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MoogleMuffins

921. Posted:

ELI-ASH wrote:

@MoogleMuffins I noticed Kane outside when JBL's music hit. totally gave away he was doing something later.

Yeah it was pretty embarrassing they did that. Speaking of Kane though, anyone else think he looks an absolute bad donkey in his new corporote look?

He's in the best shape he's been in years as well.

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922. Posted:

@MoogleMuffins: oh my god i'm so glad i'm not the only one who is enjoying Kane right now. i know he's not doing the Big Red Monster thing at the moment and he gets heckled with 'you sold out' chants every time he shows up now, but damned if I don't find him terrorizing Maddox hilarious, and I don't mind him playing his part with The Authority at all. he's oddly well-suited for the job (haha, suited, geddit?).

shoot, in all honesty i'm just glad he's still getting decent airtime after the end of Team Hell No (which had me rolling for months, him and Bryan and those little counseling skits of theirs were hilarious).

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923. Posted:

Man I so need to get back into WWE. I haven't watched it since last year's Wrestlemania.

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924. Posted:

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I think Kane is vastly underrated, he's definitely one of the best performers of all time in my eyes, especially a big guy.

Team Hell No was fantastic, Kane didn't end up doing much though when they split up. Monster gimmicks don't work as well now as they did in the 90's, they are too cartoonish for this era, so by having Kane be corporate, lets him have the chance to be a more believable monster.

I'm sure he enjoys wearing a suit as well, he's quite the political activist in his real life.

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925. Posted:

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Team Hell No was fantastic, Kane didn't end up doing much though when they split up. Monster gimmicks don't work as well now as they did in the 90's, they are too cartoonish for this era, so by having Kane be corporate, lets him have the chance to be a more believable monster.

he never does a whole lot of anything after he's done with a feud or team or anything, that's why i'm glad to see him still getting airtime. and you're absolutely right — he's still a monster, just with a new setting and a new way to intimidate people. not sure how long it'll last, what with that dressing-down from Stephanie over the way he handled Punk a couple episodes ago, but for now, i'm content :3

I've really loved Kane ever since he showed up (well, since Jacobs showed up as Kane; i don't remember much about his earlier gimmicks), the whole 'Brothers of Destruction' thing back in the day was so awesome. hell, everything back in the days of the Monday Night Wars was pretty awesome. i sorta miss the days of 'monster' types getting over and terrorizing people, it's just so much fun than the usual 'grr i'm'a get that title belt' stuff :3

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926. Posted:

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well my excuse for still watching is, to support former indie wrestlers i watched for so many years. :p

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927. Posted:

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Yeah what is going on with Steph and Triple H, are they heel or face? (sorry If I'm bring in pro wrestling lingo and some people don't get it). Like you said that whole scene with Steph and Kane was strange, why would they want him to apologise to Punk, Did they forget all the insults he spouted towards them and their family in 2011 in the Summer of Punk?

You're right again, monster gimmicks used to be fantastic, I think Kane was supposed to be a one-off character just to feud with Undertaker, but he ended up getting immensely popular and was definitely in or just under the top 5 in popularity in the attitude era.

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928. Posted:

@MoogleMuffins: if i had to theorize or anything... I'm gettin' the feeling that Vince ain't gettin' any younger, so they've sorta had H take his place on-screen. If you look at him as a Vince McMahon stand-in, his place in the WWE world seems clearer. H himself has always been ambiguous at best, flip-flopping from heel to face as he pleased (or as the writers wrote him, whatever), he can be as serious as he can be hilarious, so i think he's perfect for the role, really. it's not his fault Stephanie has always been a beast, lol. as for her making him apologize to Punk... well, he was in the wrong, and she had to keep him in line, i guess. it kinda made sense from a corporate standpoint (like the thing with H and the potential lawsuit from Big Show a while ago), and it sorta reminded the rest of us that he's very much a puppet in whatever game The Authority is playing at the moment. Stephanie seems to be playing 'legal enforcer' or something, since she was the one to insist to both of them that they were in the wrong and they had to go out and apologize and whatnot in both situations, come to think of it.

as for things that have happened in the past, you know as well as I do that WWE tends to ignore (ahem) major happenings like that if it's convenient for them to do so. if they ever decide to go after Punk for srs I'm sure they'll trot that amazing rant of his out again, but for now, it seems they're letting it slide. :3

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929. Posted:

@MoogleMuffins @theblackdragon what i keep hearing from the dirtsheets is this whole "authority" angle will end with vinny coming back (with Daniel Bryan at his side)and taking over control or something, Vince was on tv twice and nothing happen yet.

