Topic: Mega Man 4, 5, and 6: Mixed opinions?

I enjoyed Mega Man 8. The only parts I don't like are the jet boarding segments (why did they have to start the castle off with one?). I found the voice acting to be kinda funny, and I guess it's so bad that it's good (especially Dr. Fudd...er...I mean Dr. Light "Find Doctah WaWee"). Sword Man's voice, however, is very appropriate for his character, and Dr. Wily wasn't bad either. Also, can anyone tell me what makes a Robot Master design bad? I keep seeing complaints about the ones from 6, but no one has said why. What makes them terrible?

A horse makes a bad robot. A plant makes a bad robot.

I got my copy of 5 for 15 bucks off eBay, but that was lucky. Usually I see them for at least $30, sometimes even $40. However, Mega Man 7 is where the money is. A copy of 7 normally goes for $40-$60, and as a result I haven't been able to get one at a decent price.

That doesn't help. Please explain.

$15 bucks is killer! I could have got one for TWO BUCKS when I was younger but I bought other games instead. Flear markets usually have the best deals. You're right about 7. I don't know what to tell you about the boss design though. I think the consensus is that plants and animals don't typically make good bosses. What makes the bosses in 6 good to you? I happen to like Blizzard Man when noone else does.

I love MM6, MM5 was my least favorite, and MM4 was really good too.

There have been some other animal based robots. Among them, people don't seem to have a problem with Snake Man, but have a huge problem with Toad Man. I can see the problem with Toad Man, but I still think he's all right. As for bad design, I'd like to bring up Mega Man 1. No one hates the designs in the first, but they are very simplistic. Cut Man is just a red and white humanoid body with oversized scissors on his head, but he went on to be a classic boss along with the others from 1. If everyone wants to complain about the design in the later games, why not about the first? (I'm not in any way saying the bosses from 1 are bad, but it makes me wonder why people choose to hate the robot masters from 4, 5, & 6 and not the ones from 1-3.) As for the RMs in 6, I just don't think anything is wrong with them. Why is Plant Man bad? I like his design, even though fighting him is kinda dull and predictable. All the RMs from 6 were created in a different part of the world, and I think they suit the game well. The tournament was about seeing who the strongest robot was and since a bunch of different countries participated, they put their own style into each robot. They fit the game well and are a nice bunch of Robot Masters. However odd a centaur or a plant is as a robot, I see no reason to bash them.

Actually only WIndman and Knightman were fan submissions. The others I believe were Capcom created. Nintendo Power had a contest about a year or so before MM6 came out and asked people to submit ideas for robot masters in the next Megaman game. I must have entered at least 20 ideas lol. Anyway they got the idea from Japan where the Robot masters from Megaman 5 were submitted by Japanese fans.

@MegaStoneSmash91 - You bring up good points. I think Ice Man is the second worst robot next to Top Man, yet nobody says a word about him. Here's a link to a pretty funny take on all the robot masters http://www.sydlexia.com/megaman.htm I suppose a lot of the critique on Centaur Man is that his attack and level have nothing to do with who he is. I don't see where centaurs froze time or had anything to do with water in Greek mythology. As for Plant Man, I think your taste is unique. I don't really have a problem with him, but most do. I think all the games are good in their own right, but people always compare every game to 2 and 3 when they should critique the game for what it is.

Mega Man 2's Stage Select is just a flood of Red and Blue. Wood Man is the only exception.
I personally think 4 had the best Robot Masters. And it had the best music.

You know Iv not heard much of 7 and 8 how are those?

Mega Man 7 was pretty good. It was more creative in using the weapons than the other games. They all had duel uses, and allowed for special paths in levels. The final boss was the hardest in the series, though. Mega Man 8 was more by the numbers, with overly long levels, and you only get to choose 4 at a time. It was too easy, too. It felt like MM5 all over again, except even worse. It's really the only Main series MM game I don't like.

@MickeyMac thanx, PunnyGuy just got MM8 today I hope he likes it and I kind of want 7 on VC

I also want 7 on VC. I have it on the Anniversary Collection, but in that version some of the music is screwed up and the Mode 7 animation in the ending was completely removed. Getting an original cart is not easy, and they are pretty pricey.

I agree with your view on Centaur Man. They made it a little more believable in The Power Fighters where Centaur Man's attack was an arrow. He felt more Greek in that game. Also another hated boss is Dust Man. But why? It's not like he really attacks with dust, he sends a big chunk of debris at you (I think he and Junk Man would get along pretty well). His name is also fine. Vacuums suck up dust, but did we really want him to be called Vacuum Man? I like the name they chose, it's more catchy. And it seems like the only games nobody hates are 2 and 3, so thanks for bringing that up. It's not like 2 and 3 are the only good games, after all.

I didnt like 8 either 7 was ok but I still liked 1-6 better. My problem was I didnt like how they gave you 4 robot bosses at a time. Plus I didnt like the voices in 8 either. The game itself felt low quality compared to the other ones.

I agree with you on the Anniversary Collection issues. I have the Gamecube version, which doesn't have the Complete Works remixes of the songs on it . And whose bright idea was it to switch the a & b buttons around? (Well, I kinda got used to it, but even so...) The NES games are badly emulated, and some of the sound effects (esecially on 1) are either too quiet or too loud. MM7 is decently emulated, but the thing that annoys me most about it is that the boss intro tune sounds awful on that version. I mainly keep the Anniversary Collection for 7, 8, and the 2 arcade games. The only problems I have with 8 is, for some reason, the second set of Robot Masters has their voices sped up when you fight them, and Sword Man doesn't sound good as a chipmunk!

Mega Man & Bass is an excellent game, and it's worth getting just to see all the data found on the CDs. It's probably one of the more difficult games in the classic series, but it gets a little easier as you play. As for the 2 characters, Mega Man has an easier time fighting bosses, while Bass is better at going through levels. I have a little more fun playing as Bass, who can double jump and shoot in 7 directions. It's still great playing as the blue bomber, but it is a tad more difficult.

Yeah, shooting while jumping felt awkward, but I did like the ability to switch weapons with the L & R buttons. It was especially useful for switching between Mega Man's Rush forms in 6, because all you have to do is tilt the c-stick. The colors on the original carts are much better than the VC versions, but not as bright as the Anniversary Collection versions.

As I said, playing stages with Bass is easy, but his boss fights (the first couple Robot Masters you beat in particular) are more difficult because he rapid fires and can't charge up. The bosses have invincibility time after you hit them, so sitting there and blasting them as Bass isn't gonna do much. Until you get a special weapon or two, it can take pretty long to defeat a boss. Eventually you get some better items in the shop that can change the capabilities of the Bass Buster, and boy are they useful.

Wily stage 2 on MM10 destroys me every time I play it.

DLC? Are you kidding me?
DLC is one of the worst things that has ever happened to gaming.
You just know you are being ripped off when you have to pay for something that is already in the game data, which is the case with MM9 and MM10.