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jpfan1989

the modern chicken is fat and stupid but its only because we bred them that way. if you look a Banty Chickens they are smaller, more agile. that may be closer to what the not a chicken looked like or maybe it was a pheasant

pheasants are fast, agile, smart(but not intelligent) and they can fly. now there are tons of species of dogs as a result of selective breeding guided by the human masters. it is possible that long ago a people with the knowlage of selective breeding or mayble not maybe it was just an experiment at the time bred so pheasants till the point that they were stupid and could no longer fly .... like a chicken

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warioswoods

Not that I even care for this particular question, but I think some of you are missing the point. "Does it make a sound?" is meant to make you think about the difference between physical vibrations in the air and the perception of those vibrations in the form of the sense of hearing.

It might be slightly clearer if you ask whether a tree burning in the forest makes a smell; sure, a smell is just a perception of particles in the air, but are those particles on their own really a "smell", or does that word refer to the qualitatively unique experience of perceiving those particles by way of that specific sense? If some other creature had a visual sense so acute that it could actually see all the same particles that we perceive through smell, you wouldn't exactly say that he perceived the smell itself, only the particles. Then, it's not much further to ask whether it makes a "taste" if no one is there to apply their tongue, at which point you can see the purpose of the original question.

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JustYourAverageBleh

warioswoods wrote:

Not that I even care for this particular question, but I think some of you are missing the point. "Does it make a sound?" is meant to make you think about the difference between physical vibrations in the air and the perception of those vibrations in the form of the sense of hearing.

It might be slightly clearer if you ask whether a tree burning in the forest makes a smell; sure, a smell is just a perception of particles in the air, but are those particles on their own really a "smell", or does that word refer to the qualitatively unique experience of perceiving those particles by way of that specific sense? If some other creature had a visual sense so acute that it could actually see all the same particles that we perceive through smell, you wouldn't exactly say that he perceived the smell itself, only the particles. Then, it's not much further to ask whether it makes a "taste" if no one is there to apply their tongue, at which point you can see the purpose of the original question.

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Knux

Why was this topic ever made? I bet this topic will be locked fast.

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AlexSays

Golgo wrote:

JustYourAverageBleh wrote:

Djungelurban wrote:

So to simplify it went: Not a chicken -> Egg -> Chicken.

so where did "Not A Chicken" come from?

A not a chicken egg.

Might just be the funniest series of comments I've seen on this site.

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JohnnyB

If a tree falls next to a deaf guy, and he is startled, would him gesturing "WTF WAZZAT?" in sign language make a sound?

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Djungelurban

JohnnyB wrote:

If a tree falls next to a deaf guy, and he is startled, would him gesturing "WTF WAZZAT?" in sign language make a sound?

Yes it would, try moving your fingers around randomly next to your ear and you'll hear that just moving your fingers will create sounds.

Golgo

This is getting sillier by the post...

If I think really hard that this thread is just a construct of my own deranged imagination, will it go away?

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SonicMaster

No, the tree won't let it go away until you hear the sound it makes.

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Djungelurban

JustYourAverageBleh wrote:

if so, then where did this "A Not A Chicken Egg" came from?

The question was if the chicken or the egg came first, not what came before a "not a chicken egg". But fine, I'll humor you. It's still the egg. An egg is at its essentially a single-cell organism that then starts dividing and eventually, in this case, forms a chicken. Go back far enough in evolution and what you find then is nothing but single-cell organisms which reproduce through dividing themselves. Thus single-cell organisms are more or less autonomous eggs. So basically at that point we have Egg -> Egg -> Egg -> Egg and so forth. Going back even further we're talking about the formation of life were details are a bit unclear as of yet (basically aminoacids somehow formed through a reaction between gas and heat) but I can tell you one thing, there were no freaking chickens atleast.

But also, since you asked, most likely the "not a chicken egg" came from another "not a chicken" since new species doesn't develop every single generation.

JohnnyB

Djungelurban wrote:

JohnnyB wrote:

If a tree falls next to a deaf guy, and he is startled, would him gesturing "WTF WAZZAT?" in sign language make a sound?

Yes it would, try moving your fingers around randomly next to your ear and you'll hear that just moving your fingers will create sounds.

Oh no, you didn't seriously...

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SonicMaster

What if the tree fell down on a Not a Chicken egg?

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Djungelurban

JohnnyB wrote:

Djungelurban wrote:

JohnnyB wrote:

If a tree falls next to a deaf guy, and he is startled, would him gesturing "WTF WAZZAT?" in sign language make a sound?

Yes it would, try moving your fingers around randomly next to your ear and you'll hear that just moving your fingers will create sounds.

Oh no, you didn't seriously...

What's a better way to completely kill someone's attempt at being funny than treating him seriously?

SonicMaster wrote:

What if the tree fell down on a Not a Chicken egg?

Well, there would be no freaking chickens atleast. That much is certain.

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heebeegeebee

One time a full grown tree fell in my backyard, near my window, and I didn't hear anything.

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JohnnyB

Djungelurban wrote:

JohnnyB wrote:

Djungelurban wrote:

JohnnyB wrote:

If a tree falls next to a deaf guy, and he is startled, would him gesturing "WTF WAZZAT?" in sign language make a sound?

Yes it would, try moving your fingers around randomly next to your ear and you'll hear that just moving your fingers will create sounds.

Oh no, you didn't seriously...

What's a better way to completely kill someone's attempt at being funny than treating him seriously?

That is incredibly sad. You sound like you have a low self esteem...

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Ravage

the sensation produced by stimulation of the organs of hearing by vibrations transmitted through the air or other medium.
basically, if nothing "hears" it, then there is no sound.

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Rensch

It does exist. Sound is vibrations in the air. The fact that there are no ears to pick those up doesn't mean there is no sound.

I like pholosophical questions like that BTW.

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Ravage

Once again, sound is vibrations in the air that are perceived by the ear, or whatever you call it depending on the animal.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sound

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