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Link79

I mean before they are obsolete. Since practically everything is being downloaded off the internet these days. Video rental stores and places that sell videogames and music are going bankrupt left and right. It's starting to scare me.

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CDs might go first. As for DVDs it might take a while

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Magi

I prefer to have all of my (owned) items on physical media. I'm not sure if I'm in the majority or not, but that's where I stand. I could certainly see RENTAL places going out of business because of places like Netflix/Redbox, etc.

Of course piracy could always be a contributing factor, but I've never used a torrent service or downloaded/copied anything illegally.

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Raylax

I'm same as Magi, the vast majority of my digital goods are on physical media, and many people still prefer to shop that way, so I think there's still life in it for a while yet.

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theblackdragon

Raylax wrote:

I'm same as Magi, the vast majority of my digital goods are on physical media, and many people still prefer to shop that way, so I think there's still life in it for a while yet.

i'm with y'all. i prefer owning my music and movies on discs I can rip a fresh copy from anytime.

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CDs are going to go much quicker (I'm surprised they're not already obsolete). There are just so many convenient ways to download music (legally), and mp3 players make it much easier to take with you.

DVDs have a little longer. Movies take longer to get on Netflix streaming, and downloads can take a long time. Don't underestimate the amount of people who don't have fast Internet. You also need lots of memory to store a library of movies. Also movie downloads are not 1080p, so resolution junkies are stuck with Blu-ray for awhile.

You'll probably always see CD/DVD/Blu-Ray available for the collector types. I wouldn't be surprised if demand dipped low enough eventually that you could basically only get them at big box stores and/or online.

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BedCommando

There will always be CDs. Why? Because of local bands.
DVDs will always be around. Why? Because it's still the standard for movies, and games (360, Wii and PC games are on DVDs with no need to be on Blu Ray).

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zezhyrule

BedCommando wrote:

DVDs will always be around. Why? Because it's still the standard for movies, and games (360, Wii and PC games are on DVDs with no need to be on Blu Ray).

Yeah, for now maybe, but who says the next Nintendo console won't use Blu-ray Discs, or maybe all PCs in the future? BDs should overtake DVDs sometime, because they hold so much more data.

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BedCommando

zezhroom wrote:

BedCommando wrote:

DVDs will always be around. Why? Because it's still the standard for movies, and games (360, Wii and PC games are on DVDs with no need to be on Blu Ray).

Yeah, for now maybe, but who says the next Nintendo console won't use Blu-ray Discs, or maybe all PCs in the future? BDs should overtake DVDs sometime, because they hold so much more data.

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No Blu-Ray, and it's doing great. Has the occasional multi-disc game, but if you ever played a disc-based system, it's only JRPGs that need them mostly. Now we can have a more expensive console, or just get off our butts and switch the discs like in the PSX-era (Which was the last console I really enjoyed JRPGs anyway).
Looks at PC
Considering PCs are really the top-end of all gaming in general, and use DVDs as standard with no use for Blu Ray...DVDs are here to stay. It's called installations. I'd rather pay for a console to have a good hard drive, then a Blu-Ray player.

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HolyMackerel

BedCommando wrote:

There will always be CDs. Why? Because of local bands.
DVDs will always be around. Why? Because it's still the standard for movies, and games (360, Wii and PC games are on DVDs with no need to be on Blu Ray).

Well, the standard for music was once vinyls and cassette tapes, and home video was once VHS. Look how they went. Yes, there are still vinyls, VHS and cassettes but they are very much in the minority compared to CDs and DVDs.

The reason CDs have been so lasting is because the sound quality is near-indistinguishable from analogue playback and their storage size is large enough for a typical music album (more than 10 songs of ~3 minutes in length). Not to mention CD manufacturing costs have dropped dramatically. There simply isn't a reason for music to be distributed using other physical media because the gains would be minimal.

Still if a technology is surpassed in a manner that is practical, it makes sense to take advantage of the improved technology.

HolyMackerel

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HolyMackerel wrote:

BedCommando wrote:

There will always be CDs. Why? Because of local bands.
DVDs will always be around. Why? Because it's still the standard for movies, and games (360, Wii and PC games are on DVDs with no need to be on Blu Ray).

