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Kuhang

In a recent interview Nintendo of America President and COO, Reggie Fils-Aime talks about the Skylanders partnership with Activision, Amiibo , business strategy etc. And in between the interview he spills some major information about Nintendo's Next console, possibly NX.

" We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later "

"We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console" No you haven't, Nintendo never talked about any Home console of any sort that they were working on, but what they've talked about is they are at work with NX. This further says something.

After this years's E3 we can safely assume that Nintendo slowly wants to kill off the struggling Wii U and ultimately release a new hardware come holiday 2016, atleast that's the plan I think. And after what looks like Reggie spilling the beans situation, It all but confirms that Nintendo's NX is a home console.

Source : http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/06/18/nintendos-reggie-fils-...

With these lines from Reggie's interview with Forbes further hints at NX being a Home console.

" In the home console space, we’re focused on Wii U. NX is in the future. That’s something that we’ll talk about at the appropriate time"

Source : http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidewalt/2015/06/29/nintendo-re...

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dumedum

In the same interview he says we are very early in the generation, so it confirms they are not killing the Wii U at all. I think the 3 years comment they made about Metroid points to a 2018 release of a new console, not earlier.

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Kuhang

dumedum wrote:

In the same interview he says we are very early in the generation, so it confirms they are not killing the Wii U at all. I think the 3 years comment they made about Metroid points to a 2018 release of a new console, not earlier.

That sounded more like we're still early in this generation so even if we bring on our new hardware we have enough time to compete with the PS4 and Xboc One since it's going to be a long generetion.

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skywake

Yeah, nothing in that interview confirms anything. He was asked about how the Wii U can hold its ground in the face of the success of the PS4/XBOne. He responded by going through all the usuals. That the home-console cycle is long, that there are more territories than just the US and that we were still early in the cycle. He then followed it up by doing the same "we're always working on something" and "we won't have anything to announce until much later" bit.

I personally think and have thought even before the NX codename was said that we'll get a new Nintendo home console sometime around 2018. But that we'll get a portable a good year or so before then. The fact that Reggie is talking about announcements "much later" and saying we're "early" in the home console cycle? Kinda leans more towards that theory if anything. Not that it "confirms" that Nintendo are releasing a portable first either. They're just doing the whole "we're not saying anything" dance.

When we get to the point where someone says "the NX is ____" or something along those lines? Then it'll be confirmed. Until then it's not confirmed.

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iKhan

dumedum wrote:

In the same interview he says we are very early in the generation, so it confirms they are not killing the Wii U at all. I think the 3 years comment they made about Metroid points to a 2018 release of a new console, not earlier.

Nintendo is not going to make an announcement in 2016 for something that is coming out 2018. But I don't even see 2017 as killing off the system, as the system will be old and near dead at that point anyway.

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Jacob717

Why do people keep thinking the system in launch in 2016?

The N64 was announced in 1995 and launched in 1996, the GCN was announced in 2000 and launched in 2001, the Wii was announced in 2005 and launched in 2006, and the Wii U was announced in 2011 and came out in 2012.

They're going to announce the NX in 2016, so looking at that pattern, it will be releasing in 2017.

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Kuhang

skywake wrote:

Yeah, nothing in that interview confirms anything. He was asked about how the Wii U can hold its ground in the face of the success of the PS4/XBOne. He responded by going through all the usuals. That the home-console cycle is long, that there are more territories than just the US and that we were still early in the cycle. He then followed it up by doing the same "we're always working on something" and "we won't have anything to announce until much later" bit.d.

I don't think this was the usual " We are always working on something/ something is always being developed behind the door " thing. It simply was a slip of the tongue, those lines were never meant to be said there. He spilled it out, Or it was actually meant to be on purpose for some reasons.
And Like Reggie said above "We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console" No they didn't, Nintendo never talked about any Home console of any sort that they were hard at work, but what they've talked about is they are at work with NX. This further says something.

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Aozz101x

i hate to be "that person" but People c'mon you really think that This is coming out in 2016?!
did he ever mention anything about NX? No, he just said "the home console" there no stated of NX being mention anywhere on that page, why can't people just wait until next year and figure out instead of going the idea of "oh this confirmed that NX is the Next Console"
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Jason723 wrote:

The N64 was announced in 1995 and launched in 1996

Because I'm a Nintendo nerd... N64 had much longer hype than that.
It was announced in 1993 as Project Reality. Cruis'n USA and Killer Instinct were released in arcades in 1994, based on prototype N64 hardware, and I believe Nintendo even advertised those to fans as a preview of the N64 hardware capabilities (I think they even had the prototype "Ultra 64" logo). It was actually announced for release in 1995 but delayed a couple times before final release.

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skywake

The only thing any of us have to go on are the announced titles and an announcement of an announcement next year. Every other thing is just people reading into stuff surrounding it. All of the theorising here is linking together multiple stuffs. Concluding A because of B which is assumed because of C, D and E. There is no one clear statement telling us one way or another. And there's no way they're going to give it to us until they have more to say.

Now I do agree that the low number of announced titles for the Wii U in 2016 is disappointing. If that doesn't change as 2016 starts to come into closer focus that's potentially a sign that the Wii U might be ending sooner than we think. But a lack of announced titles isn't confirmation that only announced titles will come out. The only period we can assume we know is through to the end of 2015. And upto that point the Wii U's lineup is actually quite strong.

