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Starscream

110percentful wrote:

Ok, so now, we come to the main question. Are you a have-the-last-word freak, do you have trouble admitting you're wrong, or are you just so egotistical you think no one else can be right other than you?

No one has proven ANY of my points wrong - so what is your issue?

higher game costs? check
additional game costs? check
uncertain one sided user agreements? check
formating and deleting software when selling a console and getting nothing for it? check.
used games sales gone? check.
transferring software? uncheck - or - who knows? who asks?

More than meets the eye!

Percentful

Starscream wrote:

110percentful wrote:

Ok, so now, we come to the main question. Are you a have-the-last-word freak, do you have trouble admitting you're wrong, or are you just so egotistical you think no one else can be right other than you?

No one has proven ANY of my points wrong - so what is your issue?

higher game costs? check
additional game costs? check
uncertain one sided user agreements? check
formating and deleting software when selling a console and getting nothing for it? check.
used games sales gone? check.
transferring software? uncheck - or - who knows? who asks?

Actually, people have proved your points wrong. You just don't want to accept it.

Just let it happen.

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TKOWL

Starscream wrote:

Hyper+Knuckles wrote:

As Waltz said to you Starscreamer, you have NO CLUE about how DLC has affected the industry in a POSITIVE way.

Tell me, would Mega Man 9 and Mega Man 10 suceeded if they were released on physical format today? Of course not! The game is doing great as a downloadable game. You absolutely make no sense at all, and you never will.

Also, you are trying to tell the NL staff what to do, and you cannot tell them what to do. If you are so concerned about the game industry, become a journalist and start your own anti-digital gaming website, but it will never succeed. What an useless and ridiculous topic.

Megaman would do even better. How did NSMBWii become one of the fastest and biggest selling games of all time???

Lets see 15 million retail sales vs a couple of hundred thousand downlaods? Why is the digital audience so much smaller than the retail one????

Its not like Capcom has had better retail releases on WIi than their digital ones - put your best games in front of the consumer and see what happens. $20 MMans would most CERTAINLY sell - and you know it.

Then why is Mega Man 9 the top-selling WiiWare game?

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Starscream

I notice you did not provide an example. 110%ful

More than meets the eye!

Starscream

Dragoon wrote:

Starscream wrote:

Hyper+Knuckles wrote:

As Waltz said to you Starscreamer, you have NO CLUE about how DLC has affected the industry in a POSITIVE way.

Tell me, would Mega Man 9 and Mega Man 10 suceeded if they were released on physical format today? Of course not! The game is doing great as a downloadable game. You absolutely make no sense at all, and you never will.

Also, you are trying to tell the NL staff what to do, and you cannot tell them what to do. If you are so concerned about the game industry, become a journalist and start your own anti-digital gaming website, but it will never succeed. What an useless and ridiculous topic.

Megaman would do even better. How did NSMBWii become one of the fastest and biggest selling games of all time???

Lets see 15 million retail sales vs a couple of hundred thousand downlaods? Why is the digital audience so much smaller than the retail one????

Its not like Capcom has had better retail releases on WIi than their digital ones - put your best games in front of the consumer and see what happens. $20 MMans would most CERTAINLY sell - and you know it.

Then why is Mega Man 9 the top-selling WiiWare game?

What are you aking? How is that proof that it would not sell even more at retail?

Retail has WAY more customers, and you could actually have a MM9 DISK with a cool manual with cool artwork, and you could, you know, OWN it.

More than meets the eye!

Adam

Starscream wrote:

Yeah I do and I expect it from you as well.

What, are you my mother now? Why would you expect anything from me?

Starscream wrote:

Do you have a problem with asserting your rights with Nintendo and have them guarantee to provide support in the coming years? You should read the one sided end user license agreement - really if you cannot think of a better contract for yourself than that, you should have self esteem classes. [...] Don't you want to be able to KNOW you can play your games in coming years? Don't you want to be treated fairly with a retail purchase and not be nickle and dimed? Don't you want to not play the russian roulette game of the inevitable price hikes with the subscription services?? click click clickty click BANG!

I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as a self-esteem class, but if there is, I'm doing fine, thanks for your concern. Nintendo cannot take my games away from me. Unlike the PS3, Wii DLC does not check online before playing. Unless you expect Mario to break into my house and steal my Wii, I'm afraid you need to put aside the tinfoil hat.

And if you don't like digital content, you know what you could do instead of insulting anyone who doesn't agree with you? Try not downloading it. Just a thought. There is no "Russian roulette" here. If Nintendo were to employ massive price hikes and subscription fees, I would simply stop buying their games. No conspiracy theory necessary. Free will is a useful thing.

Starscream wrote:

Mark my words, soon you will al get burned, badly. And then what you gonna say?

I don't know. "Ow, I'm burnt, how did my Wii just burn me? It doesn't seem to be on fire?" Perhaps? I'll deal with that when the time comes. But as long as I retain the power to buy from them or not, they can't "burn me."

Come on, friends,
To the bear arcades again.

Percentful

Starscream wrote:

Dragoon wrote:

Starscream wrote:

Hyper+Knuckles wrote:

As Waltz said to you Starscreamer, you have NO CLUE about how DLC has affected the industry in a POSITIVE way.

Tell me, would Mega Man 9 and Mega Man 10 suceeded if they were released on physical format today? Of course not! The game is doing great as a downloadable game. You absolutely make no sense at all, and you never will.

Also, you are trying to tell the NL staff what to do, and you cannot tell them what to do. If you are so concerned about the game industry, become a journalist and start your own anti-digital gaming website, but it will never succeed. What an useless and ridiculous topic.

