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The game that split the Metroid fanbase.

I already banned that one from entry. Having a bad story & voice acting does not qualify it as bad, let alone among the worst games of all time.

Uninteresting storyline, terrible dialogue, poor voice acting, absent music, repetitive gameplay, lack of exploration, lack of new power ups, boring setting, mute bosses and bad pacing do, however, make it a terrible game.

This is an opinion based topic that asks for opinions. Coming in here and banning certain games from being mentioned is unfair and arrogant. I, for one, would honestly list Other M as a terrible game just like many others would as well.

Hmm. I like this argument. It seems that it's very controversial how good of a game Other M is.

Is it just me, or does it seem that Team Ninja has made multiple games of questionable quality?

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It's not Team Ninja's fault Sakamoto can't develop a decent game to branch two storylines together.

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...So you're arguing that it having a bad story DOES make it bad, let alone one of the worst games of all time?

I can't comprehend that.
The gameplay in that game was amazing in it's own right, the atmosphere was equally if not even more unsettling than past entries.
The things that MADE IT A METROID TITLE where all there and solid. It added new elements that were disliked, but people like hating on the entire thing because of those.
At the VERY least it can be mediocre as a game, but calling it bad is... wrong.

Sonic 06 got bashed for its story as much as its glitchy controls.

Didn't you read the part where I said I liked the gameplay? Or the part where I said the game would be good if the cutscenes were non-existant? It is Metroid when the cutscenes aren't occuring. At least in Prime 3 the cutscenes were used sparingly and Samus was in-character (silence is golden). It felt like the Samus you'd play as wasn't the same as the one in the cutscenes. But I personally felt betrayed playing the game, I looked forward to it after the E3 '09 teaser, I preordered it, etc. its more of a personal hatred.

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Yeah, Metriod: Other M is a game that works. I'm sure it runs just fine and doesn't have game-breaking glitches. I'm sure it's not incredibly boring, either. Therefore, it doesn't belong in the same discussion with the likes of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Ninjabread Man, or CD-i games.

Then this thread would be boring if everyone listed the games EVERYONE knows is already bad.

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...So you're arguing that it having a bad story DOES make it bad, let alone one of the worst games of all time?

I can't comprehend that.
The gameplay in that game was amazing in it's own right, the atmosphere was equally if not even more unsettling than past entries.
The things that MADE IT A METROID TITLE where all there and solid. It added new elements that were disliked, but people like hating on the entire thing because of those.
At the VERY least it can be mediocre as a game, but calling it bad is... wrong.

Sonic 06 got bashed for its story as much as its glitchy controls.

Didn't you read the part where I said I liked the gameplay? Or the part where I said the game would be good if the cutscenes were non-existant? It is Metroid when the cutscenes aren't occuring.

Oh, sorry no, I didn't see your edit.
Regarding Sonic 06, the thing is, the story wasn't the sole cause of the game being bad. If the game could function properly and had that story, I doubt it'd still be on this list.

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Uninteresting storyline, terrible dialogue, poor voice acting, absent music, repetitive gameplay, lack of exploration, lack of new power ups, boring setting, mute bosses and bad pacing do, however, make it a terrible game.

I'd agree with it being thought as "terrible" for the franchise, but what of these flaws make it something regarding the same as these games that were either so broken or so poorly made that everything about them can be counted as a flaw?
Metroid could have crushed and thrown out every expectation you had for it, but the game was not made badly. At least, not in the sense of these games.

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It may not be broken like Red Steel, but like Red Steel, it's painful to play considering its terrible pacing and multiple other mediocre aspects. It all adds up to a terrible game. Whether you wholeheartedly agree or not.

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Again its a matter of opinion of what each and every one of us thinks is bad. To some its bad programing and game design, but to others like me and Chrono_Cross, its more of how the game franchise was treated when making the game.

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It may not be broken like Red Steel, but like Red Steel, it's painful to play considering its terrible pacing and multiple other mediocre aspects. It all adds up to a terrible game. Whether you wholeheartedly agree or not.

So is this argument basically 'whether or not a whole bunch of mediocrity put together equals something terrible or it equals something mediocre'?
Because If that's the case I'll understand and accept your argument, since there's no way either of us are going anywhere productive arguing that.

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When a franchise has a certain standard to meet, and the entirety of the game is everything below average, it's terrible. Most of Other M's aspects are absolutely terrible and it sincerely compliments the rest of the game in the utmost negative way.

Also, I'm not sure who said it, but someone said Twilight Princess was the Other M of the Legend of Zelda series. That's the biggest lie I've heard on the internet in a long time.

