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malpon

41. Posted:

I'd go for a wii, It was made by nintendo for nintendo games and it works by GUM! I am planing to get a PS3 their are quite a few games that intrest me but i'll never bye another 360 it felt inferior to the GC to me.

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clicketyclick

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GabeGreens wrote:

Wii hands down ... Im one of those who hate blood and gore filled mindless action games and FPSs

SUPERZELDAMAN wrote:

ya i'd go with wii because i dont like mindless shooters.

Yup, because of course that's all there is on the PS3 and 360...

mrmicawber wrote:

But my point is it is an easy cop out even if you were 'torn' in the hypothetical. (responding to Adams post)

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Adam

43. Posted:

@ Post 40
Obviously they already have the Wii, but they don't have the other system. They are fishing for opinions on if other systems are more worthwhile, which they can't know without playing the systems themselves.

As for the rest of that post, the point of this thread is if the consoles' prices don't affect your decision. If you personally don't care about the price of a console, then fine, answer unhypothetically. But for many it does affect their decision. I know people who would have bought a PS3 prior to yesterday's announcement but for the first few years it was just to expensive to be worthwhile despite the exclusive games on it they wanted.

Believe it or not, some people do not have bags full of money stowed away in the closet and compromise by getting a cheaper console. Originally the PS3 was $600 and the Wii $250. If that price gap doesn't affect someone's decision, I want to trade wallets with him.

Not to mention you're changing argument. First you say that there are no exclusives, and now you're saying that the price doesn't matter? What's next? It's such a plain and simple question: If price did not factor into your choice to purchase a console, which would you have chosen? I don't see how it could be any clearer. It's not an argumentative thread to begin with, just a sharing of personal preferences.

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44. Posted:

I'd go with PS3 if it would never get rid of backward compatibility
I'd go with Xbox 360 if Xbox live was free
I'd go with Wii if it had a better interface and more support and the company actually paid attention to the hardcore.

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Modern_Legend

45. Posted:

@Adam I agree with that price thing, it was a big factor for me (however, i never initially knew id spend so much extra on peripherals) and my parents, when i told my parents about the ps3 at 600 bucks they were like HAHA u wish we'd spend 600 on video games

@Clickety wow, u know how to play hard ball :D

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mrmicawber

46. Posted:

weirdadam wrote:

@ Post 40
Obviously they already have the Wii, but they don't have the other system. They are fishing for opinions on if other systems are more worthwhile, which they can't know without playing the systems themselves.

As for the rest of that post, the point of this thread is if the consoles' prices don't affect your decision. If you personally don't care about the price of a console, then fine, answer unhypothetically. But for many it does affect their decision. I know people who would have bought a PS3 prior to yesterday's announcement but for the first few years it was just to expensive to be worthwhile despite the exclusive games on it they wanted.

Believe it or not, some people do not have bags full of money stowed away in the closet and compromise by getting a cheaper console. Originally the PS3 was $600 and the Wii $250. If that price gap doesn't affect someone's decision, I want to trade wallets with him.

Not to mention you're changing argument. First you say that there are no exclusives, and now you're saying that the price doesn't matter? What's next? It's such a plain and simple question: If price did not factor into your choice to purchase a console, which would you have chosen? I don't see how it could be any clearer. It's not an argumentative thread to begin with, just a sharing of personal preferences.

I have been saying all along, wait for it : Exclusives matter much more than price.

Name the exclusives PS3 had @ $600. Name the exclusives Wii had at the same time. No contest.

It is no a matter of price - but what you get for your money. As Warren Buffet sez 'Price is what you pay, value is what you get.'

I am not being argumentitive - just stating facts. Why do ppl wish to ignore the changes that have occured with exclusivity this generation? Why do ppl wish to ignore the huge role exclusive titles have always played in the life and popularity of a console? Can I not just state my case and you state yours??? If you think the console war is determined by price, go ahead and believe that. Silly Sony for 'over' pricing themselves then. Silly game companies for charging more money for HD games and longer dev times. Silly Capcom for expecting ppl to pay for their seat on the online Jurrasic Park tour bus. Silly Nintendo for refusing to drop the price of their console and their exclusive games - for not having a players choice for games that continue to stay on the top 20 for years at original price.

