Topic: Why do we need NX?

They discussed on IGN's Nintendo podcast and I felt it was a good discussion.

Assuming it is the replacement for the Wii U and probably coming late next year.....

What is it that makes anyone think NX will succeed more than the Wii U? What types of games is Nintendo going to make that can't be done on Wii U? Will a more powerful system make Nintendo games look better than they do on Wii U?

To me it seems like Nintendo struggled enough making the leap to HD with the Wii U...please understand our delays. Are they really ready to make even more advanced games? More advanced games are more expensive to produce aren't they?

What can they do that will make the NX more successful than the Wii U? Is it creating a machine that it is easy to port multi platform titles in hopes that they gain more 3rd party support? Even if that's the case I don't see it as a successful strategy as it didn't help the gamecube very much. These ports would be afterthoughts.

Will it have a new gimmic? I doubt a gimmic is going to carry the day. A gimmic is always a gamble. The Wii U largely went away from gimmics with its mostly traditional controller scheme.

I just don't see how releasing a new console is going to help anything. Sure the Wii U is not as successful as hoped but I don't see what it's lacking considering Nintendo's position. The Wii badly needed to be replaced much earlier than it was. I think it may have even helped the Wii U if it launched 2 years sooner when the Wii still had some power as a brand. I just don't see the need to replace the Wii U hardware wise and don't see how a new console is going to lead to any bigger success.

Why do we need another thread full of baseless assumptions and wishes?

As much as I like the Wii U, Nintendo is not going anywhere with it. Nintendo could release dozens more of stellar games on it, it's not what would make it sell better at this point.

A new console is always a huge gamble, but it draws the consumers attention at the beginning in a way that hardware that's been around for years just can't.

So you don't think we need NX either?

Outside of the gamecube to Wii every Nintendo console has been a significant visual upgrade. I personally don't even see PS4 and Xbox One as significant visual updgrades compared to previous generational leaps. I believe this is the reason the previous generation was abnormally long, graphics are already so good improvements are no longer as noticeable (and Nintendo milked it since the Wii had such a large install base while they sorely needed a visual upgrade). I highly doubt NX or whatever replaces Wii U will be a significant visual upgrade either and in my mind significant visual upgrades have traditionally been the reason to replace consoles. I don't see the reason to replace Wii U and can not see myself jumping on the next Nintendo console early like I did with Wii U....yeah sure eventually it will be replaced but I don't think slow sales are a good reason unless you have another compelling reason and I can't see what that reason might be.

I would be plenty happy with another 3 years of Wii U

So are you saying its a desperation move....that the motivation is to scrap something because they think its not working. They are hoping to generate success with some new angle? To me they don't need a visual upgrade so trying to draw people in with a new gimmic would be the motivation.

I do not think its that do WE need the NX....but does NINTENDO need the NX. the Wii U is not making nintnedo much if any money. Nintendo needs a new system to create bigger games(that is if the NX is a game system) also remember the NX was only announced to prove to people that nintendo wasnt going straight to mobile and that nintendo still dedicated to console gaming.

This is a bizarre thread. Nintendo is a business. They sell a product and then they sell a newer product when it's time.

I share your skepticism of what the NX can actually do to turn this around. Realistically, I would probably have preferred they persevere with the Wii U for longer. Especially given that Splatoon was a massive success and Mario Maker looks like it will be too. The Wii U's got such a great library of games.

NX is pretty clearly a desperation move, considering how recently the Wii U released.

I'd be happy with another 3 or 4 years of the Wii U as well, but Nintendo probably likes not bleeding money, so that definitely won't happen.

The question of the thread is why is it time. What is it about the Wii U that needs upgrading? Do you think Nintendo needs a more powerful machine to make new kinds of games? I don't think the kinds of games that need that power are games Nintendo is even capable of making considering their admitted difficulty jumping to HD for the first time and the expense of making such games.

Advanced games are more expensive to make aren't they?

I think all Nintendo Consoles have been a vast visual upgrade except the Wii which was mainly a new gimmic. I don't think moving on from the Wii U because you hope a new gimmic will lead to bigger success is anything to get excited about. I was mainly excited for Wii U because Nintendo would finally be in HD. I see no reason to be excited for NX and if Nintendo fans aren't excited to move on from Wii U to NX Nintendo is in trouble. We don't even have a proper 3d Mario or Zelda or Metroid on Wii U and I thought I would get those games when I bought the console. Moving on too early is a risk in my mind. I need these games on Wii U before I have an appetite for the next console because if they failed to deliver them on Wii U I probably won't buy an NX until those games are made.

Why is this in the Wii U section? It should be in the NX section. Also we don't know if the NX will be replacing the Wii U or the 3DS. Heck, it could not be replacing either and be something new. (My idea, micro-console. Home to all VC and some eShop titles. Will be built into other future systems and be part of their plan to bridge gaps between handheld and home consoles. Possibly let you stream bigger games from your home console in another room or allow some sore of Download-Play system for select Handheld games. there are a lot of options that a micro-console could open up for them, in my opinion)

Because it is a question about the Wii U......take issue with referencing NX but take the assumption aside and I am asking what are the reasons to move on from Wii U considering the games that have been announced so far....does Wii U have plenty left in the tank and if not why doesn't it?

I have issue with the thread being moved...it is a Wii U thread. What does the Wii U lack that is holding it back. I am not really asking anything about the NX other than using its name as an assumption for the sake of discussion.

Mods please move it back where it belongs..

You are asking "Why do we need NX?" You wanting us to assume it is a Wii U replacement has little effect on the conversation. The discussion will be what can the NX provide that the Wii U can't, and people can argue either that the NX is needed or it is not. This discussion only involves the Wii U in the way that we are to assume the NX is replacing it. I think that is why it shouldn't be in the Wii U thread and instead be in the NX thread section. Someone agrees with me since I didn't/couldn't move it.

Nx thread stays in the Nx Section

The NX is replacing the Wii U is an assumption for the basis of discussion. It is not a discussion about the NX because we don't know anything about the NX.

Then change the title to Should Nintendo replace the Wii U in 2016? Why?

It is a discussion about the Wii U's replacement, which for this discussion you want us to assume is the NX. So it is a discussion about the NX.

How about you don't tell me what to do

I just clarified I don't want you to assume anything about the NX. I want to discuss if the Wii U should be replaced in 2016.

I didn't realize mentioning NX was such a problem. I asked people to make an assumption it was exactly that in order to discuss the merit of replacing the Wii U soon.