Megaman would do even better. How did NSMBWii become one of the fastest and biggest selling games of all time???

Lets see 15 million retail sales vs a couple of hundred thousand downlaods? Why is the digital audience so much smaller than the retail one????

Its not like Capcom has had better retail releases on WIi than their digital ones - put your best games in front of the consumer and see what happens. $20 MMans would most CERTAINLY sell - and you know it.

Then why is Mega Man 9 the top-selling WiiWare game?

What are you aking? How is that proof that it would not sell even more at retail?

Retail has WAY more customers, and you could actually have a MM9 DISK with a cool manual with cool artwork, and you could, you know, OWN it.

Yeah, and you could, you know, pay 20 dollars more.

Just let it happen.

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Starscream

Link-Hero wrote:

Starscream wrote:

Hyper+Knuckles wrote:

As Waltz said to you Starscreamer, you have NO CLUE about how DLC has affected the industry in a POSITIVE way.

Tell me, would Mega Man 9 and Mega Man 10 suceeded if they were released on physical format today? Of course not! The game is doing great as a downloadable game. You absolutely make no sense at all, and you never will.

Also, you are trying to tell the NL staff what to do, and you cannot tell them what to do. If you are so concerned about the game industry, become a journalist and start your own anti-digital gaming website, but it will never succeed. What an useless and ridiculous topic.

Megaman would do even better. How did NSMBWii become one of the fastest and biggest selling games of all time???

Lets see 15 million retail sales vs a couple of hundred thousand downlaods? Why is the digital audience so much smaller than the retail one????

Its not like Capcom has had better retail releases on WIi than their digital ones - put your best games in front of the consumer and see what happens. $20 MMans would most CERTAINLY sell - and you know it.

Because Mario is about 50x (or more) more popular then Megaman, and there are a lot of people who are turned off by the 8-bit graphics and high diffuculty.

That is a non argument.

Retail is a bigger audience. Many digital buyers do not like NES graphics or 'high' difficulty. Nothing you said justifies it for being a digital game or eliminates it from being a retail release, much less justifying your accepting a terrible contract for 'using' it on digital.

More than meets the eye!

Percentful

I;m noticing a trend... You make a thread with a poorly thought out topic, then you get huffy when people point out how poorly thought out it is or why they disagree, then you start insulting the people who pointed it out. That's a good strategy. I need to try it out sometime.

Just let it happen.

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Bankai

Oh for God’s sake. This kind of mindless ranting irritates me, but whatever. You don’t like digital distribution. That’s great. Don’t get involved in it and have a cry when you run out of new games to play because everyone else has moved to a more sustainable format.

I know business. It’s what I do for a career. As I said in my earlier post, just like how Cloud Computing has helped thousands of businesses get through the economic crisis because it’s cheaper both for the customer and the vendor, digital distribution is better for the gaming industry.

Subscription is a brilliant idea – the people that like the game get more out of it. The people that don’t pay less. DLC is brilliant for the same reason. Digital distribution cuts out a lot of the overheads, allowing small games, like the stuff on DSiWare, to exist. It allows niche titles which would never do well as a retail game to exist. It enables experimentation.

EA is struggling precisely because it has put so much into a retail business that is doomed to failure. That’s why it’s making a move towards digital distribution – that’s why it purchased Facebook game vendor Playfish. Every trend is pointing in that direction, whether it upsets you or not.

Most of the rest of us are mature enough to realise that digital distribution is actually a damn good idea. Personally I can’t wait for OnLive – Cloud based gaming!

Retail is a bigger audience.

Will you stop thinking so simplistically for a second? Just try and see the broader picture.

For niche games (such as retro-style), Retail is far more riskier than digital distribution. Production costs are far higher. The chance that a niche title can break even is lower in retail than through download.

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Knux

Starscream wrote:

Hyper+Knuckles wrote:

As Waltz said to you Starscreamer, you have NO CLUE about how DLC has affected the industry in a POSITIVE way.

Tell me, would Mega Man 9 and Mega Man 10 suceeded if they were released on physical format today? Of course not! The game is doing great as a downloadable game. You absolutely make no sense at all, and you never will.

Also, you are trying to tell the NL staff what to do, and you cannot tell them what to do. If you are so concerned about the game industry, become a journalist and start your own anti-digital gaming website, but it will never succeed. What an useless and ridiculous topic.

Megaman would do even better. How did NSMBWii become one of the fastest and biggest selling games of all time???

Lets see 15 million retail sales vs a couple of hundred thousand downlaods? Why is the digital audience so much smaller than the retail one????

Its not like Capcom has had better retail releases on WIi than their digital ones - put your best games in front of the consumer and see what happens. $20 MMans would most CERTAINLY sell - and you know it.

Hahaha, now THAT was funny! You are saying that an 8 bit Mega Man game released on a disc or DS cart would sell? No, it wouldn't. Unlike NSMBW which appeals to hardcore and casual gamers, the Mega Man games are very hard [but extremely fun, more so than NSMBW] and most casual gamers will not see the appeal of the series. Not to mention, it is cheaper to buy it as a downloadable game. Putting a 8-bit styled game through retail is laughable, much like this topic is. So do yourself a favor and quit making a fool of yourself. Seriously, this topic should have NEVER been made.

Knux

Knux

@Link-Hero-Because he is a troll, and that is what trolls do. I really wish this topic was never made.

Knux

Bankai

Hyper+Knuckles wrote:

@Link-Hero-Because he is a troll, and that is what trolls do. I really wish this topic was never made.

He can't be a troll, trolls generally don't believe what they're saying. I think this guy is honestly deluded into thinking that DLC is an evil Orwellian concept and Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are using it to take control of our souls.

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