Price is what you pay value is what you get. Software moves hardware. Please look at the whole picture. Let us not make excuses for percieved lack of perfomrnce. Let us look out honestly and without bias at all of the consoles and embrace truth over marketing.

You can nail the gaming industry in a box and say that price is the determining factor, but historically, it just does not hold up.

Clickity Click - it matters not if you think the PC port was poor - there it sits - oin the shelf - fully playable without a console purchase.Heck, it is hard to tell the difference between some console games and PC games anymore anyhow - what with all the installs need to make up for slow bluray drives and such, and all the patches and unfinished games....

It is a blessing Wii has no harddrive - look what it leads to. Most game consumers buy home consoles to AVOID all such nonsense. Blending into the PC market is a poor home console strategy, it leads to nicheness, not richness.

IGN: The holiday Wii lineup looks thin for the hardcore crowd. We see this. Gamers see this. What, if anything, is Nintendo planning to address it?

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47. Posted:

mrmicawber wrote:

Can I not just state my case and you state yours???

They've stated their cases, and you've stated yours, so I guess that means you're happy. Let's chill out a bit here, micawber. There's a difference between rational discourse and barking endlessly at each other.

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mrmicawber

48. Posted:

I am not barking - and I would tease you about clucking, but I see you have your nightstick out.........

IGN: The holiday Wii lineup looks thin for the hardcore crowd. We see this. Gamers see this. What, if anything, is Nintendo planning to address it?

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Adam

49. Posted:

You said the question was a "false" question. I was just saying there's nothing wrong with the question. If you don't like PS3's exclusives, that's fine. But no one disagrees that exclusives matter. That's the whole point of the thread. Exclusives are why I prefer the PS3, ignoring the VC since I have most of those games on the original systems already.

And you're generalizing the other systems (and PC gaming) way too much, but whatever. Aside from MGS4, I've never taken more than a minute to install anything, and it makes for faster loader times than Wii is capable of, so I'm happy with it.

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mrmicawber

50. Posted:

weirdadam wrote:

You said the question was a "false" question. I was just saying there's nothing wrong with the question. If you don't like PS3's exclusives, that's fine. But no one disagrees that exclusives matter. That's the whole point of the thread. Exclusives are why I prefer the PS3, ignoring the VC since I have most of those games on the original systems already.

And you're generalizing the other systems (and PC gaming) way too much, but whatever. Aside from MGS4, I've never taken more than a minute to install anything, and it makes for faster loader times than Wii is capable of, so I'm happy with it.

Woah. Wait a minute. I never said PS3 exclusives were bad. I simply said they were much fewer in number and lacked the pull of Nintendo exclusives. Bear with me a moment for this hypothetical :

Wii is $250 PS3 is $600

PS3 launches with Ps3 (wii) Sports
Wii counters with Warhawk.......

Ps3 follows up with PS3 (wii )Play
Wii counters with Lair........

Ps3 shocks the industry with PS3 (wii) Fit
Wii counters with Little Wario Planet

Now please tell me this gen would look ANYTHING like it does now. Please tell me Wii would not be on life support. Its the software, baby....

I am not insulting anyones game tastes, just saying it is no mystery why this gen is going the way it is....

Also my bro has a PS3 and he is constantly carping about installs and mandatory updates.....so....? I am left to wonder why the PS3 Slim bost a 120 GB harddrive....heck, who installs games Sony???

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IGN: The holiday Wii lineup looks thin for the hardcore crowd. We see this. Gamers see this. What, if anything, is Nintendo planning to address it?

