Topic: What would you like to see in Nintendo's new online membership service/club Nintendo/Network ID?

@R_Champ: I disagree regarding achievements, there's a fair amount which ruin the experience because of how insanely difficult they are. No matter how hard you try, you just can't complete it (I'm looking at you Eruption and Creeping Death!). If you take this kind of approach into the Nintendo world, there would be stupidly hard things like "Complete all challenges in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U without using any hammers", "Obtain 200% completion in DKC Tropical Freeze", "Win a Turf War match when all your teammates are idle" and "Reach 99999VR in either Race or Battle online on Mario Kart 8".

If they put achievements, hopefully there will be an option to turn them off so everyone will be happy. Personally, I don't care for them - I prefer achievements in game as in SSB. But the choice should be there.
Apart from that, I'd like an account not tied to the system and a better online service - only if its free. If its paid, they can keep it as it is. Not willing to pay for something that should be free, as part of the games!
What I don't care about is crossbuy. When a game you like comes to a system you don't own, it's better to just forget about it unless you plan on getting said console in the future. Port begging between consoles has been annoying for the last console generation. "I don´t want a Wii U/3DS so bring it to the other system!". They won´t, make your peace with it and go on. There are a lot of other games available.

I never said it wasn't. I just don't want Profile based achievements on my Nintendo systems.

I see the achievement thing as exactly the "If you don't care for them, don't bother with them" situation. I'm sorry, but I just do.

You can keep saying that their mere presence irks your soul until the cows come home, but at the end of the day, the existing achievement systems out there in the wild (achievements, trophies, Steam achievements) literally have ZERO mandatory effect on how you are made to play a game, and if Nintendo would implement a similar system, chances are it would also have ZERO mandatory effect on how you play. If you wish to pursue the achievements, THEN you alter your playing. If you never even want to look at the achievement list the entire time you own the game, then that is your perogative as well (I don't think I've ever looked at the achievements for the games I own on Steam, and I have plenty of games on Xbox that I've never even viewed the achivements list).

Frankly, I think it's a little selfish for a vocal minority to campaign so vehemently against something that is purely optional. As someone else said, these "problems" with achievements that you are guys are coming up with are all just personal problems that you're trying to masquerade off as real problems. Guess what: they're NOT. That "insanely difficult" achievement that @Grumblevolcano can't get? Well, guess what? That's a @Grumblevolcano problem, not a problem with achievements in general. You can choose to just move on with your life and forget it even exists - it has no effect on how you enjoy your games unless YOU decide they do.

That isn't always the case. Some people have a compulsion to do things, sometimes it is out of their control. How achievements effect me is out of my control, it is how I deal with the situation that is in my control. The way I dealt with it on 360 is, I sold my 360 but I still have the compulsion to check achievements when talking about 360 games with my friends. It bugs me that I am only missing 1 or 2 achievements in Halo Wars. It bugs me that I am missing 2 achievements, one of them everyone else has, in Shadowrun. It is a person problem, but the way to fix that problem is to not interact with that system. If Nintendo implements system wide achievements I might have to stop playing Nintendo games, and I really don't want that.

So to say "just don't care about the achievements, it is easy," it isn't easy for everyone. Some people have trouble controlling their impulses. I can control my impulses better if achievements are implemented in individual games, but as a system wide function where people can view and judge me on what achievements I have, it is much harder to control. I hope that helps you understand why I am against achievements and possibly let you view it from another perspective. I don't want to have to quit Nintendo games, and I can't afford to get sucked into achievements again,

• No achievements. A game that needs to implement a system like that (party games, SSB, Sonic) can do so inside the game.
• No rewards.
• No voice chat. The last thing we want is to hear 13 year old kids cussing in Splatoon 2. There's no reason to communicate very much in online games, anyway.
• Cross-play, cross-save.
• Keep it simple. Adding pointless online functions that only serve to distract the player is already done by Microsoft and Sony.
• Oh, yeah, no paying for online. Absolutely not.

@Luna_110: No, the choice should not be there. There's no need for it, it's unnecessary and stupid. It also serves to clutter your notifications and complicate the software.

@DefHalan: Let me guess, you're also missing the General rank for online too?

@Bowser908: You know parental controls exist for a reason. And no options? Wow your a party pooper.

@Grumblevolcano: Yep... and i was only like a rank or two away.

@bowser908
Actually for some, there is some need for it. I don't care for it, but it should be up to every player to decide. That is Why they should be able to turn off. Assuming that you know what everyone else wants and calling it "stupid" is quite aggresive, don't you think?

And that is my problem how...??

Your (and others') personal problems should have no say in matters like these.

I disagree

Fair enough - carry on.

This is entirely a personal problem. It's not Nintendo's responsibility to look out for your completionist impulses, this is nannyism at its finest. And honestly? If this is your reason for not wanting achievements, it sounds like you have an addiction and you should get help (and I mean that sincerely, I'm not trying to put you down or anything).

Some sort of universal achievement/ trophy system is my #1 want in a new Nintendo account system. Make it happen!

Edit: Big fan of the PSNprofiles site... I love the stats tracking. Would love to see something similar for a Nintendo system, except "official" and run by Nintendo themselves rather than a 3rd party.

@Bolt_Strike:
I took care of the problem by selling my 360. I am fine with not playing on Xbox anymore, I am not missing much. Not playing Nintendo would be terrible. I don't want to give that up. As I have said it is a personal problem, but I currently have it under control. It is not Nintendo's responsibility but I don't see why I shouldn't voice my opinion against achievements if I don't want them. It being a personal problem for me and a business decision for Nintendo but that doesn't mean I should stay quiet about it. You can be for achievements, I am not telling you want to think, I am just expressing my opinion and how it isn't as easy as "just ignore them" for some people.

@DefHalan: You always have a right to your opinion, don't ever let someone tell you that you don't. I may disagree with you, but I will never tell you that your opinion isn't valid. As I said above, "fair enough" - you are entitled to it and I know we won't change one another's minds.

Your latest post shows me that you realize your problem is a personal one and that it is not Nintendo's responsibility to avoid it, so that is excellent.

@Luna_110: No, it shouldn't. Achievements can be implemented as-needed by games that require them, like Smash or Mario Kart. There is no reason, no reason at all, to have it part of the OS. When it is implemented, it's clunky and clutters your notifications with inane messages and your user page with "medals". It's good for manchildren, but not for kids or casual users or people who just want to play games with minimal fuss, without feeling like the system is judging you.

Luckily Nintendo has enough integrity to not implement anything of the sort. It doesn't line up with their vision at all, so they won't do it.

@Thatguywhoeats: No, anybody who wants Nintendo Network to become Xbox Live is a party pooper.

Exactly. Nintendo would never do something like that.