Topic: Is Nintendo becoming the new SEGA ?

A lot of people seems to be happy with the recent rumours around Nintendo/Microsoft/Gamepass.
I think that's a huge mistake.

I even think Reggie doesn't go away JUST "to spend more time with his family".
SInce Iwata's death, Nintendo shows another face compare to what I'm used to.

I see Nintendo entering in a new era. An era of "only making games".
It's almost like Nintendo doesn't want to invest in tech anymore.

I personally think the Switch could be the last system from Nintendo.
We may see a new version, such as a boosted Switch during this fiscal year,
but I don't see Nintendo coming back with a successor for the Switch.

So, how do you feel about it ?
Do you think the "All-Digital era" is going to transform Nintendo into a developer only ?
Could it be possible that Microsoft owns Nintendo in some years ?
Is 2019 a real turn in the industry ?

Your thoughts interest me.

No

This post is bizarre and all over the place to say the least but to answer the main question, no they arent.

You remind me of someone who used to post here a lot called TheRealGamer. Someone who has a grudge against the Switch and dislikes the "New Nintendo". Are you him by any chance?

@PCkid
NO AND NEVER !!
Nintendo Will NOT become another SEGA !!

"It's almost like Nintendo doesn't want to invest in tech anymore." ????????????????????

The Switch is the most creative gaming device on the market. Sure Sony and Microsoft have devices with more raw power, but the Switch is the only truly innovative device. I'd sooner believe Nintendo to be the last company still producing dedicated gaming devices in the world, than believe they are gonna stop producing hardware anytime soon.

Had the Switch flopped like the Wii U did, it'd be different. But that's obviously not the case.

No but it’s a beautiful day and the sun is shining

It’s genuinely really lovely outside. It feels like spring is finally on its way.

@1UP_MARIO @Maxz I don't know where you lot live, but here in Tennessee, it has been raining non-stop for a week. I'm ready to build an ark.

@PCkid

A lot of people seems to be happy with the recent rumours around Nintendo/Microsoft/Gamepass.
I think that's a huge mistake.

if Microsoft can survive with Minecraft release on every Gen 7 and Gen 8 platform (including Wii U and Nintendo Switch). than Microsoft can survive with their Gamepass being on Switch and PC. Nintendo has Nothing to do with Gamepass. so don't worry about them. they will be find.

I even think Reggie doesn't go away JUST "to spend more time with his family.
SInce Iwata's death, Nintendo shows another face compare to what I'm used to.

he would have left alot sooner during the Wii U era. since the Switch is doing so well, i don't think Reggie is leaving and saying: "Uh, yeah. i'm leaving because of adding competitor games to our platform. how dear you Nintendo!" if he did he would have say more than just "im retiring and want to spend more time with my family"

I see Nintendo entering in a new era. An era of only making games
It's almost like Nintendo doesn't want to invest in tech anymore.

i mean... that's what they do make games for mobile and their console, and tech.

I personally think the Switch could be the last system from Nintendo.
We may see a new version, such as a boosted Switch during this fiscal year,
but I don't see Nintendo coming back with a successor for the Switch.

Nintendo isn't going anywhere. that's like saying "Nintendo is dead because they are releasing the games on mobile, no more consoles after the Wii U" and guess what? they were find. they released a new platform called "Nintendo Switch". it's doing great. Nintendo isn't going become the next SEGA because of Microsoft adding their games to Switch.

Do you think the "All-Digital era" is going to transform Nintendo into a developer only ?

No, because Nintendo will still released a console that has only digital content, just likely how Sony and Microsoft will.

Could it be possible that Microsoft owns Nintendo in some years ?

Is 2019 a real turn in the industry ?

Nothing has happen yet. give it a few year and maybe start worrying. if we are continue to seeing next generation console after the 9th gen. than i wouldn't worried about.

The problem with this supposition is it makes no sense currently. Nintendo has always made hardware to showcase the software. They have admitted this before and the only thing that has changed is that now they feel compelled to craft the entire gaming experience. They have tried mobile gaming and so far they have had decent profit but they do not believe in the freemium model. They may be inching toward streaming as in the Nintendo Online service but that is years away from being worked out and their track record is fraught with missteps in this area.