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Modern_Legend

51. Posted:

Soooo instead of getting this topic locked inconveniently mrmicawber, can we all just assume your choice is wii best on what you've been saying and leave adam the right to disagree and say he likes ps3 more for his own reasons? :D

Lets keep it moving guys, the big Brute already warned us once :P

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Stuffgamer1

52. Posted:

I agree that exclusive titles matter a LOT, but I also agree that the price can matter a LOT as well, especially if it would take you a LONG time to save up for the more expensive console. I wouldn't go saying the Wii has more (quantitatively) quality exclusives than the PS3 (more that suck, sure, but who cares?). It DOES have Mario, Zelda, and Metroid, however, which is what makes me vote Wii over PS3. I'm just like that. I can't deny that I currently have more PS3 exclusive games reserved than Wii games, but I think I could give those up if it was the only way to play Nintendo properties. Even though I really want my Uncharted and Katamari goodness. Like I said, this is a TOUGH choice! :(

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53. Posted:

Wii

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mrmicawber wrote:

Clickity Click - it matters not if you think the PC port was poor - there it sits - oin the shelf - fully playable without a console purchase.

No, see, as I pointed out, they're NOT fully playable. They're crippled ports that are unplayable on most computers. Maybe you can get it to perform with a tolerable level of framerate stutters if you buy a very high-end PC, but then you're going to be dropping minimum $1000 to play your game - or slideshow, as the case may be. A $300 console is budget, comparatively, and many people wouldn't be able to play them otherwise.

And in any case, although the PC has many of the multiplats that the PS360 has, and does often have the best version, the PC also has a way better library than the Wii. Take any good exclusive on Wii and chances are you can find a better PC game of the same type. So what I'm saying is you gave a false answer. ;)

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@clicketyclick: Can I get a better Mario game on PC than on Wii? Cased closed on Wii superiority. ;)

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clicketyclick

56. Posted:

@stuffy: Well, yes you can. SMB was released on PC with bonus levels and a better framerate, you can play SMG at 720p, plus, Mario Teaches Typing was awesome. :D

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skywake

57. Posted:

I think I'd probably still end up getting a Wii. Yes, PS3 is ridiculously tempting and it does do Blu-Ray (which would be cool) but I am not a huge fan of the modern sort of games especially away from KB+Mouse. I like platformers and puzzlers and I love the way the Wii has revived the point-and-click adventure genre. Also I couldn't have gone without SMG, Twilight Princess, Wii Sports Resort, WiiWare and VC.

Having said that I am probably going to get a PS3 eventually now there is a PS3 "slim" and I am wanting to do some HD movies on my 1080p screen. But only maybe 1 or 2 games really strike me as personal must haves (GTA and Street Fighter)

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Stuffgamer1

58. Posted:

@clicketyclick: Yeah...that first one is an outright lie, the second requires an emulator running on a really beefy computer, and the third, while a real product, obviously cannot stand up against Wii Mario games. :P

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@stuffy: you never should have doubted me. Anyway, you get the point, right? There's a lot of great platformers on the PC. As I said, "Take any good exclusive on Wii and chances are you can find a better PC game of the same type."

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mrmicawber

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clicketyclick wrote:

mrmicawber wrote:

Clickity Click - it matters not if you think the PC port was poor - there it sits - oin the shelf - fully playable without a console purchase.

No, see, as I pointed out, they're NOT fully playable. They're crippled ports that are unplayable on most computers. Maybe you can get it to perform with a tolerable level of framerate stutters if you buy a very high-end PC, but then you're going to be dropping minimum $1000 to play your game - or slideshow, as the case may be. A $300 console is budget, comparatively, and many people wouldn't be able to play them otherwise.

And in any case, although the PC has many of the multiplats that the PS360 has, and does often have the best version, the PC also has a way better library than the Wii. Take any good exclusive on Wii and chances are you can find a better PC game of the same type. So what I'm saying is you gave a false answer. ;)

Yeah the PC has the best 2-d and 3-d platformers EVER made!

LOL LOL LOL ROFL

Yeah the PC has games that compare to Sports Resort, Wii Sports and Wii FIt!

LOL LOL LOL ROFL

Yeah the PC is known for outdoing every Zelda game over the years!

LOL LOL LOL ROFL

Yeah the PC puts the Mario Kart Genre to SHAME!

LOL LOL LOL ROFL

Oh, I could go on and on - but my sides hurt!

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IGN: The holiday Wii lineup looks thin for the hardcore crowd. We see this. Gamers see this. What, if anything, is Nintendo planning to address it?

Oh good, I am neither a gamer or hardcore. Saves me from having to be IGNorant.
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