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Bolt_Strike

crimsoncavalier wrote:

I do not believe it will be a game console because I honestly believe that this is the end of Nintendo as we know them. I believe that they are going to go into a hybrid gaming device, and that is going to be their future. I think one very telling clue that no one has mentioned is that no where in that press conference did you hear the word "console" ... you heard "dedicated gaming machine" and "hardware" but I don't remember hearing the term "console". Now, whether this was deliberate or not, or maybe if it was just a matter of translation between Japanese and English, I, obviously do not know. However, I think it is definitely something to consider.

I won't say here whether I think this is good or bad, because that is a bit off topic, but I do believe that we have officially heard the beginning of the end of Nintendo as we know them.

That's going a bit too far, the use of the phrase "dedicated gaming hardware" implies that they aren't changing their business model that drastically, it's still going to be a device that primarily plays games, it's just not going to be limited to one environment. They don't seem to be giving up on consoles, just redefining them.

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crimsoncavalier

Bolt_Strike wrote:

crimsoncavalier wrote:

I do not believe it will be a game console because I honestly believe that this is the end of Nintendo as we know them. I believe that they are going to go into a hybrid gaming device, and that is going to be their future. I think one very telling clue that no one has mentioned is that no where in that press conference did you hear the word "console" ... you heard "dedicated gaming machine" and "hardware" but I don't remember hearing the term "console". Now, whether this was deliberate or not, or maybe if it was just a matter of translation between Japanese and English, I, obviously do not know. However, I think it is definitely something to consider.

I won't say here whether I think this is good or bad, because that is a bit off topic, but I do believe that we have officially heard the beginning of the end of Nintendo as we know them.

That's going a bit too far, the use of the phrase "dedicated gaming hardware" implies that they aren't changing their business model that drastically, it's still going to be a device that primarily plays games, it's just not going to be limited to one environment. They don't seem to be giving up on consoles, just redefining them.

Maybe you're right. Maybe not. Still, "redefining" the term "console" or "dedicated gaming hardware", to me at least, means that we are about to witness a huge change in what Nintendo is. Hey, maybe I'm 100% wrong, and this will be a new home console that will bring N back to the glory days. Who knows. I am simply stating my gut feeling here.

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OfNullAndVoid

I wonder if the NX is going to be 2 systems sold as one. One part being a dedicated gaming machine, the other part being a portable scaled down (CPU/GPU) version of that gaming machine. This would allow games to be scaled up/down according to the hardware on the machine, much like PC games can be scaled up/down to a degree. Of course, selling 2 systems as one could end up being pretty expensive.

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Bolt_Strike

crimsoncavalier wrote:

Bolt_Strike wrote:

crimsoncavalier wrote:

I do not believe it will be a game console because I honestly believe that this is the end of Nintendo as we know them. I believe that they are going to go into a hybrid gaming device, and that is going to be their future. I think one very telling clue that no one has mentioned is that no where in that press conference did you hear the word "console" ... you heard "dedicated gaming machine" and "hardware" but I don't remember hearing the term "console". Now, whether this was deliberate or not, or maybe if it was just a matter of translation between Japanese and English, I, obviously do not know. However, I think it is definitely something to consider.

I won't say here whether I think this is good or bad, because that is a bit off topic, but I do believe that we have officially heard the beginning of the end of Nintendo as we know them.

That's going a bit too far, the use of the phrase "dedicated gaming hardware" implies that they aren't changing their business model that drastically, it's still going to be a device that primarily plays games, it's just not going to be limited to one environment. They don't seem to be giving up on consoles, just redefining them.

Maybe you're right. Maybe not. Still, "redefining" the term "console" or "dedicated gaming hardware", to me at least, means that we are about to witness a huge change in what Nintendo is. Hey, maybe I'm 100% wrong, and this will be a new home console that will bring N back to the glory days. Who knows. I am simply stating my gut feeling here.

And I don't disagree with that, it's just that based on what they're saying, they have no intention of changing their focus on dedicated gaming hardware and creative software anytime soon. But they can and should reinvent themselves in other ways, they pretty much need to at this point to stay in business.

