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LzWinky

I don't think hype is a bad thing...if it's done right. If a game should get hyped, then show the GAME itself, not cinematics.

Heck, this is probably why Nintendo was so popular this year at e3. They actually showed the games themselves! So in this case, I'd say the hype for the new games is justified. Besides, logically speaking, you need to "hype" to sell a product in some form.

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Chrono_Cross

sinalefa wrote:

@Chrono_Cross

Way to encourage a "a mature, down-to-Earth discussion".

It's mature. Knowing who I trust as a reviewer is none of your business.

You're not asking opinions about the topics at hand. Honestly, I'm not sure why you're so curious.

lz wrote:

If the review is thorough on the game's good points, then I don't see why it can't be nostalgic.

I would rather read a review from a non-biased author than a fan.

Also, you don't have to be a fan to write a thorough review on Pikmkn 3.

To single out gaming journalism is just as foolish. Every form of media is guilty of this crap.

Let's not get off topic.

I don't think anyone here wants to talk about the media. We're all aware of your point.

But honestly, I just want to play my damn games and forget this crap.

I figured it was a perfect fit for a nice discussion.

Sorry if it is bothersome. I'm just sick of this site's userbase being so afraid of discussion. I'm the only one left.

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LzWinky

Don't cherry pick my post. At least quote the rest if you want to make a counter

WaLzgi wrote:

If the review is thorough on the game's good points, then I don't see why it can't be nostalgic. Most of the time, I read reviews on games in franchises I am comfortable with just to see if it holds up to the other games in the franchise. However, I would agree with the point that maybe there should be a separate recommendation for newcomers and nostalgic players.

I actually agreed with you to an extent

WaLzgi wrote:

As for gaming journalism and the gaming industry, I know it's mostly bad and I often discuss this crap they are doing. But honestly, I just want to play my damn games and forget this crap.

To clarify, I don't mind discussing these things. I would just rather not get emotional about them.

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sinalefa

@Chrono_Cross

I am just asking because you make it sound as if the vast majority of videogame websites are bad, so knowing which ones you trust can give us a way of knowing who you think is doing it "right", and I think that relates to the topic. As I mentioned before, I try to read and compare as many reviews as I can, so I always appreciate a different point of view.

I will comment in this thread, never being able to find it again.

LzWinky

I think gamers are guilty too. We eat up so much negativity that we often forget the positives of everything. We want to watch EA burn or Capcom die, but what about the companies who have been good to us?

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Chrono_Cross

Don't cherry pick my post. At least quote the rest if you want to make a counter.

Do you want me to reply to every sentence you typed?

I don't. That's too much considering most of what you wrote isn't, well, constructive. I read you don't care about Phil Fish and Zoe Quinn. I want nothing to do with that, the discussion of other forms of media or Alien Colonial Marines. I dissect the bulk of posts. The important parts. You opened nearly every paragraph with your point and continued to discuss material that has no value to the overall discussion.

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MikeLove

Hype for Nintendo games = great!

The PS4 selling on hype = people are so stupid!

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Chrono_Cross

WaLzgi wrote:

I think gamers are guilty too. We eat up so much negativity that we often forget the positives of everything. We want to watch EA burn or Capcom die, but what about the companies who have been good to us?

I'm just a very negative person.

As negative as I am, I'm not one of the Activsion, EA, Capcom haters. I see no benefits in doing that.

@Chrono_Cross

I am just asking because you make it sound as if the vast majority of videogame websites are bad, so knowing which ones you trust can give us a way of knowing who you think is doing it "right", and I think that relates to the topic. As I mentioned before, I try to read and compare as many reviews as I can, so I always appreciate a different point of view.

Digitally Downloaded is a good site with some great journalists. The site isn't perfect, as it's more niche oriented than mainstream, but I do enjoy the site's content.

I also thoroughly enjoy Adam Kovic when I get around to his reviews. He's very in-depth with his reviews, breaks them down and discusses why the game is fun if it is. Or why it's not. Adam does work for Machinima and he's not fixing anything, sadly. Though, I can't deny he's entertaining.

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unrandomsam

Most of them are gone (Or might as well be). Nintendo is the only one left. (But they have no competition so they are just doing the same thing but easier than last time).

