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spizzamarozzi

Batman Arkham Origins - universally panned for being a stopgap, I thought it was the best in the original trilogy. Better story, better open world structure, better everything.

Fallout 3 - when this game was released, it was considered phenomenal. Then the invasion of the nerds happened, and all of a sudden it was considered a videogame for people with low I.Q. Then New Vegas came out and all the nerds went "See? That's what smart people play, cos you can make real choices in this game!!". As it stands, Fallout 3 is a very good action game, Fallout New Vegas is a bad sci-fi book.

Shenmue - it's not just about talking to sailors. And it's not GTA. Not Harvest Moon either. It's its own thing. And if you don't get it, then you don't deserve it.

Space Giraffe - strongly criticised for its trippy visuals, I thought it was one of the greatest and purest videogames I ever played, and if I had to pick 10 desert island games, this would be the space shooter I want to play for eternity.

There have to be more but can't think of any at the moment. This is a hobby where people tend to overlove rather than overhate anyway.

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roy130390

@Knighty_IX Your criticism is quite fair mate. You are right about Megaman Zero having a better story, since even if the ZX games were left on a cliffhanger, the Zero games were solid in that aspect since the first entry. The awful voice acting didn't help too haha.

I do think that the open world made the game better, but I definitely see why Megaman ZX left you a sour taste haha. More than anything, I always enjoyed that Megaman Zero had a similar aspect (if I remind correctly, or maybe it was one of the sequels) and I really wanted to see more open world exploration return, and when I also found out that you could actually get the armors and power (and not just a small bit of it) I was pretty much sold out since that was something I wanted to have since I played Megaman X and saw how awesome Storm Eagle looked.

I also agree about the transformation being better in ZX since I actually liked more the idea of getting the armor combined than turning completely into the enemy you just defeated, but I did enjoy the idea of having way more transformations than in the last game and more of them were quite fun to try in different misions. Some of them are quite limited in movement though.

If they would have implemented the idea of getting the armor adjusted to the main character's movement to give him more mobility instead of limiting it with some models, it would have been perfect for me. Fortunately, at least the original biometals ( H,F,L and P if I remember correctly) did offer good mobility and different abiities, but they definitely had room to improve. H and P not so much, they were pretty much perfect for me the way they were made haha.

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Other M, ME: A (It was fine for what it was) , The ENDING of ME3 (the series had more problems, LONG before you beat 3).

Agreed with @spizzamarozzi on the Fallout 3 hate. No it wasn't interplay's fallout but it wasn't bad for resurrecting a game franchise and slapping a whole new genre on it. (Didn't like 4 though)

Edit: Agreed with all the people saying NintendoLand. I was sold my wiiu by Nintendoland and I still play it on the regular (If the afterlife was real...that's where I want to go).

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Most definitely Skyward Sword. I can understand someone not liking it as a Zelda game, but to say it's bad game seems ridiculous to me. The narrative is great, with one of the best incarnations of Zelda and one of the series' best side characters in Groose. The environments, although small, are beautiful and imaginative, and the dungeons had some very unique puzzles and bosses.

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Tyranexx

Two additions:

Phantom Hourglass - I agree, once you get past the eyesore that is the Temple of the Ocean King and the fact that Bellum on its own is kinda meh, it isn't a bad game and is in fact one of the better DS games out there. I don't think it holds up as well when compared to most of the Zelda series, but is still a decent game in its own right.

Also, Linebeck.

Spirit Tracks - This one catches a lot of flak as well, but IMO it fixed some of what was wrong with its predecessor. I found the controls less awkward, the Tower of Spirits was set up better, and I found more of the bosses memorable. The train travel was unique and enjoyable at times, and IMO the complaints about it being "restrictive" in terms of exploration are overblown. This is barely a problem if you unlock the optional tracks. Also, Zelda as a Phantom is quite enjoyable and has her helping you in a more active role than in most games (though she hadn't been the typical "damsel in distress" in most of the series).

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PikPi

Tbh I found both DS Zelda games to be phenomenal. Spirit Tracks is one of my favorites in general

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BezBot

First of all, Wind Waker. It's looked at better now but still people complain about the triforce quest and the cartoony graphics, but I have no problem with those. I had lots of fun sailing around, and as for the graphics, I absolutely love them and all the characters emotions.

Nintendoland - This always gets hated way to much. It's really fun and has great minigames that take hours to complete. I really like the Metroid games, beating it with some friends is so fun. Also the battle mode is great too. Some games are pretty bad, like the Animal Crossing one, but the games it does have that are good truly are fun.

Amiibo Festival - I'm not saying this is the best game or anything because it certainly isn't, but I actually enjoy it. I bought it for about $15 and it's really one of the best digital board game I have played. I love the fact you pretty much gamble for turnip prices and really puts a good spin on things.

