Topic: NX 1st 2 confirmed games are 3rd Party Games... YEAH!!!

I agree with you on the "Nintendo and Microsoft have different types of games" thing, but I thought the Xbox division was losing MS money? I dunno, I heard that "factoid" somewhere. Not quite sure if it was fanboy console-war BS or some kind of half truth or whatever.

Also devil's advocate: NX version probably not the PS4 version, still no solid confirmation on console type or specs so it could be either just a port of the 3DS version or its own thing entirely if power rumours are to be interpreted that way.

@Sleepingmudkip: Actually, it's not that profitable. Xbox didn't make profit as a brand once until a couple years ago and was in fact a massive money sink for Microsoft. Right now it's barely profitable, if it's even breaking even, despite revenue growth. Because they're Microsoft, they can afford it

@IceClimbers: Oh I didnt know that.

Percentage of sales by region for some notable platforms:

That's showing where the product is strongest but not the where the product is strong, also where's the Xbone?

Perhaps because we weren't talking about that......

I didn't include the XBOne for the same reason I didn't include the PS3 or DS. It's about the same and so I just listed the consoles from each respective company that most recently broke through. I almost didn't include the Wii U but this is a Nintendo forum. I also almost included the PSP but figured that you can probably guess what it was like, it's basically the same as the PS4 except that it's a portable and so did well in Japan.....

Uhm... Windows 10 is a thing, yea, and it's going to allow streaming with Xbox back and forth, but the Xbox brand has become very successful for Microsoft. It's one of a few of its divisions that has been turning a profit recently. They're not trying to phase it out. Where the heck are you getting your information? If you watch interviews (good one of IGN with all three past/current Xbox execs) and read Xbox stuff, you should know they've never even hinted at wanting to exit the big race.

Do you have articles or anything to prove what you said, or are you just speaking out of your rear end?

I think the NX is a cheaper console that has great specs. Specs that's around Xbox One and PS4. This is great cuz 3rd parties can easily port games to it. If it can also run Unreal Engine 4 then watch the money come in, Nintendo!

But what about when Sony Soft release their 9th gen systems?

They aren't releasing those for a good while. People keep forgetting that Nintendo is making a profit off the Wii U, Nintendo is literally the only company even posting profits, and Sony and Microsoft haven't posted a profit in forever. So what's my point? Microsoft and Sony are in nooo rush to kill these systems... especially Sony.

As I said, I didn't post the XBOne and PS3 because they were largely the same as their other generation counterparts. Which should be obvious now I've posted a graph with all of the things on it. I didn't show Sony's portables because you could probably guess what they look like (Sony does well in Europe, Japan increasingly likes portables). And I didn't show how well they performed against each other in each region because that wasn't the point.

We were talking about how each company targets a different demographic, I said it was deeper than that because there are regional preferences also. Someone said that Nintendo didn't do well in Europe and so I posted a graph to lay it out. No more complex than that. I haven't omitted anything, I'm not trying to twist stats. I graphed the proportion of sales for each platform by region. When some of them reach upto 60%? That means almost 60% of sales for that console were in that region. That's it.

Playstation posts profits most years. 2006-2011 was a total disaster for them, but it's been 4 years since then.

Xbox division is combined with other products like Surface in the financial reports, which is profitable. We don't know how Xbox does by itself.

Ohhh... But I thought Sony and Microsoft wasnt posting profits overall. Oh... Well thanks for telling me.

Nice too know. I'm guessing DQX will be NX launch day game and DQXI in 2017 if its based on ps4 version.

Pretty much... This.

Dispite what you see in the media, the XBox brand has been a money sink from Microsoft.
They've even had to merge sales numbers with other areas of their business to make it look profitable.
The XBox was in responce to. PlayStations threat to PC gaming.
MS dose not recive a cut of PC game sales like on consoles, but they do get royalties from tech like DX, which XBox could help push (remember, at the time OpenGL was more popular).
XBox was entirely successful so they went all out on the 360, neglecting PC gaming. One of the MANY reasons Vista failed.
Still, XBox is only alive today because of money from other areas of Microsoft.

PS3 pulled a 3DO and would have suffered the same fate if not for money from other Sony products. They just sank money into it to keep pushing it out the door till it caught on.

Nintendo, meanwhile, had been selling it's consoles for profit, and have had chart toppers even when they had a low number of consoles like the WiiU.

Now, many areas of Sony's buisnes are in trouble and looks as if Microsoft may finally be focusing on PC gaming agian after flops of Vista, 8, Windows Phone, and Windows Live (all worse flops then the WiiU lol). I agree with others that that they may merge PC and XBox. I will allow them to collect royalties now that DX has become main stream so they don't need to sink so much moeny into hardware. This makes Nintendo look like the most stable console maker dispite their use if gimmicky devices

Predictions: Nintendo will release the NX to some degree of success. Sony will not be able to make much of a responce, due to financial trouble in other areas and will continue to ride out it's sucess of the PS4 untill sales finally fall off. Microsoft will provably not release another console in response, opting for some 1/2 assed add-on like a proorly integrated AR and continue to focus on Windows 10. I believe the "XBtwo" and the "PS5" will be released 2 or 3 years after the NX leaving Sony and MS to fight eachother. The XBtwo will be highly intigrated with your PC and smart phone ecosystem while the PS5 will be a regular and safe console update with just a bump in power. Next Nintendo console will be 2 or 3 year after that and continue that pattern.

I guess that is good news in the grand scheme of things (just reading the title), but honestly, I'm mostly a first party guy. Maybe a few others mixed in like Rayman for example. I know when this thing launches the first thing I'll look for is just first party titles, unless they fix Sonic or have another new good Rayman out then.

But that's the thing... I already know Nintendo's 1st party games are great. Most are pretty amazing and timeless. That's why 3rd party support is so vital. Nintendo can't keep pumping out 1st party games nonstop. We need those 3rd party games... badly. That's why hearing Square Enix announce Dragon Quest games for the NX is sooo freaking great.

@Syntech: Very interesting predictions. Yea, lots of craziness when you really sit down to think about it. I don't know nearly enough about each company's finances and divisions and such - I just know most people overlook the fact that Microsoft/Sony are gigantic companies that have many other assets to profit or lose from.

@rallydefault: Yeah, people are still think in terms of Power = Profit and don't realise MS and Sony are the ones that were really struggling. PS4 and XBone were "safe" bets as they were all but standard PC parts.
This gen didn't even match a mid-range gaming PC when they were released.
Nintendo need(s/ed) to look at a really good gaming PC and figure(d) out how to produce it as cheaply as possible.
Make it to program for by using already established APIs and things programers are familiar with.
Give dev-kits to everyone and their grandpa.
And over-hype the hell out of it.
Publishers will wet themselves.
Even if no one takes advantage of the power, they will still get the multi-plats.
By time the "next gen" comes out, the NX should be hitting it's stride making it the default platform to program for.
XBox and PS will try to do a massive leap to compete, but those level graphics will be too expensive at the time.
By time graphics finally become feasible for the new consoles, it will be time for a new Nintendo.

BTW, would really love for square to revisit the original FF:CC with online multiplayer