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faint

Knux wrote:

And Nintendo trying to force people to upgrade is being anti-consumer, not pro-consumer. Both Sony and Microsoft know this.

I rather pay for superior online that lasts longer and is better than inferior online. Nintendo will never be at Sony's or Microsoft's level when it comes to online, so it would be hilarious to see Nintendo attempt charging for it's online services.

ati consumer? for real? you don't seem to have any idea of what your talking about. all of the big three make at times bad decisions but the only one with anti consumer policys is microsoft.

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faint wrote:

Knux wrote:

And Nintendo trying to force people to upgrade is being anti-consumer, not pro-consumer. Both Sony and Microsoft know this.

I rather pay for superior online that lasts longer and is better than inferior online. Nintendo will never be at Sony's or Microsoft's level when it comes to online, so it would be hilarious to see Nintendo attempt charging for it's online services.

ati consumer? for real? you don't seem to have any idea of what your talking about. all of the big three make at times bad decisions but the only one with anti consumer policys is microsoft.

it's that shutting down an underused free service to be able to keep another far more used service for free is anti consumer.

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faint wrote:

Knux wrote:

And Nintendo trying to force people to upgrade is being anti-consumer, not pro-consumer. Both Sony and Microsoft know this.

I rather pay for superior online that lasts longer and is better than inferior online. Nintendo will never be at Sony's or Microsoft's level when it comes to online, so it would be hilarious to see Nintendo attempt charging for it's online services.

ati consumer? for real? you don't seem to have any idea of what your talking about. all of the big three make at times bad decisions but the only one with anti consumer policys is microsoft.

it's that shutting down an underused free service to be able to keep another far more used service for free is anti consumer.

everyone complians about sever lag and when nintendo comes up with a solution everyone compliaigns very typical

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faint wrote:

Knux wrote:

And Nintendo trying to force people to upgrade is being anti-consumer, not pro-consumer. Both Sony and Microsoft know this.

I rather pay for superior online that lasts longer and is better than inferior online. Nintendo will never be at Sony's or Microsoft's level when it comes to online, so it would be hilarious to see Nintendo attempt charging for it's online services.

ati consumer? for real? you don't seem to have any idea of what your talking about. all of the big three make at times bad decisions but the only one with anti consumer policys is microsoft.

Sony is as bad as they come.

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Nintendo got absolutely hammered by the EU for anti consumer practices and a huge fine but still do the exact same thing in America (Which must be legal there but it was never ethical).

Microsoft made XNA which most of the best indie stuff uses and are good for the consumer until they become dominant in a market. They don't remove features from an already existing product even if they want to mothball it. (i.e Media Centre Extender which works brilliantly if it is set up properly). They waited 4 years to stop Xbox Live for the original Xbox. Admitted the problem with the RROD. (Whereas Sony basically just lied the whole time. Early PS3's are just as unreliable and need a board reflow which is always a manufacturing defect.)

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Online MK / Brawl party on the night it goes down so we can celebrate and witness the end of an era?

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Unca_Lz wrote:

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I don't know the recent sale figures of B/W 2, but I would imagine they still sell moderately well. It's not like they were released ages ago. They are still the most recent Pokemon games on the DS; plenty of people haven't moved to the 3DS.

Look at what you said, and think about why Nintendo did this

Yes, I realize they want people to buy their newest products. Regardless, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a company to continue supporting the products they have already released. Especially when that product is less than 2 years old and still selling well.

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Super Smash Bros. Brawl will be unaffected by this, though. It works just as well with servers up or down.

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Knux wrote:

And Nintendo trying to force people to upgrade is being anti-consumer, not pro-consumer. Both Sony and Microsoft know this.

And yet microsoft's shutting down the original Xbox's servers seems okay all of a sudden. And I don't think that the PS2 online servers are running either. It cost money and bandwidth to keep servers up. Every server has to go down sometime.

And for this news, well it was inevitable. I'm glad they're still keeping the shops and streaming services up. I still got VC games to download!

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Knux wrote:

And Nintendo trying to force people to upgrade is being anti-consumer, not pro-consumer. Both Sony and Microsoft know this.

And yet microsoft's shutting down the original Xbox's servers seems okay all of a sudden. And I don't think that the PS2 online servers are running either. It cost money and bandwidth to keep servers up. Every server has to go down sometime.

Well, to be fair, the original Xbox had servers up for 4 1/2 years after the 360 came out, in Nintendo's case it's closer to 1 1/2. (For Wii, anyways)

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Adam

Brawl works fine for most people now, but the problems from the first couple months or so continue to be held against it. Its real problem is that the players who remain are 99% trolls who queue up three at a time and team up against the fourth player. It makes random matches as good as if the servers still sucked.

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Adam wrote:

Brawl works fine for most people now, but the problems from the first couple months or so continue to be held against it. It's real problem is the players who remain are 99% trolls who queue up three at a time and team up against the fourth player. It makes random matches as good as if the servers still sucked.

I tried one on one a month ago and it was downright unplayable...

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Adam

That is most unfortunate. Most people I have talked to don't have that problem anymore. I guess its crappiness still persists but is affecting fewer of those attempting to play.

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TingLz

WesCash wrote:

Unca_Lz wrote:

WesCash wrote:

I don't know the recent sale figures of B/W 2, but I would imagine they still sell moderately well. It's not like they were released ages ago. They are still the most recent Pokemon games on the DS; plenty of people haven't moved to the 3DS.

Look at what you said, and think about why Nintendo did this

Yes, I realize they want people to buy their newest products. Regardless, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a company to continue supporting the products they have already released. Especially when that product is less than 2 years old and still selling well.

It could also be that all servers have to be turned off at once rather than by game.

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TingLz

Knux wrote:

And Nintendo trying to force people to upgrade is being anti-consumer, not pro-consumer. Both Sony and Microsoft know this.

I rather pay for superior online that lasts longer and is better than inferior online. Nintendo will never be at Sony's or Microsoft's level when it comes to online, so it would be hilarious to see Nintendo attempt charging for it's online services.

Microsoft and Sony also employ anti-consumer policies, so what's your point?

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It was a necessary move in the end. No point in keeping the Nintendo WiFi Connection servers for old Wii and DS games going. Sucks for Black 2/White 2, but oh well. Most retailers no longer carry any DS games, except for Black 2/White 2.

Also worth noting that Pokegen will become unusable, preventing hackers from creating more hacked Pokemon.

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Adam

Weird, I never knew Gamespy was involved. It is a better explanation though. Nintendo just deciding to shut down this soon was weird. Obviously it had to happen eventually, but this is sooner than expected.

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321zigzag1

CrazyOtto wrote:

Apparently, this is the real reason the DS and Wii's online is getting shut down

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/68679524

Yep that is apparently the situation. It was discussed in Neogaf thread and still right now to an extent.

What most people don't realize that Nintendo Wifi (being archaic and all) was run by Gamespy not Nintendo themselves.

However Gamespy was sold to Glumobile over a year ago and they apparently were centered around controversial decisions of shutting down servers without warning so they can extort higher fees. If this happened with Nintendo, its likely Nintendo didn't want to deal with more BS on their part.

Although Nintendo officially stated they wanted to free up resources for MK8 and new Smash, I believe the Glumobile debacle probably played a role in this.

And yes this whole server shutdown is awful. Pokémon communiies, MKwii, and Project M probably the most affected. Most others not so much unless you are talking Layton puzzles.

It was basically a no win situation. Now Nintendo wifi is archaic and Nintendo likely wants to move on to Nintendo Network. Iwata did describe it as part of their future too.

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Well most of those games will have newer versions anyway, so it's not all bad for the fans.

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