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NinChocolate

"...we would like to offer to them "a dedicated video game platform with a brand new concept" by taking into consideration various factors, including the playing environments that differ by country." -Iwata

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skywake

Regardless of which version launches first I'd strongly suspect that we'll get a home console and a portable. And that the specs could easily come close to something along these lines:

Portable:

  • approaching the 360 in terms of raw horsepower
  • still using cartridges and still using SD cards for internal storage
  • knowing Nintendo they'll bump the screen resolution but only upto 480p
  • built with ease of development in mind (so games can be developed for both platforms at once)

Home Console:

  • Above the PS4 in terms of horsepower. Easily.
  • I don't think they'll shoot for above 1080p/60fps. 4K simply won't be practical on a console until 2020-ish
  • Still using Blu-Ray based media and supported by either a 1TB HDD or 250GB of flash based storage
  • built with ease of development in mind (so games can be developed for both platforms at once)

.... the real tricky bit is, why would you buy them? I know why I'd buy the portable even without the software. They need to do some work selling the idea of another home console however. Both to me and I'd assume to most of the public.

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iKhan

One of the reasons I'd be concerned with a 2016 launch if it's a home console is that, by that time, they still may not have the technology to offer a platform significantly more powerful than PS4 that also costs $300 or less. They have to aim for the low price point, as not doing so would severely hurt their ability to entice kids/parents..

For the portable, I still can't get over the android rumor. It would be a perfect OS for Nintendo to use, as it would make their platform open to the mobile games industry (which is making handhelds more and more niche)).

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NinChocolate

Reggie called the NX a "next home console" in a recent WSJ interview. Details set loose?

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Barely_able

DreamOn wrote:

Reggie called the NX a "next home console" in a recent WSJ interview. Details set loose?

Yeah, it is basically confirmed. The Metroid Prime producer (I think it was him) also said it was a home console. Now we just have to see if it is a unified device like some have speculated.

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skywake

DreamOn wrote:

Reggie called the NX a "next home console" in a recent WSJ interview. Details set loose?

Source?

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NinChocolate

skywake wrote:

DreamOn wrote:

Reggie called the NX a "next home console" in a recent WSJ interview. Details set loose?

Source?

www.wsj.com/articles/BL-DGB-42336

NinChocolate

skywake

actual quote for people who want to read it, doesn't actually mention NX BTW:

WSJ: Sony’s and Microsoft’s consoles have far outsold the Wii U. What’s your strategy to come out ahead?

Fils-Aime: The time frame that these systems are sold is quite long, and right now we’re still at the very early stages of the current generation. The other piece I would highlight is this is a global business. Don’t just look at what’s happening here in the U.S. Look at what’s happening globally.

From a Nintendo perspective, we clearly have strength here in the Americas, we have strength in Europe and we have strength in Japan. That isn’t necessarily true of some of our more direct competitors. We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later.

In that response he's going out of his way to say that home consoles are sold over a long period of time and that we are still very early in the generation. Also that they are working on their next home console but that it's something they'll talk about much later. And yet people still read into it that he's saying the NX replaces the Wii U and is imminent. That may be the case and it may be that this is a bunch of PR dribble. For sure. But at this point if it's PR it's not working. I think they need to actually come out and say what the NX is, whatever it is. Because it's getting a bit ridiculous.

Edited on by skywake

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AceDefective

DreamOn wrote:

skywake wrote:

DreamOn wrote:

Reggie called the NX a "next home console" in a recent WSJ interview. Details set loose?

Source?

www.wsj.com/articles/BL-DGB-42336

He mentioned a next gen console, didn't directly mention it was NX.
In case your wondering why I sound so desperate it because I refuse believe Nintendo PR got this stupid.
>Your digital event caused unease in Wii U brand's future, especially when it's starting to come together and climbing in sales.
Alright, alright, we can fix this, just gotta-
>You mention NX, before mentioning anymore upcoming Wii U software
Alright slight problem, can get any wor-
>Confirms you're working on next console, doesn't even try to push current in one in same statement.
Nope, done.
You've officially caused damage to your brand, good luck undoing that.
I wasn't even completely serious when I said this before, but now not so much:
2015 - The year Nintendo PR went to s***.

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If the NX is a console, I wonder how Nintendo will make it look.

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skywake

Aromaiden wrote:

If the NX is a console, I wonder how Nintendo will make it look.

Well there isn't much they can do for looks really. The optical drive kinda dictates the design. Even if you go to the two extremes of "cooling potential" for a computer that sits under your TV that has an optical drive you don't see that much variety in the looks.
Wii U:
Untitled
MITX HTPC case that supports full sized graphics cards:
Untitled

Not that big a difference in terms of looks I'd argue, it's basically the same thing just at different sizes. With the Wii U it's about as small as they can make it because of the need to fit in an optical drive. At the other end that HTPC case is "small" but can still fit the highest end gear so any bigger than that is "wasted space". Unless you want to go insane. So it'll probably look like something within that range but probably closer to the Wii U end of the spectrum.

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NinChocolate

"Very early in the generation" would mean no more than half the lifecycle but for anybody but Reggie, even less than that. If we're early in the generation yet, then this E3 would have to be considered suicide for the console with only announcing Tennis and Amiibo Festival as brand new titles. When have they ever not teased a game bigger than Tennis in any prior E3? When have they had a console at maybe 10M units after 2.5 years on market and expect to sell that failing console for another 2.5 -3 years all while pushing "next platform" messaging?

