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Hardy83

261. Posted:

Everyone in their right mind knows the US should get some form of a government health care program for the people with no health care.

The whole talk about the government judging if you live or die is a joke, since that essentially is what health insurance companies do right now.

The only people who won't back it will be idiots (too many live in America) and people who earn money from peoples suffering.

I actually felt insurance itself is some what of a horrible idea. Governments should protect people period, not have companies come it, tell you it's okay, and when something goes wrong they try to not give you the money... but whatever. Money talks, and this bill will fail people people are stupid and greedy.

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Zenman

262. Posted:

@ Machu + The Fox
yeah, someone left the crazy fridge open; i was watching the Rachel Maddow show (highly liberal, but still...) and apparently several senators supporting the bill have recieved death threats. of course, as my mom would say

zennies mother wrote:

"they couldn't coordinate a run to Starbucks"

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Turbo_Genesis_64

263. Posted:

The Republican Party is less popular than dog poop these days so all they can really do is scream and shout.

The smear posse for HC reform are the same people that brainwash lies about Obama's heritage to vulnerable people like this woman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpE6ljPjSAk

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264. Posted:

Turbo+Genesis+64 wrote:

The Republican Party is less popular than dog poop these days so all they can really do is scream and shout.

The smear posse for HC reform are the same people that brainwash lies about Obama's heritage to vulnerable people like this woman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpE6ljPjSAk

According to the polls Congress (which is filled with Dems) is way less popular now than Bush ever was. I think it is realy mean to think that all these people at town halls have no idea what they are talking about. You would think that those Congress men and women would have some answers for those people, but instead all we hear is the same old same old.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

265. Posted:

It's true gameking23 that the Dems have taken a hit in the polls, recently. However, the Reps are not taking advantage of it and are still way more unfavourable. The comment about Bush Jr. I find hard to believe because Barack is still popular just slightly less popular than he was in January.

However, turtle dude you have to admit that there is an element of the Elephant party that smears the hell out of people. Even the woman in the video said she read he was an arab! Well, who wrote what she read? If they got the arab detail wrong what other facts did they distort? And what is their agenda?

I'm not saying all Republicans are racists -- far from it; however, it's safe to say the KKK votes Republican.

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gameking23

266. Posted:

I was comparing Bush's numbers to Congresses not Obama's (which are falling fast). As for blaming the Reps of being racist is crazy. When all the Dems ever do is put people into categories. I also think that the Reps can be rather lacking in certain areas like for one not using this time to contrast themselves against the Dems and Obama.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

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I'm sure you and many other fellow Republicans aren't bad people, but I know people who recieved smear e-mails about Obama last year. I think a fringe element of the Rep party are still more upset about a black family living in the White House than they are about HC reform. They are out to destroy him every chance they get.

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The_Fox

268. Posted:

@Zenman
Your mother sounds like a smart lady! :)

@Turbo Genesis 64
People like that old lady are the ones that anger me the most.

@Game King
No, I'm sure some do know what they are talking about and are sincerely concerned. The problem is that people are using the meetings to push their own agenda (Fox News has their fingerprints all over it) and bus in those whose sole purpose is to disrupt the meetings. Many are looking to kick up a shitstorm with lies and misinformation and nothing more. If you oppose the bill, that's fine. But the town hall meetings are a joke.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

269. Posted:

@ The Fox

Do you want to see the political soul mate of the old lady?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bky2SGrmC8g

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The_Fox

270. Posted:

Turbo+Genesis+64 wrote:

@ The Fox

Do you want to see the political soul mate of the old lady?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bky2SGrmC8g

I had heard of him but never saw the video. Clearly, he has no class. I guess at least he released that he should be ashamed of himself when he saw the cameras at the end.

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Zenman

271. Posted:

The+Fox wrote:

@Zenman
Your mother sounds like a smart lady! :)

@Turbo Genesis 64
People like that old lady are the ones that anger me the most.

@Game King
No, I'm sure some do know what they are talking about and are sincerely concerned. The problem is that people are using the meetings to push their own agenda (Fox News has their fingerprints all over it) and bus in those whose sole purpose is to disrupt the meetings. Many are looking to kick up a shitstorm with lies and misinformation and nothing more. If you oppose the bill, that's fine. But the town hall meetings are a joke.

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272. Posted:

Turbo+Genesis+64 wrote:

@ The Fox

Do you want to see the political soul mate of the old lady?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bky2SGrmC8g

haha that was great
ppl like that scare me a little

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Zenman

273. Posted:

Turbo+Genesis+64 wrote:

The Republican Party is less popular than dog poop these days so all they can really do is scream and shout.

The smear posse for HC reform are the same people that brainwash lies about Obama's heritage to vulnerable people like this woman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpE6ljPjSAk

if even mccain woudn't say he's 'not american' than, well, he's not
hey, did any of you see that on lou dobbs one time, someone filling in for dobbs proved he was an american?
and...
CURSES! i should have made the three posts one... oh well

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274. Posted:

Zenman wrote:

Turbo+Genesis+64 wrote:

The Republican Party is less popular than dog poop these days so all they can really do is scream and shout.

The smear posse for HC reform are the same people that brainwash lies about Obama's heritage to vulnerable people like this woman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpE6ljPjSAk

if even mccain woudn't say he's 'not american' than, well, he's not
hey, did any of you see that on lou dobbs one time, someone filling in for dobbs proved he was an american?
and...
CURSES! i should have made the three posts one... oh well

I love how some people choose who they're going vote for based on an anonymous, sourceless e-mail.

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hansolo350

275. Posted:

Vendetta wrote:

No, but instead I see Europeans and Canadians who seek the highest quality of healthcare the world has to offer coming to the United States to receive it.

To start off, I'm a Canadian and our health care system is great. When I needed medical help that was unavailable in Canada, because the only specialist in the field lived and worked in America, the Canadian government flew me to America, got me the help I needed, and payed for it all. The reason you see Europeans and Canadians going to the US for health care is because you have the best doctors in the world. The reason why the best doctors go America is because they know there is lots of money there for them. There really isn't any reason why private health care is better than government run health care. And don't get me started on the statistics such life expectancy and infant mortality rate.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

276. Posted:

I have a sneaky feeling, the crazy, old lady and the monkey doll man are against health care reform because they're satisfied they can't recieve mental treatment!

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Reala

277. Posted:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/blog/talking_politics/article/55620/

I think that article sums up how most British people probably feel about the whole thing.

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The_Fox

278. Posted:

@Blaze
An interesting read. As a side note, I feel bad for the author during his grade school years (with a last name of Dunt, that had to be fun).
There are people that hate the bill, of course. People that don't want their taxes raised, fear the government, etc. The true problem is, though, the sheer amount of lies and BS that the right is force feeding into peoples minds with this issue. They're playing on their fears for their own political gain.

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Machu

279. Posted:

It's been quite amazing the British response to having their precious NHS attacked. We whinge about the service a lot, but if it was taken away from us there would be uproar, and more importantly, unnecessary deaths.

and no I did NOT return to this thread, sshhh, you didn't see me, k

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Zenman

280. Posted:

k it was a ghost
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