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Topic: How Nintendo can more adequately appeal to today's youth

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isaiahhoyt

And i edited my original post to include minecraft.

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isaiahhoyt

@faint Wait when have i ever said minecraft players were a minority. Yes in my original post i did not talk about minecraft. Minecraft is probably even more popular than sports games or call of duty.

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faint

@isaiahhoyt I pointed out minecraft in my post arguing against the call of duty stereo type. If you look above. You wrote back claiming it as a minority. No matter how you edit it's in my email. Maybe you didn't mean to tag me but you did so I wrote back. My point is kids want freedom to create and play a game the way they see fit with their own objectives. The closest thing Nintendo has made to this is animal crossing and that's still a long way off. It would do Nintendo well to make a game that feels and looks different than mincraft but has the same rules and make it an exclusive pack in.

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DefHalan

Minecraft and Terraia are popular games, but that doesn't make those types of games popular. The AAA shooters have a ton of clones that remain relatively successful, but those Crafting/cration games fail, unless they are Minecraft and Terraia. I think it is better for Nintendo to make sure those games are on their system instead of trying to make their own version of those games.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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faint

@DefHalan I would argue they can do it better. They also have a shooter now that has done exceptionally well on a 15 million user base. It even outsold 3D world.

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isaiahhoyt

@faint Its nintendo's fault that their games and console are not as popular as they were simply because nintendo has not made a game that would innovate the industry since ocarina of time and the last nintendo console to innovate was the wii or n64. Breath of the wild looks like it will be highly innovative

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isaiahhoyt

@faint Of course nintendo does not need to innovate instead nintendo should focus on creative games creativity does not need innovation innovation needs creativity

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faint

@isaiahhoyt I think they have been quite successful with the 3ds. The 3ds is at nearly 58 million units while the vita is one or two million ahead of the wiiu.

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isaiahhoyt

@faint I still have never said minecraft players were a minority

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World

Well, I can say that the absolute deluge of remakes and remasters lately pretty much alienates anyone who wasn't born in the 80s and 90s. A few were cool at first, when they were special, but now it's just like that same old guy who always tells "you had to be there, man" jokes that aren't funny unless you really were there.

Not saying whether or not Nintendo should bother courting a younger audience, but necromancing old games forever at the expense of new games (not talking about the VC, which I think is a good way to preserve the old) is a sure way to turn them off.

Otherwise, I don't know. I notice that younger players come in with an expectation of free games on the 3DS and then the handful they do find are so limited (Stretchmo et al.), way out of their developmental league (Pokemon Picross) or exactly like smartphone games (Shuffle) that there seems to be no point for the 3DS to even exist.

(Not that I agree necessarily; just something I've noticed with younger players).

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skywake

From my post in the near-identical thread on the same topic

skywake wrote:

The last point I'd make is that when I was a teen the coolest things were always the things "nobody else" was into. I suspect that teenagers have been and will always be like this. I mean it often ends up being stuff that is actually very popular anyways. It's just marketed to look like it's not. So if Nintendo was to focus on getting teens on board? What I'd say they need to do is not change anything other than their marketing. Start to make some marketing talking about how different they are to everyone else. Nintendoes what Sony doesn't

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"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"

isaiahhoyt

@faint I know the 3ds is highly successful along with every other Nintendo handheld but for a Nintendo handheld its the worst selling so Nintendo is not as popular as they once were

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faint

@isaiahhoyt that points more to handhelds losing popularity. Would you say PlayStation is pretty popular? The vita sure isn't and the psp sold like hot cakes. Also the ds, game boy, and game boy advance had very long life spans. The 3ds is still going through its life. The issue isn't Nintendos popularity it's the wiiu. People just don't want it. They want to play its games but they want to do it on their hardware.

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isaiahhoyt

Yes most of the players on the gb, gbc, gba and ds there was no way to play games on the go for a couple of minutes but tablets and mobile phones came and with free games to the average person who would want to play on nintendo handheld or console

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faint

@isaiahhoyt actually you misread my post. The 3ds has done quite well selling nearly 60 million units where the vita has sold 15 million units in the same time frame. I saying people don't want to play Nintendo home consoles anymore. They want to play wiiu games but don't want the wiiu. The 3ds is successful the wiiu is like the vita not successful.

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isaiahhoyt

@faint But you have also misread my post nearing the end of the original ds lifespan smartphones became incredibly popular with the casual gamer so when 3ds in the same time period has sold less than half of the original ds and thats bad. Nintendo handhelds are always going to be popular but less than half in the same amount of time is really bad sales wide and yes alot of people want to play nintendo games but how many want them enough to buy a wii u about 10 million look at breath of the wild of the most hyped games this decade but nobody is hopping of their couchs and buy a wii u but thats not whats happening in the end we'll just have to see how many sales the nx recieves

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faint

@isaiahhoyt what happened to all the psp gamers? It sold 79 million units. Are they also all casuals who went to phones and I pads?

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isaiahhoyt

@faint well the gba sold less than the ds because the seventh gen was an anomaly and the psp was released before smartphones and app games became mainstream so yes most psp owners were causals

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