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sinalefa

@Chrono_Cross

Thanks a lot for the reply. I will be sure to check them out, as they are new to me.

I will comment in this thread, never being able to find it again.

turmeric16

Maybe a lot of this hinges on how serious the medium of video games actually is. Is it art? Then perhaps we should demand that critics and reviews be held to higher standards and have a clearer distinction from the machine that profits off of games and hardware. Or are video games something more akin to toys (which is what I think for the most part, which isn't to say games cannot offer us something interesting to think about)? Then perhaps reviews are there just to tell us a game is worth buying, which would also mean I want someone who is biased in the same way I am toward certain games (Nintendo games for instance).

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Jaz007

I don't think hype is a bad thing. I also disagree that sites shouldn't hype games from previews. I like to pre-order games, a few I shouldn't have, but most of the time I'm glad I have. The preview hype is good for people like me who like to do that, if you don't like that way if doing things, then you shouldn't follow anything, but how the game plays until it's reviewed. I think it's easy solution that fits both partys.
I agree the industry follow what people like Phil say too much when it doesn't have anything with a game he's making. I do like to read what people like Yoshida have to say, so I think that's still good journalism.
I think it's fine if someone who already loves a game series reviews a game, partial and unbiased reviews are needed. The former for people who've already played and perhaps like the series already, and the later for those who haven't played it.
I don't think marketing should affect how a journalist writes, and I don't blame marketing for marketing. Marketing will do whatever to market in any industry with any product. I'm not sure the industry would work without marketing too.

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Drawdler

Just personal opinion in this post, not anything objective- I don't pay attention to hype anymore. If a game appeals to me, I'll keep an eye on it. If it's a game I know I'll enjoy a lot, based on the developers' past works, a previous entry in the series, or something else, then I'll let myself get hyped for it.

Despite huge hype, I didn't get that excited for Mario Kart 8. I got back into 7 right before it came out (and still play it a fair amount), so I wasn't exactly starving for more Mario Kart. I might've enjoyed past entries, but already gotten my fill of a series (which is happening with Skylanders). I'll still play the new game then, usually, but I also won't be that excited for it because I have something to make the wait easy. On the flip side I can play a game in a series to death and get really hyped about a new sequel, or play one game in a series and then get excited about it because the sequel seems to fix problems I had with it.

The only games I've been really excited for this year are Smash and Disney Infinity 2. Even if they disappoint me, it's fun getting excited over them pre-release, speculating on them and looking at all the discussion (even if I might not get involved). I agree with the video, though it's also fun to just drown in hype sometimes, and I can personally deal with the occasional disappointment.

If the review is thorough on the game's good points, then I don't see why it can't be nostalgic. Most of the time, I read reviews on games in franchises I am comfortable with just to see if it holds up to the other games in the franchise. However, I would agree with the point that maybe there should be a separate recommendation for newcomers and nostalgic players.

Agreed.

Sometimes I feel like reviewers miss some of the stuff that I think made previous entries great that disappeared or got gimped in a sequel, though. I'll usually keep an eye out for or specifically ask about opinions on those features from other fans. Not really much else I can do.

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cheetahman91

I try and not to get hyped for games anymore. The last few times I did, I usually ended up being disappointed, even if the game itself was pretty solid.

Also, click bait articles aren't completely worthless. At least the comments section is usually entertaining (at least on NL).

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CanisWolfred

Just so we're clear, we're all defining "hyped" as in "getting via external advertising such as previews, commercials, and word of mouth comments", right? I mean, for one thing, I find it hard to believe that so many of you guys don't listens to the opinions of reviewers and other users on this site. Why are you here if you didn't?

I think it's more about how and why you get excited that's the key. I always ignore advertisements and simply take everything people say with a grain of salt. If I see people praise something to the sun, I'm going to keep my ear out for other opinions to see what problems there might be. If I see a trailer I'm going to look for ones with lots of gameplay footage and imagine myself playing it. For instance, here's two trailers of the same game that have two different approaches: The Good One and The Bad One

The first trailer focused on the gameplay, showing off enough to give you a sense of what you'd actually be doing in the game. The second focused too much on the story, while what gameplay they showed focused on the special attacks and not much else.

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