Oh Oddy, you really shouldn't tempt me in such ways. Naughty!

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Apparently "Natal sucks" and Sony's Move "feel...

The technology is superior to what's found in the Wiimotes. Once developers get the hang of it there will be some really good games produced for it.

With the sole exception of Wii Sports not a single game used the Wiimote well for the first few years of the Wii's existance.

i don't agree with that; of course nintendo has lifted ideas, but not to the extent their competition has. sony's systems are least 80% nintendo, starting with the original playstation which was the result of the botched CD add on for the SNES, which even came complete with an SNES controller. look at all of the innovations nintendo has implemented since then; analog controls, rumble, motion control, and weigh them against the gaming innovations sony and microsoft have brought to the table... online play is all i can give them credit for; the rest came from nintendo.

many people will correctly say many nintendo ideas were already out there, but they weren't successful until nintendo made them work. where did you see rumble in a controller before the n64 days, an old joystick from the 80's? and how many games could you find that supported it? those inventions existed, but you'd be hard pressed to actually find and enjoy them as a gamer. nintendo often takes failed ideas that other companies gave up on and makes them a success; of course i'd rather see them create their own ideas, but i think there's a difference between resurrecting a cool idea that no one did anything with and stealing a competitor's controller within months of it's production, which is what sony has consistently done every time nintendo introduces something new.

i'm not a nintendo loyalist in saying that. i like all the systems, i just think they're much different companies from another. sony and microsoft are gigantic corporations who got in the game late only when they saw some money in it, and the uninspired decisions they make reflects that fact. their goal is not to create a fun gaming system, but apparently to make an omnipotent system that will serve as an impressive all-in-one entertainment center that may occasionally play games now and then.

nintendo of course is out for money too, but they've been there since the beginning and have more than anyone else shaped what we consider good games to be. they demonstrated with the wii that they were the only company who understood that graphics alone wouldn't make games more interesting, and they still seem to care about fun simply for the sake of fun. that leads them to continually look for new ways of playing, which is something the other companies never regard as a priority until nintendo proves how receptive people are to unique new gameplay methods... then the rip-off cycle begins anew. nintendo isn't perfect, but it's hard to argue that they're not the biggest innovators in the field of games.

that was very long, and on second thought, totally unwarranted.

Won't convince me in getting a PS3.

After multiple editorials at IGN slagging Nintendo it's nice to finally see the other two getting the boot. Hopefully we'll see one bemoaning the lack of diversity in "AAA" titles on the platforms and conservatism of the fanbase. Still not reading it though!

the problem is that i dont think anybody would buy something so similar to the wii for their kids even if the technology is better

Nah, not going to happen. You seem to be under the impression that developers and customers are going to flock to this thing, which they most definitely won't. Why would third parties bother creating heaps of games that no one but the people who have already shelled out 100$ for a special controller will buy when they can make games for the normal controller everyone owns anyway? Controllers like this never get much of an attachment number.
Let's compare it to the Wiimote+, shall we? How many games absolutely require that add-on? One? Most of what we'll get for the Move are games that use it as an optional, but not ideal, alternative controller - you got to make sure the game works perfectly fine without the Move, having the Move as the main controller type will just kill sales. Other than Sony, who have an interest in the Move doing decently, there's no reason for third parties to bother with it, and every reason for them not to.

Well, i had PS2 once, and that's propably the best console after different nintendos i've ever owned. Anyhow, i selled the system along with games like shadow of the colossus, okami, san andreas and mgs 3... and felt absolutely nothing after giving that console away. That's how much it meant for me. Afterwards, i bought okami back for the wii and noticed that controls and graphics were superior to ps2 version (unlike some bad players claim), and the game just felt better when i played it with nintendo. I'll never gonna buy sony's or microsoft's consoles again, and i consider it a win, not a loss for me, since i don't lose my money for shit like playstation or xbox...

I saw this on the news today its going cost you 100$ Just to have that control. I think thats way to much for that.

I saw it on the news also.

My thoughts exactly. :3

You're just saying what I'm thinking. Though, to be fair, a Wiimote with a jacket looks pretty sex aid as well

Natal's cheaper than that, and it's easily more "innovative." Bottom line, I don't see how a camera tracking an orb is going to be more accurate than an infrared pointer. Sorry, that's going to be glitchy as all get out, at least for the first few batches of hardware and the first couple years of software released. If it was actually similar to Ninty's tech on a controller on an HD system, I'd be worried, but this method is so backwards....

Sure, technology advances, it can work, but I don't see it being more impressive than WM+ on release.

What's worse, is a half empty wii-motion+ jacket. It's not very nice having one of those waved at you. D:

I heard Sony are coming up with an increadible new inovation called..................the Sony iPod! There's also going to be a Sony iPhone, a Sony CD player and a Sony DVD player....such brilliant innovation!

im not sure if natal will be much cop.

i scrolled through and had to paste this-
"New Super Mario Bros Wii reviews are in, one word: “disappointment”

The reviews are coming in and it looks like New Super Mario Bros Wii is yet another disappointing Nintendo release. Between this and Mario Galaxy it’s time for Nintendo to retire Mario for a bit."

wow. they coupled this with about 5 'bad' (near 7.5/10) reviews, which means they must have rounded up every mediocre review on the net since the game is so universally regarded as awesome. and what the hell is the mario galaxy bit about? when has it ever been regarded as anything but a masterpiece by the gaming community? enjoy your glowing snow cone and subnunchuck, friends.

(quietly hopes that's not what this forum looks like to sony fans....)

Nintendo can easily sue the rip-off repulsive Sony over this. i'm talking about the unbelievable sub not-nunchuk. If Nintendo choose not to it's only because of PR or concern that Sony might actually come up with something else. Which is unlikely because Sony are complete douche-bags.

I doubt it, I think Sony are smart enough to check up on what patents and copyrights Nintendo might hold before pulling a move like this. I'd assume that everything is technically above-board, even if it is very similar to the Wiimote and Nunchuck.

LOL, that is so sad. Made me laugh though.