Minecraft -Feel like I don't even need to talk about this one because if you have actually played it for yourself you will see it's actually a relaxing fun game to play. Sure the fanbase is bad sometimes, but that's what it is for any big game.

Animal Crossing Happy Home Designer - Again, hated for being different than a "normal Animal Crossing" style game. I almost have as much hours in this as I do New Leaf because on the go it's fun for me to meet the needs of the people by building houses and schools for them. The game starts off slow but once you get into it and unlock a lot more it turns into a sandbox like game and is pretty good.

Honorable Mentions - Skyward Sword, Just Dance, Xenoblade X, and 1-2 Switch. Everyone else covered these well so I don't have much else to say about it.

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dok5555555

I agree with Nintendo Land. Really fun game and a lot more depth then you'd think. One of those Wii U games that wasn't fully appreciated because it was on the Wii U.

Also, Mario Pinball Land. It definetly deserves some criticism for being hard and unforgiving, but if you get passed that the game is a really fun game, it's like Mario 64 in pinball form. Graphics are amazing for a GBA game too.

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Pokémon Sun and Moon - My favourite 3DS Pokémon games for sure. I think the trials are a clever way to change up the usual 8-gym format, Alola has some cool areas, there are some great new Pokémon as usual, and the storyline is decent for a Pokémon game, with some really interesting characters like Guzma, Lusamine, and Gladion.

Star Fox Zero - This is the only Star Fox game I've played and I didn't love it (I found it pretty forgettable and had no desire to return to it after the short campaign) but I didn't have a problem with the controls at all, and there were some fun vehicles and bosses in there.

Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks - Not much else to say that others haven't already said, but PH in particular is one of my favourite Zelda games.

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FE Fates, i pre-ordered Special Edition and this is one of my favorite strategy games of all-time. Just saying ^^

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BezBot wrote:

First of all, Wind Waker. It's looked at better now but still people complain about the triforce quest and the cartoony graphics, but I have no problem with those. I had lots of fun sailing around, and as for the graphics, I absolutely love them and all the characters emotions.

I mostly agree, but there's no way I could justify the time spent sailing around in the original release nowadays (and even back then, it was a bit much). So thankful Wind Waker HD exists and fixed that, it let me appreciate the sailing in ways I wouldn't have been able to nowadays. And purists can't even complain about it, since the Swift Sail is optional.

BezBot wrote:

Nintendoland - This always gets hated way to much. It's really fun and has great minigames that take hours to complete. I really like the Metroid games, beating it with some friends is so fun. Also the battle mode is great too. Some games are pretty bad, like the Animal Crossing one, but the games it does have that are good truly are fun.

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Skyward Sword for sure. Not only do I think this game is overhated, but I dare to call it the best Zelda game in the series, even better than Breath of the Wild in some ways. Yes it's linear, yes Fi is annoying in the beginning. yes it's hand holdey but come ON. Does this really make the game worthless in your eyes?

Skyward Sword easily has the best story of any of the games. Link feels more like an actual person with the way he emotes and his relationship with Zelda is the strongest of any title. The romance between them is so sweet and it drove me to WANT to become the true hero and save her. This Zelda game had such a strong WHY factor. Why should I care? Because Zelda is my childhood friend and love interest. The game is linear but this allows it to tell a superb story through excellent dialogue, emotion and excellently crafted cutscenes. The scene where Zelda seals herself in a crystal as Link helplessly beats his fist against the barrier is the most heart breaking and best directed scene in the entire game. God that ripped my heart out.

But it's not just story that does it for me, it's the gameplay. I know I'm in the minority, but I prefer strong linear adventures to open ones. There are very little distractions in this game, which keeps it moving and flowing. Instead the action is focused on combat and the excellently crafted motion controls. Everything feels so natural and responsive. A lot of people seem to take issue with them, and that's a shame. Aiming the bow and arrow from a FPS perspective, slashing your sword in ANY direction with a flick of your wrist or exploring caverns you can't reach with your Beedle are the most immersive feelings I've ever felt in a video game. I'm sorry, but mashing Y in Breath of the Wild just doesn't do it for me. Combat is eons better in Skyward Sword. Oh and speaking of the Beedle, it's the most helpful Zelda item ever crafted. It's the first item you ever get but its usefulness is relevant through the entire game. Exploring places I couldnt reach yet to see what's ahead is an advantage I sorely miss. In fact, pretty much EVERY item retains its usefulness through the entire adventure which is an issue that was far too prevalent in past Zelda games.

