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OldBoy

Ok I'd never heard of this novel before the film came out but after watching that (which I thought was a great movie) I decided to buy the graphic novel. WOW, having never read one before I've gotta say I'm impressed it rivals a 'proper book' any day. I really enjoyed it it had so much detail and stuff like the comic within a comic (tales of the black freighter) was just brilliant. So I now wanna read some more graphic novels ,so can anyone recommend any that are of similar quality.I've been looking at V for Vendetta (by the same author) has anyone read this?
Also for those that have read the novel and seen the movie what did you think of it.Personally I thought it was a really good interpretation of the book considering the amount of stuff that happens ,I really enjoyed it.

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A-SWE

Watchmen is really one of the most depressing things ive ever read, but also one of the best things ive read. Still havent seen the movie but im planning to.

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Vendetta

I can recommend on good authority that you read V for Vendetta.

EDIT: ...and avoid the movie.

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OldBoy

Vendetta wrote:

I can recommend on good authority that you read V for Vendetta.

Well I wouldn't expect anything less from the man himself . I think I will try that one next then. Ta. Any other suggestions anyone?

EDIT : Well I've seen the movie and thought it was ok. I take it the novel's far superior (as is usually the case).

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Slapshot

I read the Watchman year back and its THE best graphic novel Ive put my hands on. The movie is such a perfect translation of the novel its insane. I enjoyed every minute of the two times Ive sat thu the movie and will again in the future. Oh the BlueRay Watcmen disc has the Directors Cut wich is about 30 minutes longer than the others and all a LOT to the theatrical version on the movie. I highly recommend picking it up.

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Nanaki

I actually watched the film for the first time last night. I was genuinely impressed. I am not much of a film person myself (I'm more often than not too engrossed in a book, or watching reruns of old TV shows to ever really see something new). Glad I did with Watchmen. I thought it was a great story, and not full of the clichés most Superhero (if they can really be called that) movies possess - and when they did have the clichés, it was usually in a parody. Class!

I think I'll track down these graphic novels, see if I can get into them. Do they add value to the film, or are they essentially the whole basis of the story and not much new contained within?

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OldBoy

@Nanaki Get the graphic novel!! It's well worth it if enjoyed the movie so much, it really adds quite a few little things to the story especially the Tales of the black freighter bits.Also between each chapter there is 'fake' newspaper articles,interviews and such like that agian really add to the whole thing. Get it. I managed to pick an original second printing off ebay for £4.

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The_Fox

I liked both the film and the graphic novel. If you have time, listen to Micheal Savage's (whom I usually don't pay any attention to) apeshit crazy take on the film. He's either insane or was high the whole time.

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You didn't like the V for Vendetta movie!? Surprising, considering your avatar (and user name). Then again, I never read the graphic novel behind it, so I don't know how true it actually is to the source material.

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OldBoy

@The Fox. Thanks dude I'll check that out ,never heard of the geezer though, who is he?

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irken004

Watchmen is a great book and movie. I prefer the Motion-comic myself, but either way they are all fantastic!

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@The Fox. Thanks dude I'll check that out ,never heard of the geezer though, who is he?

He's a syndicated radio commentator in the U.S whom skews politically to the right, which is why I usually don't listen to him. I got his rant about The Watchmen emailed to me by a friend, and wow. So much crazy.

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OldBoy

irken004 wrote:

Watchmen is a great book and movie. I prefer the Motion-comic myself, but either way they are all fantastic!

Huh what!!!!!.There's a motion comic? OMG I'm off to find it..........

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OldBoy

@The_Fox Ahh ok. I'll try and find it sometime ,sounds 'fun'

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OldBoy

Any other suggestions/thoughts anyone I'm gonna order something in a bit?

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Vendetta

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@Vendetta: You didn't like the V for Vendetta movie!? Surprising, considering your avatar (and user name). Then again, I never read the graphic novel behind it, so I don't know how true it actually is to the source material.

I've been around long before the movie. In fact, I've had this ID on AOL for more than 15 years... long before people started having to add numbers to their screen names. The movie is actually better than my post would make it sound. The first viewing is a letdown in relation to the novel, but the second viewing is better than your disappointment from the first viewing would have you remember.

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Sean_Aaron

I think you're pretty safe with most of Alan Moore's stuff. The ABC line is all good (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Top 10 are both full to bursting with Alan's amusing little references in background art -- again, avoid the film of LoEG like the plague that it is!) as is his re-imagining of Swap Thing which is what put him on the map in the USA.

If you can afford it, Miracleman (nee Marvelman) is quite excellent as is his take on Supreme -- in fact if you read Miracleman - Supreme - Tom Strong you can see the evolution of his take on the super-hero comic as mythology. All three are very worthy. Also worth checking out is the Judgment Day (sic) story set in the same universe as Supreme and other Rob Liefeld characters (Image?) to skewer the ultra-violent "super-hero" that that comic line promoted.

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hansolo350

I think you should read Batman: The Killing Joke which is also done by Alan Moore.

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OldBoy

@Sean_Aaron Thanks for the recommendations I'll check them all out eventually. I did look at LOEG but the film kinda put me off but now I know that the novels are better I might try one of those as well.

@hansolo350 - Thanks dude ,didn't know he'd done a Batman one, I'll try and find that also at some point.

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tylero09

I saw the Watchmen film a couple of weeks back for the first time and it was brilliant, I really need to pick up the graphic novel at some point

@Luigi78 £4 you say? You just sweetened the deal

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Philip_J_Reed

Love me some Watchmen. The only thing I really disliked about the comic was a certain aspect of the ending (won't spoil it for anyone), and, fortunately, that was one of the major changes they made with the film. So...bonus!

I thought the film was excellent. I had a few issues with it, but no more than I have with any film, and considering the source material, they did a great job striking the balance between respectful adaptation and essential changes. Heck, I even loved the sex scene, which a lot of people thought was pretty awful. There were giggles when I saw it in the theater, even among my friends, but I thought it was awkardly beautiful, and perfectly scored. (Will you ever hear Hallelujah the same way again?)

Also, the first time I saw Dan Dreiberg in the film, I could not believe how perfect the casting was. He looked like he stepped right off the page and into the movie. Usually I don't care too much about physical appearance when casting an adaptation (I can get over a change in hair color or body style, whereas I can't get over bad acting), but this was just phenomenal. He did a great job with the character, too.

I just wish we got to see the end of the "Hollis story" in the film, though. It was the most heartbreaking moment of the graphic novel for me, and its absence really leaves a hole in the emotional thrust of the film.

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