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DonkeyDiddyKong

Another video but it looks a bit more janky in this one compared to the buttery smooth looking above.

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FragRed

@DonkeyDiddyKong All these glitches and bugs etc will be ironed out prior to release, Blizzard are the good sized of Activision

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Mountain_Man

FaeKnight wrote:

Mountain_Man wrote:

I think my least favorite is the Crusader and Barbarian. Interesting story about the Crusader, I once created a build that was indestructible. He could stand in the middle of an elite pack and regenerate health faster than the enemies could damage him. Even act bosses couldn't put a dent in him. Unfortunately, his damage output was so low that he would take forever to kill things. It took a lot of rejiggering of skills and gear to get a decent DPS character, but then he was a lot more vulnerable as a result.

That is, of course, the trade off. You can have incredible damage, insane tanking capability, or crazy utility. Pick two. If you optimize for utility, damage and defense go down. If you optimize for defense then damage and utility go down but you'll survive nearly anything. If you optimize for damage then most enemies will drop in seconds, but anything tough enough to withstand the alpha strike can and probably will kill you. Going for a mix of 2 gets you decent levels of the two you picked. Trying for all three means no one aspect is particularly good.

I've made Witch Doctor builds that can kill everything on screen in seconds but could die from a single hit. Great for rift runs but took a lot of concentration to keep space between him and his foes.

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Mountain_Man

FaeKnight wrote:

bilboa wrote:

FaeKnight wrote:

Watching the trailer, one thing I didn't see was them using a single joy con for a controller. So for local multiplayer you'll need multiple sets of them?

I have the Xbox 360 version, and the control mappings use all the controls: both sticks, d-pad, all buttons and both sets of triggers. Even that's a compromise compared to the PC version where you have the whole keyboard for shortcuts. I think it would be very awkward trying to make the game playable with a single joycon. Even Nintendo's own Breath of the Wild didn't try to do that.

At the same time, Hyrule Warriors uses every button and both sticks. Yet it manages to have a 2 player mode using single joy cons. It wouldn't be that hard to have the SL and SR buttons be used to modify which ability tray the face buttons (ABXY) are used for. Considering the X-box version only allows 6 powers (and health/mana potions) for any given setup it wouln't be that difficult.

Yep, I was thinking of Hyrule Warriors, too. If the shoulder buttons were used as shift keys instead of direct commands then a single Joy-Con would offer more than enough flexibility for Diablo 3.

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BestBuy needs to hurry up and get this game listed so I can preorder!

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FragRed

@Zuljaras That is an odd thing to say as I doubt the build they are playing is from a cartridge. So how do they know that this is all going to be on the cartridge to begin with and not a download?

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Mountain_Man

Looks like single Joy-Con control is confirmed:

There was also the option to play the same section, docked, in single-player - which we did with both a Pro Controller and a single Joy-Con.

[...]

You do still have all of the same actions available to you, Blizzard emphasised, they've just been optimised for the platform and this configuration specifically. "Adapting to using the single Joy-Con was an iteration on the buttons, but they're still all there," a developer confirmed.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-08-20-hands-on-with-d...

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EvilLucario

That's insane. I wonder how that would work.

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Mountain_Man

EvilLucario wrote:

That's insane. I wonder how that would work.

There are a number of ways you can achieve this. One is to do like Hyrule Warriors where the right shoulder button acts as a shift key to modify the face buttons. Another is to differentiate between quick taps and holding a button down

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Mountain_Man

So no official confirmation or direct quote from a Blizzard rep, but this is certainly promising.

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bilboa

Mountain_Man wrote:

Looks like single Joy-Con control is confirmed:

There was also the option to play the same section, docked, in single-player - which we did with both a Pro Controller and a single Joy-Con.

[...]

You do still have all of the same actions available to you, Blizzard emphasised, they've just been optimised for the platform and this configuration specifically. "Adapting to using the single Joy-Con was an iteration on the buttons, but they're still all there," a developer confirmed.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-08-20-hands-on-with-d...

Interesting. The other part of that quote though is:

The only concern is that it doesn't feel all that comfortable to play on a single Joy-Con - potentially an issue if players are hoping to play on the same console at the same time. It's responsive and serviceable, but the lack of a second thumbstick in particular doesn't really feel like the optimal or most comfortable way of doing things - and that's from someone with tiny hands.

So it sounds like a sub-optimal way to play the game. But glad the option is there.

bilboa

Mountain_Man

bilboa wrote:

Interesting. The other part of that quote though is:

The only concern is that it doesn't feel all that comfortable to play on a single Joy-Con - potentially an issue if players are hoping to play on the same console at the same time. It's responsive and serviceable, but the lack of a second thumbstick in particular doesn't really feel like the optimal or most comfortable way of doing things - and that's from someone with tiny hands.

So it sounds like a sub-optimal way to play the game. But glad the option is there.

Eh, that's just a general criticism about how the Joy-Cons can be uncomfortable when held horizontally. I have large hands and have not found it to be a problem. The trick is to not try and grip the Joy-Con like you would a typical controller but to hold it more loosely. It shouldn't be a problem.

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ReaderRagfish

Joy!

Still waiting for Atlus to make Snowboard Kids 3

rallydefault

Everything being on the cart is no surprise. Blizz does stuff right.

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