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930. Posted:

@ELI-ASH: i try to avoid the dirt sheets and proper wrestling forum to avoid spoilers (and excess behind-the-scenes seriousness, i prefer to stay properly bamboozled)... but dammit. I want Vince to step back and let H take over in his place as ambiguous antagonist, I really do. :(

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931. Posted:

The thing I dont get is why all the hype for Daniel Bryan? I mean I understand that alot of people don't like the decision of Batista winning the Royal Rumble but I can see why they did. Honestly I dont get the hype for Daniel Bryan, I honestly think Batista is better the DB who I find rather bland.

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932. Posted:

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The thing I dont get is why all the hype for Daniel Bryan? I mean I understand that alot of people don't like the decision of Batista winning the Royal Rumble but I can see why they did. Honestly I dont get the hype for Daniel Bryan, I honestly think Batista is better the DB who I find rather bland.

I'm sure Vince wish we all thought like that. I don't even hate Batista, but Daniel Bryan has become such a huge underdog character everyone can get behind him. Everyone's annoyed because you have guys busting their behinds to get to the top and part timers keep coming back to steal the spotlight on the biggest show of them all.

But I cannot understand why you say Daniel is bland and Batista isn't? Did you hear his promo on RAW last week?

How generic and boring can you get?

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933. Posted:

@Tasuki Daniel Bryan always has the best match with any opponent week after week. going in every1 knew batista was winning it. Thats why they hijacked the show.

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Tasuki wrote:

The thing I dont get is why all the hype for Daniel Bryan? I mean I understand that alot of people don't like the decision of Batista winning the Royal Rumble but I can see why they did. Honestly I dont get the hype for Daniel Bryan, I honestly think Batista is better the DB who I find rather bland.

Daniel Bryan can wrestle.
Batista can not.

I could be more nuanced about it, but that about sums it up. :)

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935. Posted:

for the record, Daniel Bryan is my favorite underdog in wrestling, just from a character perspective alone.

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936. Posted:

@MoggleMuffins: You do have a point but I dont know I have always enjoyed it when some of the older guys come back after being gone for awhile.

@the_shpydar: Ok I can see that point that Daniel Bryan has better technique but I dont know I guess I just like Batista's storylines more or something.

Also I will admit the last time I really watched Bryan was about a year ago and I just can't put my finger on it but something just annoyed me with him.

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937. Posted:

Wow, this is the most active this thread's been in a while lol.

Daniel Bryan is ace! The reason I like him so much is that he's just a fun character, the underdog, and that's really it. He's just a guy trying hard, making him appear relatable even. Not to mention I love the YES! chant haha. And as mentioned, HE CAN WRESTLE!

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938. Posted:

Bryan also was basically a legend in the independents (even more so than CM Punk) So coming to wwe Bryan already had a fanbase.

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939. Posted:

also it's nice to see a babyface main eventer (which he basically is despite all the nonsense) that doesn't come across so much as the "trying too hard to be cool, kind of more of a jerk than the bad guys" guy like everyone whose been trying too hard to be Austin or Rock.

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940. Posted:

ELI-ASH wrote:

Bryan also was basically a legend in the independents (even more so than CM Punk) So coming to wwe Bryan already had a fanbase.

I remember Chris Jericho saying in an interview after Daniel Bryan had a match with him on NXT, Chris went straight to Vince and basically said this guy is great he can definitely be a star here.

And Vince turned round and said "Who's gonna get behind a guy who doesn't eat meat?"

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