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Jmaster

OfNullAndVoid wrote:

I wonder if the NX is going to be 2 systems sold as one. One part being a dedicated gaming machine, the other part being a portable scaled down (CPU/GPU) version of that gaming machine. This would allow games to be scaled up/down according to the hardware on the machine, much like PC games can be scaled up/down to a degree. Of course, selling 2 systems as one could end up being pretty expensive.

I think the difference between what can be done with a console and what can be done with a handheld is too big for that right now.

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I imagine it like a Wii U as a charging/main station compatible with the tv for gaming with local co-op and tv gaming compatible with other controllers. And then a 3DS type deal that you can take anywhere and download games on.

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iKhan

erv wrote:

It is just happy speculation and best guesses, but looking at what a vita can do today technology shouldn't be an issue. I also believe it could be a way for nintendo to be different, as they rarely get into a technological power struggle with the competition. In fact, that very fact might just enable them to get ahead.

Parity between OS is also possible. But if the mobile strategy is anything to go by, would nintendo really want to have two systems to try and get users to buy for the premium gaming fun? I doubt it.

And technically, they mastered streaming to the gamepad and back so I guess they have their own proof of concept right there.

The thing is that they have to fit competitive console technology in a handheld sized device. That's going to be very expensive. They have to compete on power, as that's the fundamental problem Nintendo has run into with 3rd parties. Even if Nintendo advertised the crap out of 3rd party games and paid out craploads of money, the power is the ultimate bottleneck that keeps 3rd parties away.

You wouldn't need both systems to have the full experience. It would be like you see today, with a home and handheld console. But you would see certain games (like Donkey Kong Country) be available across both platforms.

They have streaming to the Gamepad, but the Gamepad costs ~100 dollars to include in the Wii U. So in your concept, you have to ask what new gaming experiences you are getting with a step up in cost.

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Blast

I still say Nintendo announced this stuff too early and I can't imagine a super casual gamer playing a Nintendo smartphone game, see an advertisement for Wii U and suddenly want to buy the console. Why? These super casual gamers on smartphone wants their games to be free or close to free! Only the loyal Nintendo fan who would already own a Wii U to begin with... would actually spend money on a Nintendo smartphone game!

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Sleepingmudkip

This was announced way to early and now i am sorta regretting buying the new 3DS & Wii U because i feel like the nintendo NX is around the corner. This is one of the first times where i feel like im generally being ripped-off.

Sigh

I honestly feel like this might be the end of me being a nintendo fan if this doesn't go in just the right way.

Edit: Im surprise how many of you guys are so hyped for this new console. I would hope nintendo makes the console less then $400, keep physical media and make it on par or more powerful then the PS4/X1. I also hope that if it has "smart devices integration" that it wont restrict anyone who doesnt want to use the feature.

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Tasuki

IceClimbers wrote:

So new hardware, and there will be more info next year. The codename sounds cool "Nintendo Next" essentially.

Is it or do Ninitendo's code names always sound cooler then the final name?

I mean Revolution sounded alot better then Wii

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NX: a blessing or a curse? we'll find out next year.

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DefHalan

I think the feel of to soon most people are experiencing is because the last generation was so long. People are still expecting this gen to last 7-8 years while thinking it is to long to wait for hardware, just a conflict of what they think and what they feel. For those saying it is to soon, what about the current hardware do they still need to explore that won't be seen in the next two years?

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Bolt_Strike

Blast wrote:

I still say Nintendo announced this stuff too early and I can't imagine a super casual gamer playing a Nintendo smartphone game, see an advertisement for Wii U and suddenly want to buy the console. Why? These super casual gamers on smartphone wants their games to be free or close to free! Only the loyal Nintendo fan who would already own a Wii U to begin with... would actually spend money on a Nintendo smartphone game!

Well Nintendo has already started experimenting with the F2P pricing system with games like Pokemon Shuffle, so they shouldn't have that much trouble. And the beauty of this system is that as long as they're making money off casual games, they don't have to get the casuals to buy Wii U. They can expand their userbase without needing gamers to buy their hardware.

DefHalan wrote:

I think the feel of to soon most people are experiencing is because the last generation was so long. People are still expecting this gen to last 7-8 years while thinking it is to long to wait for hardware, just a conflict of what they think and what they feel. For those saying it is to soon, what about the current hardware do they still need to explore that won't be seen in the next two years?

