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skywake

shaneoh wrote:

LetsGoRetro wrote:

@shaneoh:
Very unlikely the NX is a handheld. You maybe thinking of the hybrid system that is rumored, which is likely.

I won't bring skywake into this, but he can tell you why the hybrid system is unlikely, however I get the feeling that he would be banging his head against a brick wall, much like every other time he has said it won't work. A handheld is just as likely as a console. 3DS hardware sales for the past 2 quarters weren't significantly better than Wii U hardware sales, they will want a replacement handheld soon and there is nothing to say that the NX isn't it.

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Octane:

1- The Wii U userbase is largely made up of the die hard Nintendo fans like us that buy what they make automatically. They know this. They've stated that Wii U owners are their loyal core. (What's left of us) Do you think they're more worried about "losing" us, or chasing the millions they've already lost to get them back? They're after that "blue ocean", the 90 million or so that bought Wii but not Wii U.

2- Even if you were right and point number 1 of mine is completely wrong, WHY do you people keep saying this?? "They're going to piss off Wii U owners by dropping support blah blah" Next year will be 4 years since the console launched!!! So, they keep supporting it for a year after NX is released with whatever is already in the works (The WiiU only gets a game a month if it's lucky, for it's entire freaking lifespan) and then they reach the 5 years. Nintendo consoles always average 5 years! Why do you people keep acting like "they're dropping support". You bring up Sega. Sega did things like release 3 new pieces of hardware to attach to your current hardware, and release a new console a year or 2 after one came out. By the time Holiday 2016 hits (NX's presumed release date) it will have been plenty of time the Wii U was out. The Sega analogy so bad. I'm sorry, it just is.

3) Look at that list. It's all stuff that's just about done, minus, of course, Zelda. Octane- Seriously. What is coming in 2016 that you know about that you're excited for? See that list you just posted for me? We knew about that in 2014, a whole year ahead of time. I remember because I made a post on here excited that Wii U's game release schedule was picking up. Why don't we know about what's coming in 2016? What do we know? SMT x Fire Emblem? Cool, but not Nintendo developed, right? Plus, we've known about it, for what, 3 years?

WHAT THE HECK IS NINTENDO WORKING ON? TOP SECRET WII U PROJECTS?

No, of course not, man! The secrets are cuz it' NX, not Wii U! It's common sense, really!

1. The ''Blue Ocean'' demographic, a.k.a. the casuals, isn't coming back. They're satisfied with their free mobile games. The Wii (or the 7th generation as a whole for that matter) was a one time wonder. That isn't going to happen again. The problem is that those ''die hard Nintendo fans'' seems to be an ever decreasing audience, I really wonder how many Wii U users would get a new Nintendo home console at launch if they released one next year.

2. Decent point, but only if they support the Wii U for another year (or two). If they're going to move all of their bigger project to their next home console, I'd hardly call that another year for the Wii U.

3. About the NOA schedule, 3-6 months delay is still a delay.

The 2016 list? I didn't want to start making assumptions, but there's plenty of time left for Nintendo to announce more games. We know that Pikmin 4 is close to completion. Twilight Princess HD is apparantly a thing. And Project Guard and Giant Robot are also still in development. And who knows what new games they have in store for us. Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense. I've said that many times already. Because we don't know a whole lot about their 2016 line-up, doesn't mean it's not there.

I'm not saying this because I think that Nintendo will support the Wii U for another 3 years or whatever, but because we do not know anything at all when it comes to the NX and anything past early 2016. I'm just presenting a completely opposite view that is also possible. People are so focussed on the NX, what it is and what it's going to do and forget that nothing is set in stone yet. Just keep in mind that every assumption you make could very well the complete opposite of what's going to happen.

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Tiefseemiez

One reason to delay it probably also is that Zelda's anniversary is next year. As with Mario's anniversary this year they probably didn't prepare anything special, but just released a game that was special enough and that they were working on anyway.
With Star Fox Zero they probably reacted to the backlash at E3 to better meet expectations of fans.
I would not conspirate too much about this. Sure they are working on NX games already, but Wii U will still get a good bunch of releases. And even if Zelda U releases on that system we know nothing about additionally to Wii U (they wouldn't dare not releasing it on Wii U at all), who cares? It doesn't make it bad, just because it isn't exclusive.
Anyway: As in kind of every presentation of Nintendo's plan was visible: Wii U and 3DS are still parts of the Nintendo network of products. Additionally to NX and smartphones/tablets and QoL. So they will support both of them at least another year. If it is really true that NX doesn't really replace the current generation, then even longer.

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TuVictus

Surprisingly, I agree with alot of what you say, Retro. Though Miyamoto did seem adamant that Zelda U would come to Wii U. Then again, they were adamant about it and StarFox coming in 2015.

I think the likely scenario is a dual-release. Maybe exactly the same as Twilight Princess' situation. And yeah, Nintendo doesn't really care about "pissing off their loyal fans" because most of the people that bought the Wii U, people like us, are gonna buy the next thing they release, even if it was released tomorrow with no games. They really aren't gonna lose many fans.

