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brucelebnd

last year mentioned creating a budget console for emerging markets.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/182105-nintendo-is-making-a...

this year they announce their partnership with dena and a new nintendo platform. it makes sense that it will be a budget console because china and emerging markets are a gold mine.

http://www.newzoo.com/insights/global-games-market-will-reach...

so I think Nintendo will develop an android type console, maybe like amazon fire. NX games will probably be compatible with smart phones and current nintendo system and most likely cross platform buys, all thanks to their partnership with dena.

Nintendo's lost the graphics war and they figured that out with the gamecube. I just don't think Nintendo will gamble and make a powerhouse when the market just isn't their for that. people who really care about power usually don't buy nintendo and nor will they because nintendo is perceived as a kiddy gaming system nor will 3rd parties jump on considering the market just isn't there. I also doubt nintendo wants to gamble on the ridiculous costs it takes to develop for powerhouse systems. destiny was around a 500 million right? nintendo would never dump that kind of money into a game.

it might be crazy but i think nintendo is betting on the emerging market because the rewards could be great and the risk is minimal. however I doubt nintendo will abandon the japan and the west entirely, so i believe that's why the wii u and N3d will probably have a longer life span then people think.

it's crazy i know

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CaviarMeths

There is next to no security in an Android system. It will almost certainly be ARM based and have a proprietary OS.

NX was announced as a dedicated games hardware, separate from mobile. Iwata later clarified that the goal of mobile is to bring people into their dedicated games hardware, so compatibility is very unlikely.

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BigBabyPeach

Yeah, I think so too...Iwata also kinda implied that when he said something like "it's boring if you only expand upon existing technology". His statement bothered me at first, but the more I think about it the more I'm fine with Nintendo doing their own thing...especially since 3rd parties are becoming less relevant to my enjoyment of gaming.

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brucelebnd

@CaviarMeths duh! I remember Iwata saying that. thanks for the clarification.

@BigBabyPeach, plus a lot of japanese devs like Konami, Sega and I think Capcom are moving heavily towards mobile. Konami especially

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Vincent294

I thought I heard something about them canning that system for developing markets.

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skywake

CaviarMeths wrote:

NX was announced as a dedicated games hardware, separate from mobile. Iwata later clarified that the goal of mobile is to bring people into their dedicated games hardware, so compatibility is very unlikely.

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I never expected the NX to be a powerhouse. As long as it's an improvement from the 3DS or Wii U(like the Wii was to the GameCube, the GameCube was to the N64, the 3DS was to the DS, and so on), I'll be fine with it.

If it still offers a fun gaming experience, I don't mind if Nintendo tries to reinvent the controller yet again.

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ElkinFencer10

I think the NX (assuming it's their 9th generation console and not some non-traditional hardware) will be fairly powerful. Maybe not a 40-core processor running at 10 terahertz, 20 terabytes of RAM, 500 TFLOP/s, and a 500 TB SSD, but I don't think they'll make the mistake of having a dramatically underpowered console compared to the competition for a third time in a row (the Gamecube was considerably stronger than the PS2 and Dreamcast, falling behind only the Xbox in terms of hardware power in its generation).

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brucelebnd wrote:

last year mentioned creating a budget console for emerging markets.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/182105-nintendo-is-making-a...

Iwata himself confirmed last month that they have scrapped this plan.

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Rumorlife

I pee myself laughing at the people who waste their time typing out their blog/news articles about their hopes and dreams for the NX saying "yes if I was Iwata (because he obviously makes every single choice for the entire company) I would make it 100 times more powerful than PS4 and maybe more like a true gimped PC and add the GameCube controller" and also at the people who are like "YES. I ALREADY HAVE CONFIRMED ON MY OWN THAT THE NX IS A _____ DEVICE". Either way it won't be a powerhouse. iOS/Android will not be toppled by a Nintendo "phone" no matter what their stance is on their device making calls or texts, good luck even scraping a true 3rd place in that market. The next console to succeed the WiiU will be an underdog in power just like every single other time Nintendo has made a console. Doesn't mean I or you should hate it, but it's inevitable that they'll do the less powerful system each and every time.
I can imagine them doing something on par (but slightly lesser) than their MS & PS alternatives, but there'd be some screw up. It's impossible for them not to.

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BlueSkies

@brucelebnd
They expressly stated that the NX and the QOL platform are two totally different platforms (and we will not see information on the QOL or phone-games at E3). They might be doing something really far out with the QOL product and it should just have graphics equivalent to 3DS.

NX's graphics-- On the possibility that the NX is not a powerhouse, it would make the system completely pointless for it not to be. Nintendo says they want NX to expand to new consumers (beyond WiiU). The consumers they are missing are eating up X1 and PS4. Nintendo has to target those hardcore, Western consumers. They have to make the decision that the NX is not intended for the Japanese market-- the NX has to be for the rest of the world.

Matching the PS4 in terms of graphics will not do. They can not only take advantage of the three year gap between the PS4 and NX; they can nix the HDD and optical drive in favor of a medium just like the N64 DD (but with 50GB zip disks), and that will let them invest over $100 more into the GPU.

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skywake

Here's a very, very safe set of predictions:

  • In five years from now both the Wii U and 3DS will be retired
  • In five years from now we'll have a new portable and home console from Nintendo
  • Said next portable console will still use cartridges and will be more powerful than the Vita
  • Said next home console will still use disks and will be more powerful than the PS4
  • Neither of these platforms will come out this year, late 2016 at the very earliest for either

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bitleman

@BlueSkies

That would be incredibly stupid to target an audience who doesn't want to play on Nintendo machines like it was the only audience on the market. Nintendo should keep targeting a different audience that is not interested by their yearly western AAA like COD/Fifa/Madden/Assassin's Creed/Batman that you call "hardcore" lol

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Grumblevolcano

@BlueSkies @bitleman Technically they need to do both because without 3rd parties, the game output is extremely limited but Nintendo fans won't care about the console if it's too focused towards the Xbox/PS style. Think about the Wii U for example, it's entirely possible that all of the Splatoon content is already finished but they're holding back the vast majority of it to try and make a 4 month game drought less painful (3 month in Europe).

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Chaoz

Well that's kinda a given. I really can't name any Nintendo system that was a powerhouse.

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Grumblevolcano

Chaoz wrote:

Well that's kinda a given. I really can't name any Nintendo system that was a powerhouse.

GameCube.

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GrailUK

Grumblevolcano wrote:

Chaoz wrote:

Well that's kinda a given. I really can't name any Nintendo system that was a powerhouse.

GameCube.

Nah, the Xbox was the powerhouse that generation.

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bitleman

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The game output wouldn't be limited if Nintendo focused on one system instead of two now
If you add the WiiU and the 3DS library Nintendo released twice more games than any other publisher since the beginning of the year

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@GrailUK

Are you kidding me? The Ps2 reigned supreme in that generation, just look at console sales, and how long the console was actually on the market (it just stopped production last year in Japan).

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@GrailUK

Are you kidding me? The Ps2 reigned supreme in that generation, just look at console sales, and how long the console was actually on the market (it just stopped production last year in Japan).

By powerhouse he meant pure power. The Xbox and Gamecube were both more powerful than the PS2 but had drawbacks. The Xbox was a bit late to the party and was more expensive due to the built in HDD. The Gamecube killed its self with an unapealling form factor and a terrible choice of media in the mini disc.

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