Yeah, NX probably won't be launching until 2017, and by then, the Wii U will be 5 years old, which is the average lifespan for a console. That's not too soon at all.

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IceClimbers

Tasuki wrote:

IceClimbers wrote:

So new hardware, and there will be more info next year. The codename sounds cool "Nintendo Next" essentially.

Is it or do Ninitendo's code names always sound cooler then the final name?

I mean Revolution sounded alot better then Wii

I agree. Nintendo Next would be a really cool system name. Or perhaps the NX stands for "Nintendo X" with the X pronounced as "cross", referring to it being a hybrid platform.

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AlternateButtons

Do you think there will be a huge gimmick this time around? Or is Nintendo going to try to go more hardcore next gen?

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cookiex

Guitardude7 wrote:

Do you think there will be a huge gimmick this time around? Or is Nintendo going to try to go more hardcore next gen?

With the claim that it'll redefine what we think of as Nintendo hardware there will likely be some 'innovation' involved, but at what level we don't know.

On the other hand Miyamoto has said that he's lost interest in making games for the casual crowd and Nintendo will have that market covered with the smartphone deal, so NX could be a step towards appealing more to core gamers.

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Grawbad

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Grawbad wrote:

Personally, I think the cloud is the future. One day, it won't matter your device, youll be able to play even the most demanding games on anything. So it would be a hard sale at that point for the big 3 to release hardware since you just need to access your stuff via anything. Sony seems to be trying to make you use their hardware to use their cloud system. This is not going to work in the long run. Microsoft seems to be leveraging its Windows platform to use the cloud in the future for cross gaming. A better strategy, but still not the right one.

Now Nintendo is, as always in a unique position. Either they were already really thinking about this with the Wii U and how they could ease people in to still buying hardware in the future, or just dumb luck, but either way, their next system could leverage a Wii U type pad that could function without the home console in the vicinity, and basically run the games over the net to the device. The cloud basically.
Can you imagine playing a full HD regular version of any game out there either on your TV or on the go anywhere in the world with an internet connection? PRICELESS.

That would be a real reason to buy hardware in a cloud based world.

I really hope this is what is happening. Please god that would be awesome. All of the sudden, Sony and Microsoft would be like, awe crap, we gotta do that now.

This is pie in the sky, but the tech IS there now. Someone just has to utilize it properly.

Something cloud based is something i associate with PC but yeah you're right it really is a platform in and of itself, a very likely development IMO given the expertise of DeNA.

Sony is already leveraging the cloud. They bought Gaikai so they could start. They want you to be able to play any game in the playstation portfolio regardless of the system you own. Its easier than building in backwards compatibility and you don't have to emulate since the servers nativity run the software. I think they are calling theirs Playstation Now.

I think Microsoft is leveraging their PC dominance and will make it so you can cross platform play first and then when cloud gaming hits full force, they pretty much have the way to still sell hardware.
Nintendo could be on a better track if this is what they are doing. I mean, its almost prophetic of them with the design of the Wii U.

These companies are trying to find a way to survive when cloud gaming is in full affect. Think about it. If steam starting doing cloud tomorrow. No longer would you need an expensive PC to run games. You could run them on your tablet. All you need is a controller. This would seriously HURT the big three. Other than their first party games they would be at a disadvantage. So to leverage their first party games with the cloud, you need to sell hardware. The way to do this is by making a portable device attached to it, to give meaning to cloud gaming other than streaming to your home.

I am no analyst though, but I seriously doubt a real analyst of the gaming world would count out cloud gaming. I know cloud is a buzzword, but in reality it means you can play anything, anywhere without costly devices to do it. Just gotta buy the games.

I am just trying to connect the dots. Maybe this isn't what they are doing, but it is certainly where we are going.

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Er regarding the cloud you guys do know microsoft is the Top three in the cloud computing Market with Azure right. Also Nintendo jumping heavily into cloud computing would be a big investment.

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Rocko52

Guitardude7 wrote:

Do you think there will be a huge gimmick this time around? Or is Nintendo going to try to go more hardcore next gen?

Nintendo's "hard-core" enough as it is, heh. Having its own IPs, plenty of Japenese third-party support, and just making generally fantastic games is much more important than satisfying any "hardcore" demands. Basically, keep being Nintendo, just add in some other features, try to get more support perhaps, etc,etc.

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