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Topic: If You've Ever Sold a Used Nintendo Device, You May Have Violated Upcoming United States Copyright Law

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TheDreamingHawk

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Yeah, ain't gonna happen. Unless it says NOT FOR RESALE on the box, you can sell it.

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LOL, never going to happen.

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GreenDream

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I hope you're right.

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Hokori

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I bought a SNES with about 30 games for only $30 and one of them was a StarFox Demo which said not for resale :o

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Unca_Lz

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To be fair, it's easy to say "it's not going to happen". But unfortunately the article speaks the truth: there is some BS loophole that companies can use against second-hand sales. Therefore it's gonna fall upon the supreme court to determine the outcome.

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GreenDream

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HarmoKnight wrote:

I bought a SNES with about 30 games for only $30 and one of them was a StarFox Demo which said not for resale :o

Don't worry, even if it does pass, this legislation probably only applies to relatively newer goods.

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Nintex

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For the better interest of the industry, I hope this does pass. I'm all about buying new and giving the developer the money and not some second hand stuff that only the store makes profit off of...over and over again.

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JusticeColde

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How do these ridiculous laws get up that far!?!?

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GreenDream

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Nintex wrote:

For the better interest of the industry, I hope this does pass. I'm all about buying new and giving the developer the money and not some second hand stuff that only the store makes profit off of...over and over again.

I agree that everyone involved in the game development and provisions processes should be paid their rightful dues, but I think that should be done more in line with how GoodOldGames.com handles DRM. Probably not a favorite strategy of most companies, though. As long as the user can transfer their digital goods to a physical piece of hardware without being hounded, it's fine. But anyone who wants to make back a little coin if they are not/cannot use their hardware any longer is at the whim of the manufacturer.

Any new electronic goods you buy would no longer belong to you in any way, even if you paid for it. The current eBay/Amazon/whatever paradigm would cease to exist, for better or worse.

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CanisWolfred

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Nintex wrote:

For the better interest of the industry, I hope this does pass. I'm all about buying new and giving the developer the money and not some second hand stuff that only the store makes profit off of...over and over again.

What if, say, I lose my job and my health ensurance, and need money quick to pay for my medical bills? Most people in that situation would sell their stuff, but thanks to this Supreme Court decision, I can't. What am I supposed to do then?

Or here's a less extreme example: What if, say, I want to make space in my house, so I can get new stuff? I can't have a garage sale, so all I can do is through everything I don't want into the garbage, instead of letting people who might be interested in it and use it buy it from me. You know how full garbage dumps would be if people had to start throwing out stuff that wasn't broken just because they can't sell it? As if our society wasn't wasteful enough.

This whole thing is feuled by nothing but raw, unadulterated greed, and it makes me sick to my stomach.

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ogo79

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Nintex wrote:

For the better interest of the industry, I hope this does pass. I'm all about buying new and giving the developer the money and not some second hand stuff that only the store makes profit off of...over and over again.

i support buying new products as well. from cars to furniture. i dont take hand me downs, but have you tried going to toys r us or game stop lately to buy a brand new nes, snes or genesis?

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JusticeColde wrote:

How do these ridiculous laws get up that far!?!?

ever since the economy got wherever the heck it is now, people are coming up with all kinda bs schemes to make money.
crime is worse, scammers are getting smarter, most raises come once a year, people are desperate.
speaking of games, check ebay and see how much retro games have shot up. everyone is turning themselves into a hustler these days to take the edge off.
the higher end sees this and now they want to cash in too. its all about the money

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As @ogo79 said, the SNS-RZ-USA is a prime giveaway that it's not a legit retail cart.
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One step closer to Nazi Germany status!

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Always have, and not going to stop now.

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Sonomin

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This is complete bs. Even if that law is passed, I won't stop buying used games and game systems.

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Zombie_Barioth

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I wonder if they actually know what this does. Back when they tried to pass SOPA you had people literally saying "umm...." when asked what it is and what it will do if passed.

I really hope this doesn't get passed, this is crossing the line between watching out for the good of your company and being greed. I agree that money should go to those who deserve it but I also believe in the recycling that comes with the second hand market, some that can make use of your old stuff and one less thing headed to the local landfill. A lot of time, energy, and materials go into those things the corporations don't want you to re-sell.

I also enjoy going to thrift stores and stuff, which this would put a hamper on (and my retro game collection).

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Birdman

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Well, guess it's time to piss off the internet again to protect our rights...

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theblackdragon

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Did you read that full article explaining what's going on? This concerns products made and authorized for sale only in another country., like if you choose to pick up an MP3 player while you're visiting Hong Kong since it's a bit cheaper than it is at home, and then you try to resell it a few years later after you've replaced it. It's not going to make selling any used Nintendo device illegal, it's going to make selling an imported Nintendo device illegal. If you import an EU 3DS and then try to sell it down the line, that's where you could run into trouble.

It's still going to impact many of us who choose to import items from other countries for our homes and daily lives, and I don't think it's going to hold water in court down the line when some judge realizes he can't legally sell his mansion with its imported-from-Italy fixtures and such without getting permission from the copyright holders for said fixtures. but it's not going to put a fork in GameStop or Best Buy's used device sales by any means, and it has no bearing on your average everyday iPod or smartphone. I'd say the antiques world is going to be the ones in real trouble if that passes and people actually start enforcing it.

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