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HobbitGamer

I only bought Captain Toad on Switch, but I did play the 3DS demo and loved it. Very charming and fun. I was glued to it on my Switch. I hope they'll eventually make another.

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Vinny

Just beat Captain Toad right now! Wingo is frickin dead.
Time to enjoy the extra Odyssey levels!

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Tyranexx

@Octane, @NEStalgia: Sooooo I had a reply earlier all nicely typed out and proofread, but then the site decided to log me out for some unknown reason when I hit the reply button. Goodbye post!

Anyway, thanks for explaining everything in a nutshell. I can easily understand why so many are irritated with the game and Bethesda to say the least. It does indeed read like it was more of a cashgrab made to buy into the popularity of the Battle Royale genre right now. I'd probably feel the same if this was done to a franchise that I love and enjoy.

I've been told that I'd like the Fallout series; the primary reason why I've never played any of the games is because I've never owned any of the platforms that they're on (Minus PC, but I barely game on one these days, plus my laptop likely couldn't run much besides older indie titles at optional settings). I had a passing interest in Fallout 4 at one point but Noped away from it. It seems like I'd be more interested in the older entries though.

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HobbitGamer

Wasn’t Wasteland done by some of the team from Fallout 1?

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RedderRugfish

Guess I should finally join in on the username changing trend

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RedderRugfish

I hate it already. I want my h back. Only 90 more days...

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@Blitzenexx @JackEatsSparrows Yeah, Interplay/Black Isle was founded by Brian Fargo, and he's also the original creator of both Wasteland and Fallout. Technically Fallout was intended as Wasteland 2, or a reboot of Wasteland. Long story short there were venture capitalists, hostile takeovers, Interplay was run into the ground, and the VCs threw Brian out. He used to call himself the "Interplay CEO in Exile" which became the root of his new company: inExile (it's funny to call inExile an "indie" when it was owned by the guy that used to own one of the big 5 publisher-studios. That's exactly as if Trip Hawkins (EA founder) were to start a new company and everyone calls him "indie" ) Anyway, that means Wasteland 2 is technically more or less Fallout 3, going by the original Interplay releases Meanwhile Obsidian (Feargus Urquhart's company, he's the other half of Fallout's creation, and a lot of the Black Isle staff went there and have been cranking out RPGs, including doing the contract for Fallout 3: New Vegas for Bethesda. And last month they announced The Outer Worlds, which they're hinting to be the reformation of the "real" Fallout as a new IP set in the 60's rather than the 50's..... That will be their last multiplat. Both Obsidian and inExile were announced to be purchased by Microsoft at XO18 in November, so both halves of the original Interplay/Black Isle team (minus Chris Taylor) are now going to be united (but seperate, apparently) under the Microsoft banner, and will be probably making XBox/PC games only from now on (which isn't so bad, Interplay was mostly PC to begin with....) Though I suspect Obsidian will be put to work on the rumored Fable 4. Can't think of anyone else that can pick up where Lionhead left off.

@Blitzenexx As for getting into Fallout, the question is "which" Fallout. FO 1 & 2 under Interplay/Black Isle were completely different games than Bethesda's hack job of 3, 4, and 76. There's the obvious difference that 1 & 2 were isometric mouse-driven heavy PC CRPGS with turn based combat while 3/4/76 are 3D games....basically "Apocalyptic Elder Scrolls." But there's also a huge difference in theme. Bethesda either missed the entire point of Fallout, or they never cared. The tone is different. 1 & 2 are not apocalyptic survival games lost in the wastes, any more than Fantasy Life is a game about dungeons. The wastes exist, but the game theme, tone, etc, is not about the ruins. The game is mostly a tongue in cheek pastiche. It's about the Wild West reborn due to nuclear fallout, crazy human behavior in the reformed society, messed up human priorities, government experimentation, and secrative soldiers in black power armor in black helicopters in a place where tech was supposedly lost. In Fallout 1 there's a prominent group of this cult that worships technology....they have big LCD screens everywhere in these wasteland towns "spreading the word" and saloon towns. Fallout 2 has all kinds of crazy places ranging from a proper 50's suburb (thanks to the game's Mcguffin the "Garden of Eden Creation Kit"), black helicopters, a hydrogen powered future car, and, this one kind of signifies the tone of the games: the porn studio in one town. In the middle of radioactive wastes, what's the first thing humans rebuild in one horse towns? Porn studios complete with cameras........ because of course. That's the kind of tongue in cheek stuff Fallout is about.

