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tendoboy1984 wrote:

The Vita looks fine. It's really not as big as the pictures make it look. It's around the same size as the PSP-1000 (the original model).

Which was way to big for a portable in the first place IMO. I never carried my PSP with me anywhere. The DS always took it's place since it was smaller.

But if they made one like this that'd be amazing for me.

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WaltzElf wrote:

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I didn't realize that the economy in Europe was worse than ours. Still, Sony would see more potential profit if they released this worldwide. The PSP could use some market growth, and for Sony to limit this to one territory doesn't do them any favors.

No. That's the same ridiculous falacy that the twits behind Project Rainbow got behind. Not every product belongs in every marketplace. It's expensive to launch something in a market, and you don't just do it because it's done somewhere else in the world.

Greem Tea-flavored Kit Kat? (barfs)

Point proven.

(It's actually nice).

But Sony would be making less money by doing a regional release. Did Nintendo market the DS Lite only in Japan? Did Microsoft only market the Xbox 360 in America? No. In Microsoft's case, they tried to get a foothold in Japan, but they failed. It's better to try and fail, then not try at all. You learn from your mistakes that way.

Hypothetically, what if the Xbox 360 was a success in Japan? If Microsoft ignored that market, then they'd never get that chance to find out.

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But Sony would be making less money by doing a regional release. Did Nintendo market the DS Lite only in Japan? Did Microsoft only market the Xbox 360 in America? No. In Microsoft's case, they tried to get a foothold in Japan, but they failed. It's better to try and fail, then not try at all. You learn from your mistakes that way.

Um, not if it costs more to launch a new console in a region than the money they'd make back from it. Then no, they would not be making less money by doing a regional release.

And "it's better to try and fail, then not try at all," is easier said than done when you're responsible for the livlihood of a few thousand employees.

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y2josh

This is no comparison to a DS Lite. Look to the PSP 3000 for that comparison.

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WaltzElf wrote:

But Sony would be making less money by doing a regional release. Did Nintendo market the DS Lite only in Japan? Did Microsoft only market the Xbox 360 in America? No. In Microsoft's case, they tried to get a foothold in Japan, but they failed. It's better to try and fail, then not try at all. You learn from your mistakes that way.

Um, not if it costs more to launch a new console in a region than the money they'd make back from it.

And "it's better to try and fail, then not try at all," is easier said than done when you're responsible for the livlihood of a few thousand employees.

If all companies followed your advice we wouldn't have any advances in the global market. Globalization exists for a reason.

What if Toyota and Honda ignored the US market? What if Samsung stayed in Korea? What if Volkswagen never marketed the Beetle outside of Germany?

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@tendoboy
Uhh...all of your examples are of extremely broad things, not budget systems. Specifically, the DS Lite was a necessary revision of the original DS and the 360 is a major player in the market. This is the fifth (technically sixth) model of the PSP, not the first or second (nor is it early in the system's lifespan like the other examples). I fail to see how this is comparable to first gen/second gen consoles, let alone anime and manga. Just saying.

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tendoboy1984 wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

But Sony would be making less money by doing a regional release. Did Nintendo market the DS Lite only in Japan? Did Microsoft only market the Xbox 360 in America? No. In Microsoft's case, they tried to get a foothold in Japan, but they failed. It's better to try and fail, then not try at all. You learn from your mistakes that way.

Um, not if it costs more to launch a new console in a region than the money they'd make back from it.

And "it's better to try and fail, then not try at all," is easier said than done when you're responsible for the livlihood of a few thousand employees.

If all companies followed your advice we wouldn't have any advances in the global market. Globalization exists for a reason.

What if Toyota and Honda ignored the US market? What if Samsung stayed in Korea? What if Volkswagen never marketed the Beetle outside of Germany?

Then where is my damned Green Tea Kit Kat?!?!?

I don't know why this is such a hard concept to grasp for you, but not every product suits every market in the world. Business is not a kid's game of pin the tail on the donkey, however much you'd like it to be. Sony would have done its due diligance. And that due diligance would have said "Europe, ok. America, no."

