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Qwertyninty

I would love to be wrong. I personally have no trust in third parties. They will easily abandoned the switch or give the games no one wants. Again hope I'm wrong we will see.

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IceClimbers

NBA 2K18 was #1 on the US eShop charts for a couple weeks for what it's worth. It only just left the chart, and now that it's been patched it should continue to do decently.

I fully expect DOOM and Skyrim to do well.

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faint

I 💯 percent disagree. I think it's far more important for every square game on the switch to sell well. I feel the same way about doom and wolfenstien.

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Felly

Fifa isn't that big of a deal considering a new version releases every year however this is the most significant fifa release for a handheld to date. I'm quite happy with the switch version though, feels like a full fledged fifa game to me. I don't think the sales are that important for the future of third party support however.

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Krull

Couldn't give two hoops about a basketball game, but Fifa has reviewed pretty well for the Switch, and is likely to have a fairly long tail. If your average European boy gets a Switch for Christmas, the first three games are likely to be Odyssey, Mario Kart and Fifa. (Not sure about your average European girl, as there's is usually a male weighting on football games.) Admittedly, anyone who also has a Playbox is likely to prefer the full-fat version over the Switch port. But this is Fifa - provided EA sees a profit in it, it will get iteration upon iteration. I'm tempted to wait for Fifa 19. And if it doesn't come, then Fifa 18 will probably be at a lower price by then.

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kobashi100

FIFA world cup game will be before FIFA 19. That will tell us more about the future of FIFA on switch

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SLIGEACH_EIRE

2018 FIFA World Cup Russia will most likely be out in April of next year, which means EA have to decide fairly soon whether or not the Switch will get it. I don't think it would take much effort to do so. But if that bombs as well, that could be curtains for FIFA and possibly EA on Switch. Going by the last WC game, the announcement will be made in February.

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kobashi100

I not really sure about this if one game doesn't do great that means no more support. It's silly and not a true measurement.

LA Noire for example could bomb. That doesn't mean switch owners wouldn't buy GTA or red dead. It just means people didn't want LA Noire.

It's the same with games doing well. SFII selling over 500,000 doesn't mean Marvel vs Capcom: infinite wouldn't bomb on switch like it has on other consoles.

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JasmineDragon

@Krull This is almost exactly what I was going to say, and the same thing goes for NBA in the US. I have a hard time believing anybody thought these games would be top sellers on the Switch, but their sales should be solid throughout the year thanks to their mainstream appeal.

I think the real test for the Switch will be seeing how Skyrim, Doom and Wolfenstein sell. If those games do well, developers will be tripping over eachother trying to get their own games on Switch. If they fail, we might not go right back in the WiiU zone, but it will definitely have a negative effect.

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SMODomite

The two games you mentioned weren't even on my radar, honestly those are games if I was interested I would probably rather play on my PS4. So far the game I was most excited for other than BOTW is Odyssey which will be out in a couple weeks.

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Inertiacreep

JasmineDragon wrote:

I think the real test for the Switch will be seeing how Skyrim, Doom and Wolfenstein sell. If those games do well, developers will be tripping over eachother trying to get their own games on Switch. If they fail, we might not go right back in the WiiU zone, but it will definitely have a negative effect.

They better sell, all these trash ass indie games everybody hyping up and buying.

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Grumblevolcano

@JasmineDragon Yeah, if Bethesda's effort pays off others will follow but if not then others will be more likely to think Bethesda's effort was an unnecessary risk.

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rallydefault

SLIGEACH_EIRE wrote:

2018 FIFA World Cup Russia will most likely be out in April of next year, which means EA have to decide fairly soon whether or not the Switch will get it. I don't think it would take much effort to do so. But if that bombs as well, that could be curtains for FIFA and possibly EA on Switch. Going by the last WC game, the announcement will be made in February.

That's such a sensationalized load of bull, though.

Even if this FIFA turns out poor sales numbers (and it very well might, yes) and they don't do another one, if Switch goes on to sell 20 mil or anywhere close to 20 mil in or around its first year, there's no way EA is turning their back on that. It would be willfully ignoring an untapped market of tens of millions of potential gamers - their investors would eat them alive. Higher-ups would lose their jobs. It would be insanity on a level we haven't quite seen.

I mean, seriously: imagine, 2 years from now, Switch has something like 30+ million units out there, and a company like EA REFUSES to publish on it because FIFA 17 didn't quite pan out the way they wanted? ....

Yea, that wouldn't happen. That's not how companies work.

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Qwertyninty

@rallydefault publishing and publishing crap is two different things. See EA output on the 100 million+ selling Wii. Ea play remember those sports titles. I believe they published boom Blox also. The point is it would be easy for publisher to take a "casual" stance with their support. Again time will tell and we will see how these games sell... and publishers response to those sells.

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FX102A

Whilst important I would hardly call it critical. The success of the Switch, and in similar ways the failure of the Wii U, is partly due to its uniqueness when compared over other gaming platforms and having features that people are interested in (i.e. Portability over asymmetric gaming with 2 screens). Whilst having success with some of the upcoming 3rd party releases will help, believe the Switch can survive with such titles being only moderate successes; or enough to turn a bit of a profit.

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SLIGEACH_EIRE

@rallydefault 20 million Switch's sold in its first year. lol Now that's "a sensationalised load of bull". Not happening. I know you said "if" but it's still not happening.

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rallydefault

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Hrm...you also seemed to miss the "anywhere close" phrase I put in there.

You think it won't happen? End of July, Switch had sold 5.4 million worldwide. That was in the span of 4 months, non-holiday, with stock limitations.

We haven't received an update since then, but in a couple weeks it will have been 3 months since we last got a solid number. Stock limitations are now gone for the most part, and holiday season is approaching along with Odyssey. Also, they consider "first year" as March-March, not March-January.

You think 20 mil is not feasible. I'll bet you this: IF sales stay on this track and bump during the holidays, Nintendo will have sold almost 15 mil by the end of December. Then about 3 more months until the first year closes. 20 mil vicinity is NOT unreasonable IF sales stay like they've been. If the thing takes a nosedive for whatever reason, then yea, not gonna happen.

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Agreed. He didn't make that distinction, though. He wrote, "But if that bombs as well, that could be curtains for FIFA and possibly EA on Switch."

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Grumblevolcano

@rallydefault I don't think Switch will reach 20 million in a year because of stock issues. Trying to find a Switch anytime soon after Mario Odyssey launch is probably going to be very difficult.

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euant

I think we'll have a much better idea of sales numbers after the Thanksgiving/Christmas holiday season. Remember the Switch came out this year, and hasn't yet been available during a holiday season when both hardware and software do best sales figure wise. I bet that we'll see even more sales of both Switch hardware and games as people snap them up as presents for others.

I also bet both Skyrim and LA Noire do well on the third party front, and obviously Odyssey is going to sell gangbusters.

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SLIGEACH_EIRE

I think the Switch has sold to the hardcore fans so far. It's not sold out everywhere anymore. Maybe in some places. And let's see Nintendo sell the Switch to the casuals for €330 with no game plus all the hidden extras. I don't hear any buzz at all. Yes, it's sold well so far but in terms of hype like the Wii, there's none. Communities like this and others I frequent are living in a bubble. Out there in the real world, I hear nothing.

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