in different guises and it's at a stage now where some of the best electronic manufacturers in the world feel it's ready.
The people that have used it have been (for most parts) impressed, ney blown awaywith the results and it looks like it will have software to match. Hell the playstation VR will more than likely have more launch titles than the WII U
As a Nintendo fan and always have been I love the innovation that comes from game companies (especially nintendo) and why should I not appreciate VR.
I mean surley VR is just the ultimate in twin screen technology, I think we all know a company that's been behind that all way

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skywake

@DjLewe78:
I think you're jumping the gun a bit. These companies need to make money off their R&D, this stuff isn't going to be cheap. It's also unlikely to have anywhere near as much content as you think it will have. Certainly not content upto the standard required for a decent experience. I suspect a lot of the VR stuff on the PS4 will be better without VR.

That's not me talking it down or saying it's not significant. I'm just being realistic here. This product category isn't even on the shelves yet and it's a very, very high end and niche product. It's a display that you'd want to get get in addition to a standard LCD. It's a display that at this stage is only used for games. Worse, it only works for a small subset of games the vast majority of which also work with a standard screen. It's going to be a long while before it gains the sort of traction for non-support to be a negative

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Tasuki

@DjLewe78: The same way motion control is a gimmick. Remember how crazy people went for motion controls and where are we now with motion controls? The PS Move is dead same with Kinect heck Microsoft even has or will have an update to remove motion control to navigate the Xbox One menus.

VR is going to be a niche thing just like motion controls. Yeah it will be big at first but then it will die especially if software companies find it too hard or expensive to create games for it. If it's not profitable, they won't make software for it either.

The best bet with VR helmets is to treat it as an accessory to existing systems kinda like a steering wheel for racing games or an Arcade stick for fighting games. Put an option into already existing games to use a VR helmet kinda like remote play. That way it's not dependent on certain software to succeed.

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Shinion

Since no one else has done so so far, I would recommend Jim Sterling's recent Jimquisition on this matter titled 'VR troopers'. It's interesting to see his thoughts all-but proven here, as we have both sides of it already, over-enthusiastic supporters as well as the 'gimmick' crew convinced it is dead already. What's wrong with the wait and see approach? I agree with the guy with the Mario Kart Bowser avatar 100%, it's far, far too early to draw conclusions. VR is neither a success or a dead gimmick at this point, and anyone supporting those sides needs to re-evaluate their stance IMO.

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DjLewe78

I'm not so sure about the niche product thing.
How may I pads do apple sell at £400 a time even though people already have smaller I pads (I phones) in there pockets.
It's not a necessity at all but for the experience normal working people with an interest in gaming won't find it too expensive.

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Sisilly_G

I would love a VR experience handled by Nintendo, but I think it's much too premature. The technology is still in its infancy and developers have very little experience with it. Until I can play GTA in VR, it's "not there yet".

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Therad

I can't wait until I sit in my couch with my family and don't have to interact with them at all! (unless I accidentally smack them or something)

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On a more serious note, I don't think it will take off. If you have trouble convincing people to buy 3d-TVs, why would the same consumers rather want an even more expensive setup taht is also more inconvenient than a pair of 3d-glasses?

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crimsontadpoles

The NX seems too early to be largely dominated by VR. The technology is improving, but it's not big and cheap enough yet to become mainstream. Still, I hope Nintendo at least has some people thinking about a VirtualBoy2 future VR device.

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DjLewe78

@Thread The problem with 3D tvs is that after you have sHown off the demo to your friends it becomes apparent that actually it's not that good. I have never stuck on a pair of 3D glasses and thought "wow I'm so imursed in this film, it's like I'm there "
However virtual reality is just that, it's also a great training tool for various industry's, you can be anywhere in the world in full 360 degrees.
Also VR is well over 20 years old (maybe more ! Does anyone remember the film lawnmower man? That was based on technology around at the time.) I believe this generation of VR devices are ready for consumers and I understand everyone being sceptical. But nothing like this has ever been sold before and I for one think within a year they will be selling like hotcakes!

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DjLewe78

Also and this is a big maybe, if the NX controller has the screen all over it like in the pictures doing the rounds Nintendo could just make a VR head mount the controller sits in. Just like the Samsung VR GEAR. Then they would be cheaperror than everyone else!

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Therad

DjLewe78 wrote:

Also and this is a big maybe, if the NX controller has the screen all over it like in the pictures doing the rounds Nintendo could just make a VR head mount the controller sits in. Just like the Samsung VR GEAR. Then they would be cheaperror than everyone else!

That controller has 2 analog sticks sticking out of it. Wouldn't make a very good headpiece.

While it would get you more immersed in games, it is basically the only consumer-application it will be used in. And I don't think that many console gamers would buy it quite frankly, at least not how consoles are setup today (i.e in the living room with a screen). It will have some life for enthusiast pc gamers of course, but it won't be a mass-market product in the foreseeable future. Definitely not in time of the NX.

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Megas75

VR still has to prove itself, on top of that not everyone is into VR and from the looks of it seems absolutely expensive that I could see it possibly falling into irrelevancy shortly after launch

Personal opinion: If Nintendo wants to do it fine(though it doesn't look like they want to anytime soon) but if they decide they don't want to do it then to me it's no loss

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