@mav-i-am Hmmm, you put a compelling case, sir! I agree that Fire Emblem can't compete with those numbers, and its sales won't rival those of the action games. If it hits 1m+ on Switch, it will have done well. It'll be around the ARMS level, most likely.
I guess it depends on your definition of system sellers - I was going on the assumption that they are games for which people will buy the system, not the games that sell most copies on a particular system. I'd still argue there are plenty of people who would buy a Switch just for the new Fire Emblem - though obviously not as many as would buy it for Zelda, Mario or Mario Kart. And there is always overlap. But strategy gamers can be a very hardcore bunch, and there's arguably less overlap with them than there might be with, for example, Mario Kart and Smash fans.
I'd also argue Fire Emblem has had a relatively late flowering. The fact that 2 million people downloaded Fire Emblem Heroes, the mobile app, on its first day alone suggests there is a big market out there.
I know this is a 2018 thread, but anyone else think Nintendo is holding back a surprise December 2017 game?
With BotW, MK8D, Splatoon 2, FIFA, Odyssey, it's a great first 6 months, but given that the Wii U had a couple of low key Decembers, I can't help feeling Nintendo will want to dominate Christmas sales with a big game launching. XC2 won't be that game, whether it releases this year or not. Neither will Skyrim.
I know this is a 2018 thread, but anyone else think Nintendo is holding back a surprise December 2017 game?
With BotW, MK8D, Splatoon 2, FIFA, Odyssey, it's a great first 6 months, but given that the Wii U had a couple of low key Decembers, I can't help feeling Nintendo will want to dominate Christmas sales with a big game launching. XC2 won't be that game, whether it releases this year or not. Neither will Skyrim.
Not me. My assumption is that Super Mario Odyssey will be the game that Nintendo will be pushing hard in December. Of course, being Nintendo, it's hard to predict what they'll do.
@crimsontadpoles That's what I thought too until they said Odyssey was releasing in October. Just feels a few weeks too early to provide that Christmas 'smash' effect, but I'm the sort of person that doesn't think about Christmas until the week leading up to it.
And while Odyssey will be a big hit, having an alternative 'big hit' to offer as well would be even better.
Reggie gave a post-E3 interview to Waypoint (?) a few days ago with where he said...
"Our focus is on games that are largely going to be available between now and the end of the holiday season.
And when you look at that lineup, there's a strong game coming literally every month, starting tomorrow with ARMS, and then Splatoon 2, then in August is the Mario + Rabbids game, September, October with Super Mario Odyssey.
We've got that great pace of content, and I can tell you there's more to be announced."
Notice how he stops at October..?
...he was later directly asked about a possible Smash port and said:
"What I would say is this: the observation you have that, given the install base of Wii U, there was some fantastic content that consumers did not get to play.
"So that creates certainly a business opportunity. On the other hand, one of the things that we've discussed internally is, there really needs to be an additional element to that game to make it fresh, and to further compel the consumer to buy in."
I wouldn't want to read too much in to these comments but, as many of the above comments have eluded to, a 'Smash Deluxe' would seem to tick a lot of boxes...maybe it's one of those unannounced games he hinted at? ..maybe they felt they'd give ARMS the spotlight at E3, confident that an enhanced Smash port wouldn't need a big build-up in order to sell units? ...and there does seem to be room for a game in that post-Mario/pre-Christmas period - can anyone else hear the faint rumblings of a hype-train coming?!
If they were going to do a Smash port this year, they'd have announced it at E3. We might see one next year, but this year seems to be off the table at this point.
@mav-i-am Hmmm, you put a compelling case, sir! I agree that Fire Emblem can't compete with those numbers, and its sales won't rival those of the action games. If it hits 1m+ on Switch, it will have done well. It'll be around the ARMS level, most likely.
I guess it depends on your definition of system sellers - I was going on the assumption that they are games for which people will buy the system, not the games that sell most copies on a particular system. I'd still argue there are plenty of people who would buy a Switch just for the new Fire Emblem - though obviously not as many as would buy it for Zelda, Mario or Mario Kart. And there is always overlap. But strategy gamers can be a very hardcore bunch, and there's arguably less overlap with them than there might be with, for example, Mario Kart and Smash fans.
I'd also argue Fire Emblem has had a relatively late flowering. The fact that 2 million people downloaded Fire Emblem Heroes, the mobile app, on its first day alone suggests there is a big market out there.
tl;dr? Sorry...
I agree numbers do not say if a game is a system seller, but anything else is just opinion, even sales when a game is released is a reflection of the accumulation of games available.
It looks like FE is on it's way up, but right now I would put it as a tier two game (again opinion!) I am hoping that it and Splatoon both take a step up to SS status!
Switch games list,
Legend of Zelda BotW, Human resource machine, NBA Playgrounds, Street Fighter 2, Super Bomberman R, Snipperclips, Overcooked, World of Goo.
@KirbyTheVampire USFII, Arms, Pokken, Smash. that would be FOUR fighters in 6 months. With DBZ rumored as well. Plus all the Hamster ACA Neo Geo fighters.
Doe Smash even sell that well outside the Nintendo faithful that probably already bought it on 3DS and/or WiiU (excluding Brawl)?
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