Then Bethesda gets it and turns it into a series about the most photo-realistic depiction of post-nuclear horror you can find, where you spend half your time in the wastes exploring the ruins of decaying abandoned 50's houses and empty playgrounds with traces of what once was. It gets it's thrills from basically being depressing and living in the echoes of a lost and ruined past....which IMO has nothing at all to do with Fallout which is more about "wow humanity is so effed up....even rebuilding after complete disaster, we still manage to get it all wrong through greed and power struggles!" FO3 has hints of the former themes. Nuke Town, and the messed up mutant infested DC. New Vegas is Obsidian, not Bethesda so it's actually proper feeling. And then 4 just went deeper and deeper into the wastes with no life (at least there's still towns and NPCs though!) And now 76 removed the humans entirely so it's just a survival simulator in a joyless world. If you like apocalyptic survival, Bethesda's games are the way to go. If you like "reborn wild west in the atomic age" 1 & 2 (and 3: New Vegas) would be much more for you. 1 hasn't aged well in combat, but the story is memorable and timeless. And you could run it on even the shoddiest of laptops. It's a 2D pre-rendered game from the mid 90's, even a budget phone runs circles around top of the line PCs of the era.

It's not even Battle Royale with 76...there's no reward for killing players, and there's tons of punishment. It's like an MMO that never committed to being an MMO, but doesn't include real single player content, but also doesn't include group events. Ironically TES:O is a real MMO with group events and they're all optional, and most players ignore them and do the, like, 150 hours of solo content that just happens to have 20 other players running past you while you play and occasionally helping take out tough enemies..... That's the sad thing, there's really no excuse for 76 to be so awful.....the template to follow already exists from their own company! Of course TES:O uses it's own engine, not that disastrous Gamebryo mutant abomination they have id toiling away on.

@ReaderRagfihs Wow. You've really got me in the holiday spirit with that name. I would never have known it was you if you hadn't said so. Well done. Also note that I will tag you wrong in every single thread for 90 days.

EDIT: Note that Fallout/Wasteland was inspired by Mad Max, and it has a very Mad Max vibe overall. Bethesda Fallout games don't have any feel of that at all. Personally as far as 3D games go, I feel more like I'm in the Fallout world when I play the Mad Max game than the Bethesda Fallout games.

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RedderRugfish

@Delibheel Oh, you sneaky little goose! I don't know if this is better or worse than before. ReaderRagfis VS ReaderRagfihs.

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RedderRugfish

@Delibheel Oh wow, that's kinda sad. One of the few gaming Youtube channels I would enjoy.

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Vinny

The extra 4 Odyssey levels from Captain Toad 3DS were nice. I really enjoyed the time I spent with this game!

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HobbitGamer

@Octane No way. Is that Red Rocket sign really $14??

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gcunit

I'm gutted. Years ago my Wii disc drive stopped reading discs, so I ordered a replacement lens for it, but beyond removing a couple of screws I never got round to carrying out the replacement.

Fast forward to now and I want to rip some Gamecube discs to install them on my Wii U, but my current PC DVD drive can't read Gamecube discs, so I finally dig out that lens I've kept track of all these years and get down to stripping my original Wii to make the repair.

But it hasn't worked. The drive takes the disc and you hear it start to fire up (presumably the laser) but the drive never starts spinning. And I don't know if that's because I've reassembled it incorrectly, damaged something, or just that the placement lens I got was a duff one.

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Vinny

The Vita seems to be a goldmine of indie metroidvania titles.

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