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I'd say it was the CD-i games, but that's not very analogous to what Other M was supposed to be.

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I'd say it was the CD-i game, but that's not very analogous to what Other M was supposed to be.

In many ways Other M is the equvalent of the CDi Zelda games. A mess and a mockery of the high profile franchise its based on.

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@Cactus_Cross
I'd rather not have this continue into another of your famous disagreements, so let's just drop it.
Metroid Other M is one of the worst games ever created and is as just as terrible as every one of these games, and just as broken as well. The developers of this game should be ashamed of how poorly they made a game.
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IMetroid Other M is one of the worst games ever created and is as just as terrible as every one of these games, and just as broken as well. The developers of this game should be ashamed of how poorly they made a game.
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You don't need to agree with us if you feel differently, but there are thousands of other games out there that are deemed horrible for more that just being shovelware.

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Also: Metroid: Other M is banned from being eligible due to it being a good game.

And next time a topic of this sort ever comes up again, don't pull one of your famous "know-it-all" stunts like this one. It's uncalled-for.

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@Austroid
My "agreeing with you" was just being me trying to show how ridiculous it was... but never mind.

Okay look, you can say Metroid Other M is horrible, okay? You can believe that. I was never not fine with that. But how is it one of the worst games of all time? How does every single aspect off it fill you with rage? Because from your comments you seem to have enjoyed the parts that weren't cutscenes. But those alone pushed it into the group of worst games of all time?
I simply can not comprehend this so I will stop trying.

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Okay. I'm sorry. Did I need to have been here a certain amount of time before I can make statements that exist only to bug people who think otherwise? It seems to occur often in some other threads. If that is the case, I'll refrain from doing it until I can be completely certain no one will take it further than just displaying my opinion in a more flashy way.

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I've already explained to you what aspects are full of absolute mediocrity. When combined, develops a terrible game.

Just accept someone else's opinion. It shouldn't keep you up at night.

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Metroid Other M is not a good game, but it is far from being the worst game of all time..

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My "agreeing with you" was just being me trying to show how ridiculous it was... but never mind.

Okay look, you can say Metroid Other M is horrible, okay? You can believe that. I was never not fine with that. But how is it one of the worst games of all time? How does every single aspect off it fill you with rage? Because from your comments you seem to have enjoyed the parts that weren't cutscenes. But those alone pushed it into the group of worst games of all time?
I simply can not comprehend this so I will stop trying.

It perminately damaged a near-perfect franchise's image. The Zelda CD-i games were from the mid 90s, and are now looked at being "so bad they're good." But this is the series's most recent game, who knows what will become of it now. Sure Miyamoto says he wants to make a Wii U entry, but we don't know when that'll be, and until then Other M's bad taste will still be in our mouths.

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This is an opinion based topic that asks for opinions. Coming in here and banning certain games from being mentioned is unfair and arrogant. I, for one, would honestly list Other M as a terrible game just like many others would as well.

Um, no it's not:

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What are the worst games of all time?
We're not just talking bad, these are bad among the bad. The worst of the worst.
It can't just be bad in your opinion, either; it has to be considered bad by the general gaming community.

As you can see, he's specifically asking for a majority rules class of games. Other M is not among those games if you look at the reviews and user responses.

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My "agreeing with you" was just being me trying to show how ridiculous it was... but never mind.

Okay look, you can say Metroid Other M is horrible, okay? You can believe that. I was never not fine with that. But how is it one of the worst games of all time? How does every single aspect off it fill you with rage? Because from your comments you seem to have enjoyed the parts that weren't cutscenes. But those alone pushed it into the group of worst games of all time?
I simply can not comprehend this so I will stop trying.

It perminately damaged a near-perfect franchise's image. The Zelda CD-i games were from the mid 90s, and are now looked at being "so bad they're good." But this is the series's most recent game, who knows what will become of it now. Sure Miyamoto says he wants to make a Wii U entry, but we don't know when that'll be, and until then Other M's bad taste will still be in our mouths.

I understand that. I realize it tainted the image of Metroid for you and tainted your expectations. I understand that. I can understand that you find it terrible, an awful game. But I do not understand how someone can condemn it to the same place of these games that literally do not function as games should.
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...No. ...Wait...I...I do understand. There are times when something upsets us so much that we hate it so much that we consider it the worst of the worst.
I... get it now. I don't agree, but that doesn't matter.

What does matter is that Final Fantasy: All the Bravest Belongs on this list.

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@TysonOfTime All the Bravest isn't a game. It's a fireworks display. It's that simple.

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