Topic: What is your opinion on the Nintendo hardcore fanbase?

@Iz2009....... I didn't play Radiant Dawn... I played and beat Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Mario Kart, Metroid Corruption, Smash Bros, Red Steel, Excitebots (favorite on system), Blastworks, TigerWoods, Wii Play, Resident Evil 4, Need for Speed Carbon, Monster Truck, Racing Game thats Cell Shaded cant remember the name, Resident Evil Chronicles, CoD3, Ghost Squad, and a few more. When literally nothing came out for over a year that I really wanted I finally just had to let it go. I really enjoyed my time with the Wii and Im not hating on it, it just not my cup of tea so to speak. I just kinda grew tired of the motin controls and when Smash Bros online modes turned out horrible I just kinda wanted to move on to a HD system. When me and my wife have children we will definately raise our kids on Nintendo products just as I was, Im really happy with my PS3 and I really just dont have the time for two consoles. The Wii is a great system and people hating on it have issues with theirself not the system.

@slapshot82: I praise you for giving good reasons not to play the Wii. Honestly I don't see many people doing that. Hope your kids have fun with Nintendo like I did

Nintendo didn't abandoned the "hardcores". They already abandoned Nintendo. And Nintendo is doing just fine without those cry babies.

with that said, I think that the Nintendo hardcores is not very different from the Xbox and PS ones. They are as well as blind and think that their favorite company is their mother or something and they forget that this is a business no charity. So yeah, sometimes I hate the Nintendo hardcore base as well as the XBX and PS ones.

Well if you mean the hardcore as in fanboys...i hate them....and if im honest..i hate EVERY fanboy.
However if you mean hardcore as in the Nintendo fans who buy mercherndise and have BIG game collections then i like them.

...ugh....i already hate the PS3 cuz of one bloody Sony fanboy who keeps saying the 360 and Wii suck. he makes no sense and i always pwn him in our discussions.

I was a bit worried about the lack of hardcore games on the wii but I didn't care after that because of something most fanboys seem to forget. THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF GAMES! I just thought I'd put that piece of wisdom in caps in case any fanboys were about to start whining.

It seems different people are taking the question to mean different things.

Anyway the hardcore that hate or love the wii are often closed minded. The newer nintendo fanboys seem to love everything nintendo and don't care about third party games and actually think gamecube was a great system. Also seem to care mainly about n64 VC over wiiware The older fanboys decry the amount of casual or easier games for the wii and want the "old days" back while saying ps3 and xbox are so much better.

Me, I think the wii is the best nintendo system since the super nintendo. Nintendo 64 had some good games (mario 64 and goldeneye) and nice ideas but didn't have nearly the third party support or variety of previous systems which is why the playstation was overall a much better system. Gamecube didn't bring much to the table and had similar lack of third party support.
The wii however has much better third party support yet the media and hardcore always seem to point at lack of hardcore game sales while ignoring the fact the many devs are actually making sequels to those games or developing other wii games. Yes, there is shovelware on the wii, inferior graphics, stupid friend codes and such but the wii also has a lot to offer and lots of exclusives. While I know the wii isn't perfect I would have skipped out this generation if not for the overall wii library I saw available.

I have been a "gamer" since before I can remember. When I was 5 I was playing freeware PC games and as I grew up I went through the Sega Master System, Gameboy and the SNES before going back to PC gaming and moving away from console gaming and deciding to get a degree in Computing. With the DS and Wii Nintendo have really re-captured my interest in console gaming which to me seemed like, before the Wii and DS, watered down PC gaming experiences that lost the unique "spark" they had back on the SNES.

In 2006 I was convinced, after I saw Mario Kart DS and Brain Training, that Nintendo had a different direction this time and when the DS Lite came out it was a day 1 purchase. Suddenly having an interest again I watched Nintendo's 2006 E3 conference on the then relatively new YouTube and was blown away by Zelda and Mario (they have come a long way since 1998!) and Wii Sports and in general the different overall approach to gaming. I guess what I am trying to say is... I am the very definition of the "returning gamer" Nintendo wanted to attract (but nobody talks about "us" because they care more about the "casuals")

To me its really not surprising that the "hardcore console fanboys" don't like this direction. To them there was nothing wrong with how it was and like any group of people they are making a vocal resistance about it. To make matters worse Nintendo has to be even more prefect than Sony or MS because unlike their consoles most people buy Nintendo's console for Nintendo's games. When something like the Vitality Sensor (which I actually like the idea of) comes up the "hardcore" get annoyed because they see it as taking effort away from "the next Zelda" which needs to be "10000x better looking than the last and have full 1:1 motion and be huge and epic and....".