Well, the standard for music was once vinyls and cassette tapes, and home video was once VHS. Look how they went. Yes, there are still vinyls, VHS and cassettes but they are very much in the minority compared to CDs and DVDs.

The reason CDs have been so lasting is because the sound quality is near-indistinguishable from analogue playback and their storage size is large enough for a typical music album (more than 10 songs of ~3 minutes in length). Not to mention CD manufacturing costs have dropped dramatically. There simply isn't a reason for music to be distributed using other physical media because the gains would be minimal.

Still if a technology is surpassed in a manner that is practical, it makes sense to take advantage of the improved technology.

Next step from CD would be DVD, which simply hold too much memory for local bands to really use, where CDs are perfect. Much like with DVDs for movies and games.

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HolyMackerel

BedCommando wrote:

HolyMackerel wrote:

Well, the standard for music was once vinyls and cassette tapes, and home video was once VHS. Look how they went. Yes, there are still vinyls, VHS and cassettes but they are very much in the minority compared to CDs and DVDs.

The reason CDs have been so lasting is because the sound quality is near-indistinguishable from analogue playback and their storage size is large enough for a typical music album (more than 10 songs of ~3 minutes in length). Not to mention CD manufacturing costs have dropped dramatically. There simply isn't a reason for music to be distributed using other physical media because the gains would be minimal.

Still if a technology is surpassed in a manner that is practical, it makes sense to take advantage of the improved technology.

Next step from CD would be DVD, which simply hold too much memory for local bands to really use, where CDs are perfect. Much like with DVDs for movies and games.

That's what I said. CDs can hold more than enough information not just for indie bands' albums but the mass-manufactured junk too. No more storage capacity is needed - that's why they are such a long-standing medium for music.

But you're wrong about DVDs being perfect for movies and games. With the advent of higher-resolution "HD" TVs, the improved clarity you can perceive on Blu-ray discs is noticeable. A DVD played at 1080p will show obvious visual artifacts and blurriness. You'll notice that too if you watch DVDs using your computer monitor, assuming it's a relatively recent model. If you stick with an older standard definition television then you'll be fine with just DVDs though. (But seeing how "HD" is slowly becoming the new standard, that won't last.) It's only a matter of time before Blu-ray players drop in price enough for them to be universally accepted.

We also now have games that are so large they can span multiple DVDs, conveniently some of which are Blu-ray releases (the PS3 games, anyway). More content or higher-quality content is always welcome in games. The faster data reading speed of Blu-Ray players also means that games will load more data at a faster rate which means shorter loading times or increased audiovisual fidelity (developers can take their pick on that one).

Trust me, I thought DVDs were totally unnecessary when they were first released. "It's just a CD!" I protested. But the improvements are obvious, and mass acceptance of the medium was soon to follow. And the improvements of Blu-ray over DVDs are obvious too, and it's really just a matter of time.

Edited on by HolyMackerel

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@zez Hey, I don't have a PS3 and don't have any plans to get one. (Well, not until MvC3 is out... maybe. ) I'm no Sony fanboy. But it's silly to say that Blu-ray discs are worse than DVDs or unnecessary when that's untrue.

Oh, and FYI Blu-ray discs aren't actually a Sony product. They're the result of a collaboration between multiple well-known technology companies, which Sony is a part of. It just so happens that the first consumer product which used it was the PS3.

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BedCommando

Local bands can't afford top of the line equipment, and even with top of the line equipment, CDs do more than enough to hold a standard release.
I also stand by what I said for DVDs because of the PC market and installations.
@Holy. You can get HD on DVDs, since it's simply a storage medium. I hope you're not one of those people that think only Blu Rays can handle HD.

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zezhyrule

Hm? I think you misinterpreted my comment. I was just saying that you geeks seem to know a lot more about this stuff than me, so I should just stay out of this thread, as to not say anything wrong. ;3

I agree with the HD thing. BDs will take over the world ! >=D

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grenworthshero

CDs will always be around, unless some "higher definition" media takes over, but there will always be physical releases, I think. There are too many people like me, who want an album in their hands.
BluRay will eventually take over and DVD will die out, but it's going to take a while. Blu-Ray is still really expensive.

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