So all the fortune tellers here might be on the money. But in truth we don't know. And given the popular thing to do is to just assume it's going to be a home console? I'm going to keep playing Devil's Advocate. Because until we know for sure the other scenario seems entirely probable.

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dumedum

iKhan wrote:

dumedum wrote:

In the same interview he says we are very early in the generation, so it confirms they are not killing the Wii U at all. I think the 3 years comment they made about Metroid points to a 2018 release of a new console, not earlier.

Nintendo is not going to make an announcement in 2016 for something that is coming out 2018. But I don't even see 2017 as killing off the system, as the system will be old and near dead at that point anyway.

Except that it won't. It's selling more every year and Zelda even might be delayed to 2017. All signs and all the upcoming games show that the Wii U is not being killed off at all.

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iKhan

dumedum wrote:

iKhan wrote:

dumedum wrote:

In the same interview he says we are very early in the generation, so it confirms they are not killing the Wii U at all. I think the 3 years comment they made about Metroid points to a 2018 release of a new console, not earlier.

Nintendo is not going to make an announcement in 2016 for something that is coming out 2018. But I don't even see 2017 as killing off the system, as the system will be old and near dead at that point anyway.

Except that it won't. It's selling more every year and Zelda even might be delayed to 2017. All signs and all the upcoming games show that the Wii U is not being killed off at all.

Every system sells more every year when it launches. But you can't just assume it will continue. Even the best selling systems of all time didn't go off that assumption. Aside from Zelda, the systems biggest system sellers are behind it. 2016 doesn't have much announced so far, and even if it gets a good deal of announcements, I don't see the launch schedule being more full than this year. The competition is starting to really kick into high gear as well. If anything, all signs point to this being the Wii U's peak year, probably at 4M systems sold.

Nintendo themselves have said they are announcing news of the NX in 2016. That means it's launching 2017 at the latest.

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Kuhang

skywake wrote:

The only thing any of us have to go on are the announced titles and an announcement of an announcement next year. Every other thing is just people reading into stuff surrounding it. All of the theorising here is linking together multiple stuffs. Concluding A because of B which is assumed because of C, D and E. There is no one clear statement telling us one way or another. And there's no way they're going to give it to us until they have more to say.

Now I do agree that the low number of announced titles for the Wii U in 2016 is disappointing. If that doesn't change as 2016 starts to come into closer focus that's potentially a sign that the Wii U might be ending sooner than we think. But a lack of announced titles isn't confirmation that only announced titles will come out. The only period we can assume we know is through to the end of 2015. And upto that point the Wii U's lineup is actually quite strong.

So all the fortune tellers here might be on the money. But in truth we don't know. And given the popular thing to do is to just assume it's going to be a home console? I'm going to keep playing Devil's Advocate. Because until we know for sure the other scenario seems entirely probable.

I would agree with you that the Wii U 1st party lineup for this year is pretty solid. But if we go by E3 this year, Next year it's next to nothing major announced as of yet. If Nintendo were confident about the Wii U's future they should've atleast showed some sign (any sign) at the biggest gaming event, like what they did last year. But I'm definately not saying Nintendo will not announce something later this year, which they probably will but what will they announce? That will reflect a lot on Wii U's situation.
and I think I brought up a valid point that when Reggie said "We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console" that Nintendo never talked about any Home console of any sort that they were hard at work, but what they did talk about was that they are at work with NX, which hints heavily on being a home console. So try to build up on that or counter it instead of just shooting that down. And nobody is fortune telling here, just trying to discuss about the possibilities or maybe even predict, could be for fun or just out of curiousity. That's what all these forum is about.

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iKhan

What I think is interesting here is that it means the Sharp freeform displays are probably being included in the home console. I'm very curious as to how they get integrated.

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I think it's going to be home console and portable because they unified the hardware development teams a few years ago.

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iKhan

They said multiple times that the reason for that was that the ideas behind development had become similar. Remember, modern gaming was really set into place in the 6th gen, which matches the power of the 3DS.

A fusion wouldn't make much sense. It would cut away a revenue stream, would probably be limited in power, and may even have very high cost. Nintendo can achieve the same benefit by having software parity, such that games are easily ported between two systems.

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Bolt_Strike

iKhan wrote:

They said multiple times that the reason for that was that the ideas behind development had become similar. Remember, modern gaming was really set into place in the 6th gen, which matches the power of the 3DS.

A fusion wouldn't make much sense. It would cut away a revenue stream, would probably be limited in power, and may even have very high cost. Nintendo can achieve the same benefit by having software parity, such that games are easily ported between two systems.

Porting games between two systems also reduces revenue. Pretty much any way Nintendo goes about this they're going to lose hardware sales, the concept itself cannibalizes their market.

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VanillaLake

That's the main purpose, to have software parity and be able to release at least one game from their main franchises per generation, something they are not doing since a long time ago. I know it has always been difficult to develop a powerful portable machine but times are changing fast regarding that, and the extra investment will save them millions by creating just one line of software for both handheld and home consoles. Also, it looks like they want to release some of those games for tablets and smartphones, too.

I'm the first guy in a queue for a new powerful GameCube rather than a new underpowered Wii, but Nintendo is not able to compete in the home market like this any more and, at the same time, they are doing great when it comes to handhelds, although I prefer home consoles.

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