The truth is that direction will eventually have everyone disappointed and have them leaving like I did. What Nintendo understands is that their job isn't to make "the next Zelda" better than the last one. Their job is to catch "fun" put it in a box and give it to JB HiFi so they can sell it for $79AU so I can open up the box and have my $79AU worth of fun out of it. I tried "10000x better", it got boring... sell me fun

@Iz2009....Thanks for the kind words. I did forget to add one thing and that is I do have access to borrow a Wii anytime. My brother has two and my broinlaw is just like me and hasnt played his in forever. I WILL be borrowing one and buying Muramasa as soon as it comes out.

@skywake..... Man dont get offended by them. Fanboys of anything are like that not just at Nintendo. Honestly the360 toward PS3 are plain out rude. If you enjoy something then play it. That is what gaming is about. Too add one thing to my earlier post is that I also wasnt a little unimpressed with the Gamecube. I literally bought it for Waverace/ 1080/ Smash Bros. Im a old school Nintendo fan and a LOT of people dont understand the concept of that. I have bought like 5 GB games in the last month

@slapshot82: Even thought you sold your Wii, at least you have an excellent point. If you grow tried of the console, just sell it and don't complain about it. I'm glad that you actually made an constructive criticialism, a strength found in Nintendo Life.

Criticalism are always fair and don't bother other people (With the exception of the Virtual Console.).

I was pretty hard on DSiWare but Flipnote is like medicine for the DSi owners soul. So Im better now.

I only dislike those that call themselves hardcore. What do they really want from Nintendo? Personally, if anything, I think this fanbase is holding them back. I admit, I'm a bit of a fanboy, Zelda is my favorite series of all time afterall, but I also love games like WSR and Wii Fit. So many view those games as blasphemy. Why? What makes them so much worse than a Mario? I like Wii, I like the controller, and I even like Miis. I bought Wii for experiences based around the controller, not simply for the next true sequel to Mario 64. Even Miyamoto seems tired of doing the same crap to please their original fanbase. I want more games like Z&W, BBBP, Order Up!, and even Warioware as that's what the Wii is best at, not brawler or non-motion action games 'cough' Conduit 'cough' Smash Bros. 'cough'.

Wow that's pretty deep. You've earned my respect at the very least. It's cool you didn't rant; "Wii sucks! Thank god I own a PS3."

I wouldnt exactly call anything Nintendo does as crap. Galaxy is one of the best video games to grace any console and is the only reason I was holding onto my Wii. Mario 64 is my favorite game of ALL time. Not only was it ground breaking back then its still just as fun today.

The claim that they are tired of sequels is just calculated PR. They wouldn't be making Galaxy 2 if they were tired of it. I think Nintendo is doing a good job of mixing up originals and sequels this generation in contrast with the last, though I do think they could favor originals more, given the age of their very long running series, and the release schedule this year has been pretty slow compared to previous years. I pretty much share Slappybag's opinion of it, though I'll never let go of the Wii due to way too many VC games and the impending flood of WiiWare awesomeness that is Nicalis. For the first time ever I'm looking forward to third-party games on a Nintendo system more than first-party ones, not that that's necessarily bad.

@slapshot
Yeah, I went on a bit of a rant there so there would be a lot of misunderstanding so let me try and clarify. 1st off, SMG is my favorite Wii game period. I just like the games that just go crazy when thinking outside the box more. Games like WSR, Wii Fit, Boom Blox, Excitebots, etc. They all focused on finely tuned motion control and that, imo, is what the Wii is all about. There are great traditional games too, but I like to see what a dev can do when they really push themselves to think outside of the proverbial box.

When I mentioned Miyamoto, I noticed in interviews when he's asked about the next Mario or Zelda his answers come off as a bit flat or boring. When asked about one of his newer properties like Wii Fit he can go on and on about the games. Otherwise he usually just discusses the difficulty of balancing a Mario/Zelda game for all audiences without ever saying anything interesting.

I am extremely confused. Can somebody explain the words "hardcore" and "fanboy."

After last E3, no one should complain, EVER.

Damn that Vitality Sensor! Nintendo has forgotten teh hardcorez and is now dead to me. Why did they give Metroid to a company known mostly for fan service. Ugh, NSMB being 2d? Get with the times Nintendo. What's this, it's multiplayer? I'm used to playing by myself and it's not even online? Nintendo why do you treat us this way? And what's with the Facebook crap? No one cares about DSi.

If you haven't figured it out, j/k

@WhoKnew..... Hardcore used to mean gamers that liked games with very high difficulties and/or RPGs and would literally play the games to death and back again. You didnt play the games you literally pawned them. Like being able to beat the original Contra on NES without dying.
....... Fanboy is a person that is over outspoken about their console/company of choice and goes on long rants about everything that isnt on their console. Example (The PS3 sucks because the online is F..... Horrible and Uncharted is the Worst game Ive ever played before) That is how a fanboy talks. They usually cant even have a decent conversation about anything negative with their console of choice. No company is perfect and they really dont ever seem to understand that at all.