What they will do is look to innovate in a way that enhances the brand, brings the player closer to the experience and stay in their lane. In the immediate future they have a movie coming out, theme park outposts and are still exploring unique IP opportunities. Sega never came close to this unfortunately and Sammy is still struggling. Sega is a textbook example of how making a few small mistakes adds up to a huge miss in the market. They really sealed it when the Japanese management usurped the North American team and created confusion on the console offerings.

I think this. Especially Microsoft, who seem more interested in selling a platform rather than a physical console.

Nintendo show no sign of leaving the console market. As @Heavyarms55 mentioned, they are the only one innovating in the dedicated hardware space, with their competitors veering more towards PC-like systems.

P. S. Here in London the weather is surprisingly lovely!

Nintendo's business IS video games, so as long as it's succeeding (as it clearly is with the Switch), they won't quit.

Microsoft will probably keep the Xbox line going as a hobby. They don't need the brand to succeed, but they're still clearly interested in keeping their foot in the door. Sales would really have to crash for them to leave the console market, and if that didn't happen this gen (where they messed everything up early on, while Playstation enjoyed PS2-like dominance of the home console space), it's not going to.

The Playstation brand seems to be the only thing keeping Sony profitable, so unless sales crash (why would they, when even PSN transactions alone make more money than the entirety of Nintendo's business?), they're not going anywhere.

I think we'll remain with the central three players for quite a while. Unless some other huge company decides to enter the ring (Google wouldn't surprise me), then all bets are off, of course.

@CurryPowderKeg79 At least we don't live in Arizona right now.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/flagstaff-arizona...

I do kind of miss the snow, though. It never really snows here.

Thanks to all of you.
Very interesting.

Both companies have mascots that were kissed by a human princess in at least one game.

The similarities are uncanny.

Not sure how Game Pass being on Switch somehow means Nintendo is no longer invested in hardware.

Also recent reports/rumors suggest Microsoft plans to reveal the two models of their next gen Xbox at E3 this year. There's still a market for Xbox consoles regardless of their first party titles and GamePass/xCloud being on Switch and PC.

I think it would take multiple Wii U like failures is a row with low first party sales to make Nintendo quit the console market (at least as of now)

As others have said these two things don't follow from each other. If anything it's a sign that Microsoft is heading in that direction after the less than impressive performance of the XBOne. And even then I don't think Microsoft is in quite as bad a position as Sega was. Consider this graph showing console hardware sales marketshare by generation:

Note I included the portable hardware because it's also hardware and I split gameboy in half across gen 4 & 5. Even so, note Nintendo's position compared to their competition. Sony certainly took their virtual monopoly status away but since then, globally, it's been a two company industry. Nintendo owning portables, Sony owning home consoles. Microsoft have only really been successful as a third player.

Now you may say "but you're including portables, that's not a fair comparison". And I'd disagree because we're talking about Nintendo leaving the hardware game entirely. But just to humour this inevitable point, lets talk about the idea of Nintendo leaving the "home console" space. This is the same graph but excluding "portable only" consoles.

In theory? This argument is more compelling. However now that the Switch is out it's far less compelling than it might have been. If you were looking at this chart as it happened you probably would have argued that Nintendo should have left just before the launch of the Wii. And we know what happened after this. Before the Switch? They were back here again, but with the Switch they're not there anymore. Though even at these two points they were still at a (slightly) larger home console marketshare than Sega was for two generations straight.

Put simply, Nintendo and Sony both have just under half of the market each and have done more or less since the launch of the Playstation. The third player in these markets has always been a bit of a tough ride but Microsoft has done a better job of it by not spreading themselves so thin. Likely because Microsoft's main selling point is that it's a Western console in a Japanese dominated market. If anyone is leaving the hardware competition it'd be Microsoft.

If Nintendo were leaving the console market, doing so after the success of the Switch would be it.

I don't think Nintendo will though. If their games are available on Xbox though I think they'll have killed their console market.