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Weskerb

Why is the PSP hated so much in America?

It's got a nice big screen, all the buttons you need, a long battery life, it's got Sony behind it, paying some of the most talented devs to make games for it, which are cheap!

I'm glad they're not releasing this budget version in USA, because clearly Americans don't like good handlheld games consoles.

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billy-beauts wrote:

Why is the PSP hated so much in America?

It's got a nice big screen, all the buttons you need, a long battery life, it's got Sony behind it, paying some of the most talented devs to make games for it, which are cheap!

I'm glad they're not releasing this budget version in USA, because clearly Americans that are core gamers don't like good handlheld games consoles.

I ask myself this all the time. And handheld gaming is a much bigger deal in Japan, since more people travel by public transit (trains mostly).

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WaltzElf wrote:

tendoboy1984 wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

But Sony would be making less money by doing a regional release. Did Nintendo market the DS Lite only in Japan? Did Microsoft only market the Xbox 360 in America? No. In Microsoft's case, they tried to get a foothold in Japan, but they failed. It's better to try and fail, then not try at all. You learn from your mistakes that way.

Um, not if it costs more to launch a new console in a region than the money they'd make back from it.

And "it's better to try and fail, then not try at all," is easier said than done when you're responsible for the livlihood of a few thousand employees.

If all companies followed your advice we wouldn't have any advances in the global market. Globalization exists for a reason.

What if Toyota and Honda ignored the US market? What if Samsung stayed in Korea? What if Volkswagen never marketed the Beetle outside of Germany?

Then where is my damned Green Tea Kit Kat?!?!?

I don't know why this is such a hard concept to grasp for you, but not every product suits every market in the world. Business is not a kid's game of pin the tail on the donkey, however much you'd like it to be. Sony would have done its due diligance. And that due diligance would have said "Europe, ok. America, no."

Food that only certain cultures would appreciate =/= worldwide release of a major electronics product.

And Microsoft kept trying to go after Japan with the Xbox and Xbox 360. Both times they failed, but at least they tried, right?

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abgar wrote:

I'm still trying to buy a PSPgo... I don't need newer models to come and change my mind.

PSP Go isn't worth it. It's very uncomfortable to use, the buttons are too small, the entire thing just feels cramped. Sony basically used a sliding phone design, and that does not work very well in a handheld game system.

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tendoboy1984 wrote:

abgar wrote:

I'm still trying to buy a PSPgo... I don't need newer models to come and change my mind.

PSP Go isn't worth it. It's very uncomfortable to use, the buttons are too small, the entire thing just feels cramped. Sony basically used a sliding phone design, and that does not work very well in a handheld game system.

To you it is. I find it comfortable to use. I also like the sliding phone design.

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tendoboy1984 wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

tendoboy1984 wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

But Sony would be making less money by doing a regional release. Did Nintendo market the DS Lite only in Japan? Did Microsoft only market the Xbox 360 in America? No. In Microsoft's case, they tried to get a foothold in Japan, but they failed. It's better to try and fail, then not try at all. You learn from your mistakes that way.

Um, not if it costs more to launch a new console in a region than the money they'd make back from it.

And "it's better to try and fail, then not try at all," is easier said than done when you're responsible for the livlihood of a few thousand employees.

If all companies followed your advice we wouldn't have any advances in the global market. Globalization exists for a reason.

What if Toyota and Honda ignored the US market? What if Samsung stayed in Korea? What if Volkswagen never marketed the Beetle outside of Germany?

Then where is my damned Green Tea Kit Kat?!?!?

I don't know why this is such a hard concept to grasp for you, but not every product suits every market in the world. Business is not a kid's game of pin the tail on the donkey, however much you'd like it to be. Sony would have done its due diligance. And that due diligance would have said "Europe, ok. America, no."

Food that only certain cultures would appreciate =/= worldwide release of a major electronics product.

And Microsoft kept trying to go after Japan with the Xbox and Xbox 360. Both times they failed, but at least they tried, right?

I think these examples are starting to get a little ridiculous

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turtlelink wrote:

tendoboy1984 wrote:

abgar wrote:

I'm still trying to buy a PSPgo... I don't need newer models to come and change my mind.

