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Topic: Should Nintendo Stop Making Consoles?

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smileyface97

I love my Wii U. I love my 3DS. But why is it that I love these systems? The 3DS has great design sure, and the WiiU's gamepad is nice when somebody else is using the tv. However nothing that these consoles offer is worth dropping money on if it weren't for Nintendo's exclusive games, which are admittedly amazing.
For Nintendo's next hardware what could they possibly do to return to mass relevancy? I have some ideas, but none of which I trust Nintendo to do/(pull off) or would I trust the market to accept. For example making a new handheld which is marketed as a handheld with console capabilities.
So to the topic of this thread: should Nintendo stop making Consoles? Becoming a third party for all platforms seems unlikely. But would Nintendo being a third or even first/second party developer for someone be beneficial?
On the argument of 'For', it seems like it would be very beneficial for gamers, as now we could simply by one console and Nintendo's games would no longer need to sell a console on their lonesome. Also I think that Nintendo would be forced to make even better games, as they can no longer sell games based on their simply being no other games to buy. It's also worth noting that Nintendo could then refine their company's structure so that management could focus on games.
On the argument of 'Against' I would suggest that this decision could lead to a downward spiral of Nintendo losing their foothold as a household name, which could eventually lead to irrelevancy. Or perhaps Nintendo's games may stop performing as well because people start comparing them more closely to the other games now contending on the same platform.
So what do people think: "Should Nintendo Stop Making Consoles?" Pro's, Cons? I'm torn, but if whatever Nintendo does next under-performs, this is a very real possibility.

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smileyface97

Blast

Nintendo has said before that they would rather die than go 3rd party. Nintendo still has alotta money in the bank. I still want them to make consoles because I like their style. They just need to rethink what a console is.

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iKhan

Here's what people are missing. Exclusive games are generally an anti-consumer practice in today's day and age. So from a "games available standpoint", any of the big 3 going 3rd party would benefit the consumer.

So then the question you have to ask is "what benefit to I get from X company making a console". I'd argue that Nintendo has the strongest answer to that question: Unique gameplay due to unique hardware. Nintendo is able to consistently utilize features like the Wii's motion controls, the DS and 3DS's dual screens, the 3DS's 3D, and the Wii U's Gamepad because they sell a console and a unique controller together.

On the other hand, when you look to Microsoft and Sony, you don't really need both around to have the current experience available.

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Grumblevolcano

I think Nintendo should continue making consoles but rethink the importance of both power and innovation rather than just innovation. Their consoles should be as powerful as the current competition rather than the last gen of the competition but things like the Wii U Gamepad and the 3DS touch screens are neat features.

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smileyface97

@Blast: I like some of their style. But we have to admit that "their style" is often frustrating. I like the UI on the WIIU/3DS, for example. Just because they have a treasure trove to rival Scrooge Mcduck doesn't mean they should waste it on hardware that will under-perform and ultimatly cost the consumer extra money that could have been saved if the software on the console were elseware.
On the sentiment that Nintendo would rather die; well ya, but they also said something similar about mobile games.

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IceClimbers

I personally don't care one way or another. If they fail, they fail. I'm the consumer - it's not my job to worry about the well being of a company.

One thing's for sure though: if they ever stop making hardware, they will go mobile only.

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smileyface97

@Grumblevolcano: I completely agree, but with Nintendo continuing to launch off cycle they are always going to be behind. And for the sake of argument, if Nintendo makes a console with equal power to the competitors what would draw third parties when they already have two other consoles with mass appeal.

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GrailUK

What a stupid thread. In the case of hobbies, it is better to have something than not. I.er...no..I just don't get this 6(?) year old mentality.

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smileyface97

@IceClimbers: Respectfully I disagree with that sentiment. Nintendo gong mobile only is most definitely not for sure, as you stated. Nintendo loves freedom in there development, that's WHY they create there own systems.
As a consumer you should care. If you like Nintendo then the future of the games they make and the quality of the games is intrinsic linked to the well-being of the company.

smileyface97

Grumblevolcano

@smileyface97: Well if Nintendo released the Wii U with XB1/PS4 power then people would've took the console seriously and that year advantage would've paid off. Given they went for 360/PS3 power, people ignored it because they've already had a console of that power for several years.

Grumblevolcano

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Geonjaha

Home Consoles? Maybe.
Handhelds? No way - they're still top of the market in that respect and the 3DS has done really well.

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smileyface97

@GrailUK: More is better, so far as competition goes. But so far as a hobby goes, I'm not saying Nintendo quit making games, just questioning the possibilities of a future without a Nintendo console. As a hobbyist you should be happy to receive more products for less money.
Please don't take this thread as me saying it should be one or the other. I'm legitimately interested in peoples opinions. (it's also worth note that I'm more interested in the industry than I am in the games.)

smileyface97

smileyface97

@Grumblevolcano: How expensive would that have been though. Nintendo rarely releases a console with a loss on the shelf. At the time of release and at the rate of which technology evolves, the WiiU console would have to release at ~$600 or more. So if Nintendo releases the next console at holiday 2016 and the PS5/Xbox*** release in 2019, the NX would have to be release at an insane price.

smileyface97

smileyface97

@Geonjaha: I can't argue with that. I do like to play zelda on my tv though...

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Chaoz

Blast wrote:

Nintendo has said before that they would rather die than go 3rd party. Nintendo still has alotta money in the bank. I still want them to make consoles because I like their style. They just need to rethink what a console is.

Basically this. I just want a console that targets us, the fans that been with them since the beginning. No amiibo crap, no crappy account system, cross-buy, and something that can imply to everybody, or in other words like the SNES just modernize.

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smileyface97

@iKhan: I agree with you on a theoretical level and if Nintendo could secure the same level of third party support as the competitors they would own the world. However with Nintendo releasing off cycle they won't be able to consistently get that support.

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TuVictus

Blast wrote:

Nintendo has said before that they would rather die than go 3rd party. Nintendo still has alotta money in the bank. I still want them to make consoles because I like their style. They just need to rethink what a console is.

While I doubt they'd ever go third party anytime in the foreseeable future, they also had nothing but bad things to say about making smartphone games. They can change their minds given the situation they're in.

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Grumblevolcano

@smileyface97: But if the Wii U was a success the NX wouldn't exist until like 2018/2019. Remember back to the 80's and 90's, Nintendo only created successors because the competition created consoles. The SNES was Nintendo's answer to the Genesis, N64 was Nintendo's answer to the Playstation, etc. If the Genesis and Playstation never existed, we'd probably still be focused on NES/SNES even now.

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rallydefault

Yes, it would be great to get Nintendo games on every piece of hardware out there, but if they would exit hardware, we would be missing out on some revolutionary stuff. The two-screen gaming of the DS line, the tablet on the Wii U (yea yea, but it WAS there lol), the motion gaming of the Wii, and whatever is to come in the future. Nintendo's hardware spurred innovations in its competitors, and for Nintendo to be absent in the hardware world WOULD have a trickle-down effect on the innovations we'd see in the future.

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iKhan

@smileyface97: The thing is, Nintendo doesn't need 3rd party support to be valuable. Would it make their system's more worth a purchase? Sure, but the reason Nintendo should keep making consoles is because of how they build their games around their hardware.

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