Skyward Sword also is home to the most creative dungeons in the series. The Ancient Cistern took the stereotype of Water Temples in Zelda games being a low point, and kicked it right out the window. It is THE best temple in the game with creative puzzles, beautiful visuals and a great twist when you reach the bottom of the Cistern. And then it follows up with Koloktos, the best BOSS in the game. Swinging his sword to slash off his arms is satisfying as all hell and I felt so badass doing it. I love that temple to death. Then you have other creative dungeons like the Sandship where you bend time to solve puzzles or the Mines in the Desert. SO many amazing mechanics implemented in each that continue to blow me away each time I play them.

And finally, the MUSIC. Oh boy. The romance theme, Kolotos theme, and the Final battle are all so majestic. Such a masterful soundtrack.

Breath of the Wild definitely has the exploration and accessibility down and is a masterpiece itself. But it also lacks a lot of things I adored from Skyward Sword. It's such a shame that this title is so hated amongst many when it has so many great things going for it. It's still my favorite Zelda to this day.

F*** the Imprisoned though. He was never fun.

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PikPi

@AlternateButtons Word for word exactly how I feel about the game. Thank you!

That said, I understand peoples' gripes with it. And it makes sense that BOTW is as loved as it is. It's like the complete antithesis of everything Skyward Sword did. So fans of SS probably aren't as in love with a game like BOTW as most others

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AlternateButtons

@MisterPi Don't get me wrong, I adore Breath of the Wild for everything it brought to the series. It's a breath of fresh air that the series did really need. I just wish it kept the strong story, characterizations and soundtrack at the very least. I still wish motion controls became the default scheme but I completely understand why that was never possible. Hopefully the next Zelda game improves upon the story.

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Neko77

@AlternateButtons I agree 100%. I never understood the hate for Skyward Sword. It is hands down one of the best Zelda games. The only complaints I would hear were that the Motion controls didn't work which wasn't true, I never had any issues with them, they always worked great for me. And how linear it is, which isn't a bad thing IMO. The story actually had me invested in it and for a Zelda game thats rare.

Also SS has the best dungeon design in the series to date, Every single dungeon/temple in SS was pure fun.

The only real complaint I have with it is the imprisoned. I will never understand why they though we would wanna do that fight 3 times. Never.

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@Nekoo77 Absolutely. I do hope one day Nintendo returns to a linear style, if just to break up the types of Zelda games out there. A strong story goes a long way sometimes.

The Imprisoned is and always will be hot garbage though. That third fight made me rage so hard when the catapult REFUSED to let me land on his head. Ugh. If they ever make a remake of the game, I hope they cut out the other two fights.

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Tyranexx

The motion control complaints in Skyward Sword are definitely overblown IMO, but not completely unfounded. The only move I ever had trouble performing with the controls was the thrust attack, which is integral to a couple of encounters. The Moldarach boss was an absolute pain almost every time I fought it/one. Also, some of Link's poses with the motion-controlled sword were a little weird for me sometimes, but this had nothing to do with the game itself (I'm left-handed ).

But yeah, I agree entirely with all of the positives outlined above. As for the negatives....Yeah, The Imprisoned absolutely sucked.

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spizzamarozzi

Speaking of NintendoLand, do you people remember all the flak The Wonderful 101 got when the demo was first released?! I remember people going "I would have bought it...if the controls didn't suck!!". We were really at the zenith of the Nintendo negativism at that point - basically everything they did, people had to complain about something. Even the loading times were reason enough NOT to buy a game.

While basically nowadays it's the opposite. But it'll be all doom and gloom again in 5 years. And back to unconditional love again 5 years after. Cos that's how people function.

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Pokémon Sun & Moon.

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Paper Mario: Sticker Star (Not my favorite, but I've definitely played games a lot worse than this)
Paper Mario: Color Splash ("Wehh!! It's Sticker Star 2!! -99/100!!" True, but it fixed a lot of problems.)
Mario Party 9 (The Car mechanic wasn't fun, but the mini games were)
Mario Party 10 (Same for 9, except that the car mechanic worked out better in Bowser Party)
Skyward Sword (My favorite 3D Zelda even today. Controls take some time getting used to.)
Star Fox Zero (Aside from the motion controls at times, it was pretty good...for me, at least)
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team (Gameplay wise, this is a more complete version of BIS' battle system)
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam (The story, characters, and environments could've been better looked at, but this game ended up being good in the end!)

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Animal Crossing: City Folk (So disappointed with Wild World and I expected City Folk to be the same. I was wrong. It had more content to make up for the lack of GCN features that WW did, plus each player had their own house that time as opposed to all players being stuck like roommates. CF didn't wow me as much as GCN and now NL, but at least it felt more like a complete version of a game)
Pokémon Sun/Moon (No idea why people were disappointed with this. I mean, the changes these games did are what got me back into this series after HGSS. No more of those dated HMs, no more of those dated Gyms, etc. I wasn't disappointed at all...plus, I was born in Hawaii, so that gets bonus points as well...)

This is just the start for me. I feel that there's more, but this is all I have.

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