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Slitth

After seeing the new retro consoles on the market, I began to wonder how much a Nintendo eShop Console would cost to make and sell.

It would need hardware that can run NES, SNES and N64 games.
Wifi so we can download the game.
4 controller ports.
Some form of hardish. Perhaps 2 Micro SD ports and a 16 GB card would be a good start.
A power port.
A HDMI port.

And it would need a online shop.
The Nintendo eShop is already up and running so it could use that.
Of course it would only allow purchase and download of NES, SNES and N64 games

But if its cheap it could perhaps become the ultimate classic console.
And Nintendo could make update version as hardware becomes cheaper and cheaper.
Allowing Nintendo to sell games online that are 1 or 2 console generations old.

I could become a unwritten pack that if you by digital copy on new consoles, then one day they would be added to the classing eShop console.

Slitth

neufel

To be honest, when they saw the NES classic was a success, I don't understand why they didn't make a SNES classic with an eshop access. I understand this would have added to the price at launch. But hey. Come on. 2017, and internets and all.

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Kimyonaakuma

@Slitth Hmm I'm not sure. I feel like the main audience for such a console would be the hardcore Nintendo fans, who probably already have a Wii/Wii U which already sells these games.

The NES/SNES Mini seem like quick ways to make money for the holidays, maybe even just collectors items.

Kimyonaakuma

Slitth

I doubt the price will go up.
I did a quick price search of the Nintendo SNES Classic Mini.
It will cost about 160 € here.

To compare a ASUS PC VivoStick TS10.
(Intel Atom x5-Z8350 Quad Core, 2GB RAM, 32GB SSD, Windows 10 Home)
cost about 147 €

I do not know about the specs of the Nintendo SNES Classic Mini.
But I will guess it's much less than a ASUS PC VivoStick TS10.

Slitth

Bezbot

Wii U can already play all those and 3DS can play NES and SNES so I don't see a point to doing that.

Bezbot

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Slitth

@Kimyonaakuma
True.
But they could have save some money on production if they had made one hardware setup with enough power to handle N64 game and go online for the Nintendo eShop.
Then made a shell that it look like the NES, SNES and N64.
And add a gift card for the Nintendo eShop so people can buy the games they want.

After all the classic consoles are sold because of the nostalgia value.
The more nostalgia they can get with the console, the more Nintendo will sell.

Slitth

Slitth

@BezBot
Yes but the Wii U was made to compete with the next gen consoles.
It had a price tag that match that.

The new classic consoles has a lower price tag.
Nostalgia for the 1/3 of the price.

There is a marked for nostalgia, but you have to make it cheap.
You can sell a lot of old game for 9 € if you have a cheap platform to sell them on.

Edited on by Slitth

Slitth

Bezbot

@Slitth 1/3 of the Wii U price is more money than the 2DS, which comes with a game. Also the 2DS can download 3DS, GBC, NES, GB, and Game Gear games, along with being able to buy physical DS and 3DS games. Also for $50 more you can buy the New 2DS XL which can download all those plus New 3DS games and SNES games (but it doesn't come with a game). I know there is a huge market for older games but I think the reason the mini consoles are selling so well is because it's cheaper than buying each one individually, and they sell for a high price so if someone sees one they'll buy it and try selling it for more. Also in the SNES Mini case it has a exclusive game. Anyway I think that wouldn't sell well because people would say "why should I pay that much for another console when I can just buy the same games on my current system"

Bezbot

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Kimyonaakuma

@Slitth I'd expect to see an N64 Classic first but I'm not sure, 3D games are probably more difficult to emulate. If they could possibly get the games to run at a higher resolution, ideally 1080p but seeming as they're on a budget then maybe 720p then they could maybe sell a good amount.

After that I wouldn't expect to see a GameCube Mini, Nintendo will probably rerelease Gamecube games on the switch eShop with an improved resolution.

After that a combined NES, SNES and N64 could happen but who knows, these classic consoles just seem like a quick way to make money to me. Adding eShop functionality would make things more expensive for Nintendo to keep running and I wouldn't see people downloading these classic games for years to come unless they only released a popular game once in a while...

Kimyonaakuma

Slitth

@BezBot
They can probably make it even cheaper than 1/3 of the price.
I was just using the classic consoles price tag as an example.

And yes people will not need to buy a new console if the have a Wii U.
But they have stop selling the Wii U where I live.

And there would be a idea to make people use to the Nintendo eShop.
Because it a good way to make people stay with Nintendo.

Each new generation of consoles makes the mistake of not being compatible with the old games.
Meaning that they are competing with each other on the value of new games only.
I see it as a flaw that each next gen console is not an upgrade of the old one, but just a new consoles.

A cheap console that is launch in between generation could help Nintendo reclaim some of the market that the lost.
People that might have left Nintendo because they did see the value in the Wii U or Switch.

I have personally skip the Switch because it does not like up with the Wii U store.
Because I expect that I could play all the old games I purchased digitally on the Wii U.
With the exception of games that needs a Wii or Wii U controller of course.

Perhaps even a link up to the DS store.

I even expected that Nintendo when fully digital on the Switch.
And left the hardcopy way in the grave.

But no, it failed to link up to anything, and was just again a new and separate console.

Slitth

LuckyLand

They should do such a thing, it would be almost perfect, only improvements would be:

  • A cart slot (because some games will never be made available again because of legal stuff and third party copyrights)
  • make those same games downloadable on their newest main consoles too, making those two different services one single thing, and everybody can use it / buy from it depending on the device of their choice.

The cart slot also would be a plus that would make this console interesting even for people who owns the main console (the Switch for example)

The only problem of consoles of this kind is that they take one of your tv hdmi plug that for sure could be used for more useful, more versatile devices but for sure a retro console like this would be a lot more interesting and valuable than the mini retro crap that they are releasing now.

If they made it portable instead it would be even better because you don't even need to waste one plug in your tv and it would be proibably the ultimate retro console.
They could even manage to gain the rights to publish games from other consoles too like they did with the Virtual console! It would be a dream! For example, I really enjoy my 3DS and a big part of its value for me comes from the virtual console, and it even lacks some retrogames that I would really want!

They really need to improve their retro consoles if they want to sell valuable and interesting products in the long term and all those things would make those mini consoles a lot more valuable imho.

Edited on by LuckyLand

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Slitth

@LuckyLand

The Nintendo cartridge slot is easily fixed with a extra port on the back (USB2) and the cart slot sold separately.
That will keep the console price low.

As for the compatibility with new console. Yes that would be ideal.
Because then a new console would be seen as an upgrade of the classic console.

And I would believe that classic console with download options would open up for more classic games.
Just look a Steam, we see a increase in old games added to the shop.
They would not do that if the was no money in it.

As for portable option I would think it best that we leave it for the next gen consoles for now.
But as hardware becomes cheaper and technology evolves.
I would not be surprised to see next gen consoles make use of chromecast like option.
That would allow the console to connect directly to the TV without cables.
And use wireless charging for controllers. Allowing for limitless wireless play.
(I have seen posts that mentions wireless charging at a distance of 10 meters.)

And as the next gen consoles move on, we could see the next classic consoles have those functions for a lower price.
After all what they do in the car industry.

On that note the cheapest way to make a classic console.
Take the old Wii U.
Remove the CD drive.
Add 2 micro SD card slot of the same make and model are used on the Switch.
A small tweak to the software.
Sell without Wii U controller.
Sell CD drive and Nintendo cartridge drives separately.

And done cheap console with a lot of upgrade options.
Make for spare Wii U parts and a few Switch parts.

Edited on by Slitth

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