PSP Go isn't worth it. It's very uncomfortable to use, the buttons are too small, the entire thing just feels cramped. Sony basically used a sliding phone design, and that does not work very well in a handheld game system.

To you it is. I find it comfortable to use. I also like the sliding phone design.

I have loved the design ever since it was announced... I also own a Xperia Play (and love it), so I think the controls won't bother me.

This new design also looks very sweet (love the finish) but I preffer to download games directly to my PSP than using UMDs.

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The Go was just a bad idea in general. Sony made the bold move far too soon and was aiming at an audience that wasn't very receptive

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billy-beauts wrote:

Why is the PSP hated so much in America?

It's got a nice big screen, all the buttons you need, a long battery life, it's got Sony behind it, paying some of the most talented devs to make games for it, which are cheap!

I'm glad they're not releasing this budget version in USA, because clearly Americans don't like good handlheld games consoles.

Because it ONLY has Sony behind it. Besides a few really good RPG what does the PSP have? The 3rd party support is atrocious. And us Americans do like great handheld systems... They are from Nintendo and they have tons of 3rd party support and fun games.

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Bankai

PSP Go isn't worth it. It's very uncomfortable to use, the buttons are too small, the entire thing just feels cramped. Sony basically used a sliding phone design, and that does not work very well in a handheld game system.

In your opinion. And only in your opinion. My two PSP Gos say it was well worth it.

Food that only certain cultures would appreciate =/= worldwide release of a major electronics product.

We're not talking about a major electronics product. We're talking about the 6th or so version of a major electronics product, and the other five are already available in the US. This is a small scale release clearly designed for one or two markets only.

You want something closer to home? Fine. I'm going to start whining that I can't get Netflix here in Australia (not that I want it any more than you want this new PSP, but this is a mirror of your own attitude I'm going for here). I don't care if it risks the profitability of Netflix, because I would rather they try ever-so-hard, right?

Because business is all about giving awards to people who try. Just like high school sport, really.

I'm sorry if that sounded harsh, but you make the same mistake in each and every one of your threads of treating business like it's a grand high school drama. You clearly don't understand the basic foundations of economics, and yet you keep telling everyone who tries to explain it to you that they're wrong.

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Bankai

GCNSean wrote:

billy-beauts wrote:

Why is the PSP hated so much in America?

It's got a nice big screen, all the buttons you need, a long battery life, it's got Sony behind it, paying some of the most talented devs to make games for it, which are cheap!

I'm glad they're not releasing this budget version in USA, because clearly Americans don't like good handlheld games consoles.

Because it ONLY has Sony behind it. Besides a few really good RPG what does the PSP have? The 3rd party support is atrocious. And us Americans do like great handheld systems... They are from Nintendo and they have tons of 3rd party support and fun games.

Well, there are more Warriors games on the PSP than the DS. And more dating games, if you have access to the Japanese PSN.

The PSP was successful in Japan more than America because it attracted the Japanese 3rd party developers. Most of those games were never translated. The Western support of the PSP was absolutely terrible - with pretty good reason. PSP games didn't sell well in the US, even though the console itself sold ok.

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@tendoboy1984 This is obviously a Nintendo site and I get that, but your examples are far off point and your coming off like a Sony hater and Nintendo fanboy quite hard. And while your making the point that a budget system is ridiculous, then please explain to me why it's not ridiculous that Nintendo is doing the exact same thing with Wii?

Actually, let me give you the answer as I already know it; budget system aren't for everyone, but they are great for those who live on a budget. While you claim that there are only a few good UMD games for PSP, it only shows how little you know about the PSP library. Tell all the British children who's parents are on a tight budget because of the economy that their budget priced PSP along with a full library of extremely cheap, fun games for them to enjoy for the next year or two isn't worth it. Keep up with the industry and you'll find out that the PSP has been selling incredibly well for a longtime lately and this is the perfect time for Sony to drop out a budget titled PSP, just as it's the perfect time for Nintendo to drop out a budget priced Wii.

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