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1. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 19:17 GMT
12. wii sports11.The sims10. Metroid Prime9. Mass Effect8. Super Mario Galaxy 7.Portal6. Halo : Combat Evolved 5. Grand Theft Auto III4.Shadow of the Colossus 3 Half-Life 22. Dues Ex1.World Of warcraft
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2. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 19:22 GMT
WOW at No 1. What a load of s***te!! The rest I can see why they were picked but WOW, no way would that make it into my list!!
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3. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 19:26 GMT
read the article it perfected the MMo formula and made social online gaming a norm. I mean a few cheerleaders at my old school play WOW on the DL.
4. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 19:31 GMT
Well waddya know, Wii Sports made it on the list. Congratulations Wii Sports!
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5. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 19:35 GMT
Okami deserved a spot but just by having Deus Ex and SotC on there makes the list worthy.
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6. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 19:38 GMT
was surprised Bioshock wasn't on the list.
7. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 19:45 GMT
Ew. Crappy list. No way World of Warcraft is Number one.
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8. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 19:48 GMT
you have to read the article to understand why these games were chosen. They all had an impact on the industry and pop culture.
9. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 19:53 GMT
I don't have a problem with any of that. I would liked to have seen Diablo2 on that list.
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10. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 19:58 GMT
I'd place Super Mario Galaxy and Portal a little higher on the list simply because of how much they changed their genre. Otherwise it was a well put together list. Shadow of Colossus should be replaced by Okami.
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11. Posted: Wed 30th Dec 2009 20:38 GMT
Is it after 9PM EST? You should probably ignore the above post.
12. Posted: Sat 2nd Jan 2010 20:24 GMT
I smell Bias on this list. Super Mario Galaxy deserves to be #1. What other game has that kind of creativity? Also Metroid Prime was revolutionary for the series. Doesn't that count for something better? And really, World of Warcraft? BIAS I TELL YOU!
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13. Posted: Sat 2nd Jan 2010 20:30 GMT
I don't think most of those complaining about the list understand Gamasutra's mission. It's not a review site or your typical game site. It's a site that focuses on game design. They're going to value games by different merits than the average top whatever list. As Shingi says, they have their reasons for each one. It's not just a list of personal favorites.
Edited on Sat 2nd January, 2010 @ 20:30 by Adam
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14. Posted: Sat 2nd Jan 2010 20:34 GMT
Super Mario Galaxy didn't change its genre at all. It's just a good, standard Mario game (in space). It didn't do anything new or revolutionary. SotC is equal to (arguably greater than) to Okami.
15. Posted: Sat 2nd Jan 2010 20:35 GMT
I know Shadow of the Colossus is supposed to be this beautiful game with deep hidden meaning on our place in the world and how we can only count on ourselves to overcome our obstacles, but I just didn't get what all the love was about. I found it dreary and dull, but nowhere near as dull as their previous game Ico. Then again I'd rather watch Rambo III than Gone With the Wind so my tastes are not set for critical darlings. Also, why is it that everyone talks about how good it is but I've never actually met anyone that has it? It reminds me of the Beyond Good and Evil thing, everyone loves it and talks about how great it is but ain't nobody playing it.
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16. Posted: Sat 2nd Jan 2010 21:18 GMT
Galaxy rethought the genre to a very small extent, though it was certainly not mind-blowing.
Okami is another Zelda game with a different name. Why people think it should be on this list, I have no idea. Sure, you may think it's a very good game, but it is in no way extraordinary in terms of game design. They took very common concepts and tossed a wolf and a paintbrush in the mix.
Shadow of the Colossus is in no way comparable to Okami. It really challenged everything about the third-person adventure game. It takes this huge, beautiful world, populates it with nothing, and is still somehow a joy to explore. The "bosses" have been called (I forget by whom) "Zelda dungeons turned inside-out," which is a pretty clever way of thinking of it. This hasn't been done before. The scale of these enemies is huge, the approach to tackling them is brand new, and making this compelling enough to be the entirety of the game is very impressive. And it does all this without but a few lines of dialog (at least that we can understand) while still conveying a very cinematic experience. Whether you like it or not -- the crappy worse-than-Mario-64 camera work prevents me from enjoying it as much as I like -- it's a brilliant game that carefully rethought everything about Zelda-like games, and from Gamasutra's perspective, that's what's important here. I don't think there is any "Deep hidden meaning" as Rowdy suggests, and I've never heard that even suggested before. You don't need a hidden message to enjoy a game.
Edited on Sat 2nd January, 2010 @ 21:19 by Adam
17. Posted: Sat 2nd Jan 2010 21:27 GMT
Although I despise WoW you cannot argue with it's popularity and what it has done in the world of online gaming, I think its about 11 million subscribers they have now which is staggering when you think about it.
I can see arguments why each of these games should be on the list, but could also argue for quite a few other games that should be on there, these lists are always somebodies opinion though so will always be disputed, there is no definitive list except Adams.
Edited on Sat 2nd January, 2010 @ 21:38 by Stevie
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18. Posted: Sat 2nd Jan 2010 21:32 GMT
there is no definitive list.
Well, except mine, right? I mean, who doesn't want to read a top 12 list where every entry is Mother 3 accompanied by a different reason each time why it's the best game ever?
19. Posted: Sat 2nd Jan 2010 22:35 GMT
I agree with the games that are there, but not necessarily the order. Glad to see Shadow of the Colossus got some love.
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