yeah, it's beyond my abilities to explain to insane, delusional supersmarks to explain that Cena actually does his job well despite some awful booking

he's considered retired by no is certain if that's true. Probably including Taker. We need Taker vs. HHH 2 and Taker vs. Cena at least, it would be such a shame if we never got those matches.

@kkslider5552000: His job is usually boring though.

Wow. Can't wait to see the follow-up on RAW.

Meanwhile, is Bryan going to be the first MitB winner to not succesfully cash in? I'm betting yes.

Also, @Tasuki, i believe UT is on one of his regular breaks. That's pretty much been his working schedule for a few years now, where he'll take time off post-WM or after a big storyline blow-off PPV match.

Wow it's 2005 again guys. I did not realize that. Thank you.

2005: when Halo was the most overrated series and Call of Duty was known entirely for being great and the only good WW2 shooters left.
2005: when TNA wasn't something you wanted to dissappear.
2005: when Kanye West was known for being an idiot on live tv...wait...
2005: when Nintendo was willing to publish original games/IPs.
2005: before DLC, Autotune and Justin Bieber.
2005: when everyone still had money

Oh I do miss 2005. Good year, if not too memorable (for me, at least. Was it memorable for our members here? That's the important question.)

Oh 2005, what a good year that was...thank you for reminding us all, y2josh. Thank you.

RAW tomorrow night is a can't-miss show.

That's all I have to say.

Actually it is a miss show. The biggest face and should be biggest heel (but which is which ZOMG :0 ) are gone apparently. Gonna miss that legendary title. Oh well.

Also, not surprised Christian won. But i'm totally tired of the Orton-Christian feud, which is pretty much guaranteed to continue now. It's not bad, but i just can't get into it, despite being a Christian fan (but Christian's Kill Switch t-shirt is horrendous, looks like something a kid made in a t-shirt shop ... and the finisher itself is pretty stupid too, just because of the lame set up for it).

Del Rio winning his MitB match was expected. And the right move.

BTW, @kk, what the heck are you talking about (post 344)? That's an honest question, i really can't tell at all.

As far as Cena goes, I think most wrestling fans know Cena is awesome when it comes to being the star he's written to be, and is great for the company, but just hate the role that he's booked into, since it's boring and the "super-Cena" stuff is just tired. The younger fans love it though — just like Hogan back in the day, so it's just one of those things that we accept, but actually enjoying it is another matter.

for me Cena is either one of the best post-2000 wrestlers, really bad or "ok I guess" depending on multiple factors. For example: Cena carrying Khali to a watchable match after months of must-see matches. Great. Cena climbing on HIAC after no-selling Jerishow and Orton, really bad. Typical Cena "ok I guess." Even if I hated him I would find haters laughable and predictable.

and I'll give you 3 guesses what year the Cena hatred started (and was the most justified outside of maybe the Nexus burial).

Also, honestly, I was hoping this would be the return of Barrett in the main event.

The Legends are buzzing.

The Rock: "Congratulations to new WWE Champion @CMPunk. Gonna be a helluva run for you. I hope our paths cross."

Steve Austin: "@CMPunk and @JohnCena had a big time pro wrestling match. I loved it. And I loved the finish. Congrats to both guys. Great stuff."

"WOW!!! What a Tremendous reception for @CMPunk! That was a 10 out of 10. Hell Yeah!"

I've grown tired of the spinner belt...

It doesn't even spin anymore!

Best part: at the end Alberto's like "YES I'M GONNA WIN I'M GONNA WIN I'M GONNA-kicked

fail horn

I mean if the Big Show feud didn't make me not take him seriously, nothing will but still...

also, why are Christian and Mark Henry the top heels on Smackdown? It's way too late for Henry no matter how good a job he's doing and there are like half a dozen heels more over on Raw than Christian, and Barrett would be too if he wasn't buried to death. Christian's best work in this feud has been when he hasn't been TOO heelish, so despite the great booking at the PPV, the turn still sucked.

Who turned? I really didn't understand who was supposed to be good or bad. Orton lost it and went overboard, which is a heelish action. Christian spat in Orton's face, which is a heelish action, even though I liked it.

A tribute to the NEW and GREATEST champion the WWE Title has seen in ages, CM Punk! Finally getting to shine as the main eventer he is. And the storyline behind his rise has made for the most interesting storyline also in ages! I hope he's still with WWE, and shows up at the end of Raw tonight to create a WWE Title controversy! Either that, or throw the Spinner Belt away al a Medusa Micelli when she joined WCW, on his first TNA telecast. Straight edge, Pepsi and Cobra FTW!

I highly doubt that they will let him do that. That was the one of the main reasons for the Montreal Screwjob. Vince didnt want Bret to do the same thing as she did. Since than when someone leaves the company and has been a champ he has it that they can never do that with one of the WWE titles if they go to another company.

Here's Vinnie Mac's attempt at Montreal Screwjob II, Punk's win and escape with the WWE Title. Love Punk's look at 2:47. Looks like a deranged Edward Norton in "Fight Club", hee hee. Give that man a bar of soap to go with is WWE Title!!! Oh yeah. I like Pepsi! Not sure how long this video will stay up, if anyone wants to see how it ended last night.

@Tasuki
I'm actually glad to hear that. I've followed the WWE/WWF Title for so long, since the days of Hogan in the mid 80's, that I'd hate to see the title disrespected like that. I don't think Punk would do that anyway. I'm not the biggest fan of the Spinner Belt design, though.

TIME TO PLAY THE GAME!!!

So now I am wondering was that an official changing of the guard so to speak or was it just storyline?

Triple H hearts Vince McMahon, ZOMG! I just threw up a little in my mouth... I can't see Vincent K. McMahon disappearing long-term. He still has far too many years of troublemakng left! Maybe just a break from TV appearances for other stuff going on in his life. What's bothering me is where is the WWE Champion, CM Punk? Maybe he is gone (sheds tears). Forget Miz & Mysterio. To be the man, WOOOOOOO, you have to beat the man and CM Punk is the man!

Great RAW. The show was already strong, what with the focus on the title, and actual quality wrestling matches, and then the end segment was awesome. I was mildly suprised by the subtle TNA reference, with Cena saying he'd show up on "someone else's show...brother!" Totally didn't see the Vince "firing" coming, though once HHH came out, it was obvious where they were headed. Still played out great, and Vince's tears made for a great moment.

@Tasuki
Vince's "firing" is worked, though there have been some recent backstage changes, including new creative team members, and some additional office peoples being brought in for the day-to-day stuff. I think Vince is slowly pulling back from his ultra-hands-on position, until eventually he'll be more of a general CEO of the company rather than the "buck stops here" guy on all decisions. But right now, the "changing of the guard" so to speak is just storyline.

@BetelgeuseWC77
Punk is gone from WWE, for the time being. His contract expiring is legit. He's most likely just going to sit out for a while (a la Jericho), then eventually return. As i think someone here mentioned, i'll bet they go with him showing up sometime next year, claiming to be the "true" champion.

That'd be cool for Punk. To return with the RIGHTFUL claim of being the "REAL WWE Champion". Like Ric Flair did with his "Real World Champion" line he ran with upon joining the then-WWF circa 1991. Hopefully, he'll get the push he deserves when he returns, and fans haven't forgotten the life he brought back to WWE these last few weeks! Maybe he'll return with the Spinner Belt somehow altered (would be funny with the Pepsi Belt above I found at IGN LOL) and use it like Ted DiBiase used his Million Dollar Belt! Straight Edge Title (heard someone once used an "FTW Title" in ECW LOL).