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NinChocolate

skywake

DreamOn wrote:

"Very early in the generation" would mean no more than half the lifecycle but for anybody but Reggie, even less than that. If we're early in the generation yet, then this E3 would have to be considered suicide for the console with only announcing Tennis and Amiibo Festival as brand new titles. When have they ever not teased a game bigger than Tennis in any prior E3? When have they had a console at maybe 10M units after 2.5 years on market and expect to sell that failing console for another 2.5 -3 years all while pushing "next platform" messaging?

2003. The biggest game was Pacman Vs, they had Mario Kart Double Dash but people were annoyed that it wasn't the Mario Kart they wanted. The focus was largely on games people didn't really care about and the Gamecube, despite having quite a few games at that point, was struggling. And while this was all happening the very next year they went all out with the DS, basically replacing the far more successful GBA. Slightly earlier into the GC's life but pretty similar overall. It was a similar story for E3 2008 I'd argue with the only difference being that the Wii was still riding on a sea of cash. In neither case did Nintendo then dump their console at the next E3.

But still, the point I'm making is that he didn't say anything of the sort. You're just reading into it because you've already come to a conclusion. I agree that it doesn't look good after E3 but a bad E3 doesn't mean that a console is being retired soon. All he said was that they were working on new hardware, which they always are, and that it's something they'll be talking about "much later". That may mean 2016 but just as easily it might not. If he had said that they are working on a new home console called the NX and they'll have more to say in 2016? Or even the same without saying NX? Then that'd be something.

Edited on by skywake

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NinChocolate

Well I was wasn't really speaking to you're previous post but more trying to make sense of why Reggie would say we are early in the generation of a console that just had an E3 that opened with Reggie saying the Next platform will be shown off next year. His PR Speak has been so inconsistent this year

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iKhan

skywake wrote:

actual quote for people who want to read it, doesn't actually mention NX BTW:

WSJ: Sony’s and Microsoft’s consoles have far outsold the Wii U. What’s your strategy to come out ahead?

Fils-Aime: The time frame that these systems are sold is quite long, and right now we’re still at the very early stages of the current generation. The other piece I would highlight is this is a global business. Don’t just look at what’s happening here in the U.S. Look at what’s happening globally.

From a Nintendo perspective, we clearly have strength here in the Americas, we have strength in Europe and we have strength in Japan. That isn’t necessarily true of some of our more direct competitors. We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later.

In that response he's going out of his way to say that home consoles are sold over a long period of time and that we are still very early in the generation. Also that they are working on their next home console but that it's something they'll talk about much later. And yet people still read into it that he's saying the NX replaces the Wii U and is imminent. That may be the case and it may be that this is a bunch of PR dribble. For sure. But at this point if it's PR it's not working. I think they need to actually come out and say what the NX is, whatever it is. Because it's getting a bit ridiculous.

So NX is definitely not necessarily imminent, but I think this interview makes it abundantly clear that NX is a home console. He said "We've also said publicly". The only thing they have publicly advertised is the NX. Everything else is rumor and vague reference.

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skywake

DreamOn wrote:

Well I was wasn't really speaking to you're previous post but more trying to make sense of why Reggie would say we are early in the generation of a console that just had an E3 that opened with Reggie saying the Next platform will be shown off next year. His PR Speak has been so inconsistent this year

Either the NX is a home console and that whole line he gave the WSJ was PR nonsense. Or the NX is not a home console and he was talking about the platform that would actually replace the Wii U when he was talking to the WSJ. Either way they do need to get their messaging straight.

iKhan wrote:

So NX is definitely not necessarily imminent, but I think this interview makes it abundantly clear that NX is a home console. He said "We've also said publicly". The only thing they have publicly advertised is the NX. Everything else is rumor and vague reference.

I'm pretty sure they've said that they're always working on new hardware. It's not a secret. It's also a known thing that Sony and Microsoft are also working on what their next platforms are. It's just that since the NX announcement everyone has attached every mention of "the next thing we're working on" to the NX.

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iKhan

skywake wrote:

iKhan wrote:

So NX is definitely not necessarily imminent, but I think this interview makes it abundantly clear that NX is a home console. He said "We've also said publicly". The only thing they have publicly advertised is the NX. Everything else is rumor and vague reference.

I'm pretty sure they've said that they're always working on new hardware. It's not a secret. It's also a known thing that Sony and Microsoft are also working on what their next platforms are. It's just that since the NX announcement everyone has attached every mention of "the next thing we're working on" to the NX.

Usually, when they say they are working on new hardware, it's a vague reference. I'm almost positive Reggie is referring to NX when he says "We've also said publicly"

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skywake

iKhan wrote:

[Usually, when they say they are working on new hardware, it's a vague reference. I'm almost positive Reggie is referring to NX when he says "We've also said publicly"

He may be referring to the NX but he didn't say NX.

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Henmii

A smartphone-like device (but also with buttons) that replaces both Wii u and 3DS. May be the same power as Wii u, or slightly more. Can maybe also connect to a tv in some way. Sure comes with NFC for allllllll the Amiibo. Is basically made to give us acces to their mobile games, and everything will be digital only! No cards, no discs!

Sounds scary? Of course, but Nintendo doesn't care! Does it bomb? Hard to tell. People love smartphones, but it would totally piss of the gamers. Not that Nintendo cares though.

Release-date: November/December 2016

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Henmii

WebHead

Revision:
Hardware Spec: eshop microconsole that plays NX, Wii U, 3DS, Android, and VC software. A repackaged, spruced up Wii U with a quad core ARM cpu instead of power PC.
Controller: Wii U Pro controller with headphone jack, analog triggers, rumble, a small screen for navigation.
Unique Feature #1-Control variety. All Wii U controllers plus New 3DS, NX controller, and select mobile devices for certain games
Unique Feature #2-very deep cross connectivity and cross play.
Unique Feature #3-something with the membership service

Like Nvidia Shield console but with Nintendo's charm/twist.

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