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Kaze_Memaryu

@LetsGoRetro Okay, I was wrong about the WiiU-exclusive part, but these interviews both make it very clear that a WiiU release will happen.
Moreover, an entirely new Zelda title for NX and a remake of an older title is more realistic, since the whole "Definitive Edition" nonsense isn't exactly their thing. Twilight Princess was the only exception, and was an easier affair since the graphical output of the GameCube and Wii were very similar, plus the whole WiiMote rage made it a reasible idea - and it was a dual release, which would be impossible for the new Zelda title due to the NX not being intended for release before 2017, not to speak of the dire consequences if they were to leave the WiiU as the very first console in their lifetime to not have its own Zelda title to speak of.
Besides, Nintendo hasn't really given us anything to work with on the NX so far, so anything is nothing but baseless speculation. Which is pointless.

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Octane

@Operative: There is a difference between asking people to be patient and wait a little longer and asking people to fork out another $300/400 for a new system to play the game on.

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Grumblevolcano

@Kaze_Memaryu: There's no evidence suggesting the NX isn't coming out in 2016.

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DefHalan

@Grumblevolcano: There is no evidence suggesting the NX is coming out in 2016 or that it would be powerful enough to run Zelda Wii U.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Eel

There's a Zelda WiiU thread that's itching for some real discussions, and you start a new one instead.

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Kaze_Memaryu

@Grumblevolcano No, but it was made clear that even the actual reveal of the console won't happen until 2016, and that's mostly to gauge interest and use public reaction to convince developers of the platform. The 2017 release is the most likely course of action to get the last out of the WiiU with Zelda, StarFox, and several other titles we might not even know anything about - BUT, that too, is just baseless speculation.

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TuVictus

@Octane: And there's a difference between what you just said and what will likely happen: a dual release.

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lol @ people still thinking Zelda U is going to NX.

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Blast

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lol @ people still thinking Zelda U is going to NX.

Lmao. I know, right? Most Wii U owners I know want Zelda U to say exclusive to Wii U. Let the Wii U have its own Zelda game... at least for a good while. Let the Wii U have its pride.

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The Legend of Zelda U is coming out for Wii U, bro.

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rallydefault

Blast wrote:

Megumi wrote:

lol @ people still thinking Zelda U is going to NX.

Lmao. I know, right? Most Wii U owners I know want Zelda U to say exclusive to Wii U. Let the Wii U have its own Zelda game... at least for a good while. Let the Wii U have its pride.

Ah, ignorance. Sweet, pure, blissful ignorance.

And we can't wait to laugh at YOU people.

The next home console Zelda game will come to the Wii U, for sure. No arguing that. But, you'd have to be pretty dense to not see the signs that it's also going to be on the NX. I mean, just go back and re-watch the Zelda portion of yesterday's Direct. They're being VERY CAREFUL about the language they're using when referring to the game.

Reggie: "In fact, some data saved to the Wolf Link Amiibo in Twilight Princess HD will be carried over to the new Zelda game on Wii U."
"We're working hard on the new Zelda game for Wii U."

Interesting, aye? Notice the "Wii U" heavy rhetoric to assuage doubts about the game coming to the system. But also notice how it's necessary for them to distinguish the Wii U version of the game. Reminds me a lot of when they talk about dual releases on Wii U/3DS where they specifically mention the game title and the system it is for to clarify. Ex: Smash Brothers for the 3DS or Smash Brothers for the Wii U. They are always meticulous with that language.

"Bah!" You say, "That's rubbish! If there was another version, they'd just come out with it already!" Nope. No, they wouldn't. Especially if said version is for a system they're being VERY adamant about not revealing information for yet.

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Octane

rallydefault wrote:

Ah, ignorance. Sweet, pure, blissful ignorance.

And we can't wait to laugh at YOU people.

The next home console Zelda game will come to the Wii U, for sure. No arguing that. But, you'd have to be pretty dense to not see the signs that it's also going to be on the NX. I mean, just go back and re-watch the Zelda portion of yesterday's Direct. They're being VERY CAREFUL about the language they're using when referring to the game.

Reggie: "In fact, some data saved to the Wolf Link Amiibo in Twilight Princess HD will be carried over to the new Zelda game on Wii U."
"We're working hard on the new Zelda game for Wii U."

Interesting, aye? Notice the "Wii U" heavy rhetoric to assuage doubts about the game coming to the system. But also notice how it's necessary for them to distinguish the Wii U version of the game. Reminds me a lot of when they talk about dual releases on Wii U/3DS where they specifically mention the game title and the system it is for to clarify. Ex: Smash Brothers for the 3DS or Smash Brothers for the Wii U. They are always meticulous with that language.

"Bah!" You say, "That's rubbish! If there was another version, they'd just come out with it already!" Nope. No, they wouldn't. Especially if said version is for a system they're being VERY adamant about not revealing information for yet.

To be honest, if they didn't mention ''Wii U'', people would be saying that since they didn't mention the Wii U it will be a NX title. So either way you slice it, people are going to make of it what they want. Mentioning the NX is a sign of the NX, not mentioning the NX is a sign of the NX, and apparantly mentioning the Wii U is a sign of the NX as well...

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TuVictus

Nah I still think it's getting a dual-release

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Grumblevolcano

@Operative: A new theory, the NX is literally a Wii U with better graphics.

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