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Topic: Government run Health care! yes or no?

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Zenman

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if you have had acess to a television than you probably know that the united states is in a debate about having a government health care option. although a little late to make this a topic, U.S. users, do you want that option?
other users? do you have it? what's it like?
me, as a US citizen, would like the option as most bankruptcies are instances where the insurance company denies coverage, said companies are evil and if the government followed in their practices it can be considered illegal, and, well, why not? i have yet to hear an argument as to why we should not have that option. well, one that makes sense.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

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YES!!!

Polls show that Americans are overall unhappy with their health care or lack of it.

While on the other hand, polls show that the Europeans and Canadians overwhelmingly approve of their goverment run health care systems.

I think people who complain about "socialism" are bizarre. Because we already have socialism in this United States with public schools, fire departments, social security, paved roads, and the list goes on and on...

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Bahamut_ZERO

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No. People who can afford health care will be "punished" with extra taxes and lower quality medical attention.

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ASDFGHJKL

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No, my healthcare is Nobamas buisseness! (pun intended and extremely obvious)

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Vendetta

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The Post Office, Social Security, FannieMae, FreddieMac, and Medicare are all prime examples of US Government programs. All would be bankrupt but for the government pouring in good money after bad to keep them afloat. I have no confidence whatsoever that the government can do a better job with something as complicated and vital as health care.

The proposal is a powergrab which attempts to enfranchise the typical Democrat demographic targets and cement their majority in that growing population.

So like, no.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

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The problem with the USA is we have a for profit health care system. I for one can't stand all these dumb drug commercials we see all day long over here. I have a friend who is a doctor and he says that there are drugs from 20 years ago that work better than the newer drugs, but the doctors can't say it because there is no money in pushing drugs that have gone generic!

I want a lean, mean health care machine! Why should someone be denied medical coverage just because they lost their job? Most of the developed world agrees that health care is a right not a privilege.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

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Vendetta wrote:

The Post Office, Social Security, FannieMae, FreddieMac, and Medicare are all prime examples of US Government programs. All would be bankrupt but for the government pouring in good money after bad to keep them afloat. I have no confidence whatsoever that the government can do a better job with something as complicated and vital as health care.

The proposal is a powergrab which attempts to enfranchise the typical Democrat demographic targets and cement their majority in that growing population.

So like, no.

Goverment run health care has run successfully for decades in Canada and Europe!

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Vendetta

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And your (exclamation) point is what, exactly?

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Turbo_Genesis_64

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You don't hear the Europeans and Canadians saying they want a for profit health care system, do you?

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Vendetta

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No, but instead I see Europeans and Canadians who seek the highest quality of healthcare the world has to offer coming to the United States to receive it.

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I honestly think that government run health care programs work better in smaller countries than larger countries.

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Rawk_Hawk

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I am not in support of it and have no confidence in our current administration to run this properly.

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gameking23

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No way do I want the government running my health care. They have never ran anything well at all. So why should I think that they could run this correctly.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

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The USA doesn't not have a monoploy on quality health care!

Farrarh Fawcett for example had anal cancer and the best treatment for it was in Germany. She literally flew out there for treatment! My uncle has cancer and the best medicine he got was a new drug developed in Japan.

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Stevie

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Being from the UK, a country that has a National Health Service i would advise against it, it is a bottomless pit for tax payers money with millions upon millions being wasted, which would be OK if the service was actually good, but in actual fact we have one of the worst health services in Europe, with countries that are relatively poor compared to us having access to a far greater health service than our own. There are a increasing amount of people in the UK who even with a free health service are choosing to pay for a private health service because of how poor ours is.

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Vendetta

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@T-Gen64: Farrah Fawcett is probably not the best example for your case study.

I am sorry to learn of your uncle's cancer. I lost two to cancer, myself. But please keep in mind that drug development and health care are two completely different things.

I wish your uncle a fast and complete recovery.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

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We've heard from the gamers now let's hear from the experts! The is an article from the New York Times today:

"Eighty-nine percent of Americans say they believe the nation's health care system needs fundamental change, and far more Americans than Canadians or the British say financial barriers keep them from getting the health care they need, polls taken in the three countries last fall have found.

The nearly identical polls were administered by Louis Harris & Associates in the United States, Gallup Canada in Canada and NOP Market Research in Britain. They showed that only 10 percent of those surveyed in the United States said their health system functioned pretty well, as against 56 percent in Canada and 27 percent in Britain.

The surveys showed that Americans were far more critical of their health care system than were British or Canadians. Eighty-nine percent of the Americans polled said their system needed fundamental change, while 42 percent of Canadians and 69 percent of the British said the same of their systems. Widely Contrasting Systems."

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/15/us/polls-show-discontent-wi...

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Bahamut_ZERO

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if it's free, it comes at a price. More taxes and lower quality. Fact.

It's your choice which you would rather have, but with Obama already taxing us to death, another wouldn't exactly help my gaming.

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Slapshot

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Hell NO!!!

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Vendetta

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Don't make the mistake of assuming that gamers can not be experts, T-Gen.
Furthermore, a more egregious error on your part would be to consider as "experts" the general population surveyed in the article you cite.

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