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Topic: Fans Say They Are Giving Up on Nintendo, But do They Really Mean It?

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SuperWiiU

I can understand it. Some people love Nintendo, but hated the motion controls of the Wii, then weren't impressed by the Gamepad of the Wii U and it's terrible third party support, even more so if it's their own only gaming console. Then people can't get their favorite amiibo's and thought the E3 reveals were very disappointing. If you experienced all that (and more), I get it, but that doesn't mean they've abandoned Nintendo forever. A good NX reveal with a solid launch line-up might get most of those people back.

andreoni79

HollywoodHogan wrote:

GuSolarFlare wrote:

nope, the ones who give up on Nintendo just leave it behind without saying a word, rather, the people trully willing to give up on something just move on without trying to hog attention, because they feel like it's not worth their time.....

What about people on here posting that they are buying a PS4 or Xbox One? Are they just lying as well?

Just bought a used PS4 with Bloodborne few days ago and now it's right there next to my Wii U. This doesn't mean that I'm giving up on Nintendo: I'm just disappointed by the lack of certain games on a console that have the power to run any PS3/360 AAA title. The real problem is that the Wii U is still lacking (and won't never have) some of the biggest franchise that every reasonable Nintendo fan was expecting to play. I hope Nintendo learnt the lesson.

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KryptoniteKrunch

arronishere wrote:

It's empty over reaction with no substance.

kkslider5552000 wrote:

The Xbox One isn't dead, so I doubt one disappointing E3 is gonna change anything for Nintendo.

I agree with these two sentences. I just find the whole "I'm abandoning X company after a poor E3!!" to be such a silly thing to do. I'm still and always will be a Nintendo fan despite their disappointing E3 this year. I'm still a Playstation fan despite Sony continuing to give the Vita the shaft the past few E3s...

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bitleman

Actually Nintendo tried to get Minecraft on their systems. They even tried to get an exclusive deal for Japan. But that was before Microsoft put 2,5 billions on the table to buy Minecraft.
They didn't really care about minecraft on sony systems because it wouldn't be a system seller. But they really didn't want it to be released on Nintendo systems. It would have probably been very successful. Especially with the touchscreens which can mimic the mouse fonction.
And there's nothing wrong with that. It's how competition works. No one is going to make games for you for free and relationships with third parties isn't a dating sim. It's a matter of money in the end.

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EngieBengie

Platypus101 wrote:

They cannot be called "fans" if all they do is talk about quitting and leaving...more like, consumers! That's the word. You ought to change the title of the thread to "Are Consumers giving up on Nintendo?" See, I'm a fan of sports teams, whether or not they do well, I (along with all the other team fans) still cheer them on and wear their colors with pride! Here, I just see consumers who no longer want to be associated with an unpopular company, not unlike the big change against Apple products a few years back... Those people were not "fans" just consumers. "I hate Apple! I'm all Android now!" That's how these threads come off. Fans should not be confused with sheeple that jump from fad to fad. 'Nuff said.

Umm, no. A fan is someone who is an enthusiastic devotee, follower or admirer. That's what a fan is. But now, you are trying to put the people, who have supported Nintendo for years, in the basket as people who just bought the Wii U because it looked interesting for the only reason that they are disappointed in Nintendo. I've been a Nintendo fan since about 1999. Buying strictly their consoles because I loved them. I loved the GameCube, the Wii, the N64, the DS, the GameBoy Color, Gameboy Advance, 3DS. I'm not a person going for the best deals, I'm a person who stuck with Nintendo even though they weren't the best in the 5th gen or 6th gen. The Wii U however is one massive disappointed, so much so that I am questioning why I should stick with them when they aren't learning from their mistakes.

Now, you are saying that people who are giving up on Nintendo and are vocal about it are simple consumers who never had any love for or appreciation for the company. Umm, no. Quite opposite actually. We want them to change, we tell them what's wrong because we like the company and expect that if they understand what is wrong with what they do, they will change it and we can continue having quality products from THEM. A consumer is someone who purchases goods for personal use. So, by definition, we are all consumers. But the way you explain things, you try to manipulate reality into making it seem like this party who is complaining currently about how bad Nintendo is doing and how much of a failure the Wii U is, are people who never appreciated and followed them.

So basically, you are wrong. Should actually check the definition of these words first before you try to distort the truth.

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EngieBengie

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I think it's time I bought a decent gaming pc....I am playing minefield at 24 fps

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Sleepingmudkip

I would never give up on nintendo no matter what.....no matter how hard they abused me.

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6ch6ris6

GrailUK wrote:

I think it's time I bought a decent gaming pc....I am playing minefield at 24 fps

this is me 3 months ago.

seriosuly dude. get a gaming PC. you won't regret it.

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Spectator

Seems a little extreme to give up on Nintendo. I would say, maybe complacent or disappointed, but to give up completely at this stage, would seem more like these are bandwagon fans/ consumers. Nintendo fans are probably the most hardcore fans.

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EngieBengie

Fans disappointed in the failure that is the Wii U should be encouraged to abandon ship. Broken promises, Nintendo not giving their fans what they want, failure to give value and make their console a good investment. All good reasons to abandon ship and not give them money. Those against it are usually those more sensible to criticism, those who are afraid of the negativity.

Sony fans, Xbox fan, PC fans, to them it's nothing new to complain and speak with their money. In exchange these companies worked harder to give value to their console, taking smarter and better decisions. With Nintendo fans, you have to suffer and continue enduring the onslaught of trolls and haters to show, in their own twisted way, that they still like Nintendo. God forbid you're complaining to see them succeed.

You look how people were giving up on the PS3 in its first few years. What did Sony do? They started marketing the console better, getting the good games out, cutting the price, etc. Xbox One was suppose to have DRM and to play it, you needed an internet connection. Fans complained and threaten to not buy it and instead supporting their competitors. They did a 180 and now the Xbox One is a pretty decent console. Had they went through with their original view. Every time Lizard squad attacked Xbox, people wouldn't be able to play their games.

But to Nintendo fans it's somehow a novelty, a harsh way to punish Nintendo, how dare we. I may have worked my ass off to get that $300 console (which is not needed for me to keep on living) but oh boy, I should totally not complain about anything. Getting your money's worth out of something, that's kind of a thing. Call me crazy but when I complain about a product that fails to do what it is suppose to do, as advertised, I'm the one who paid, I deserve the right to criticize instead taking it up the bum and shutting my yap like others want me to do. Where are the third party support they promised in E3 2011? Why do we still have droughts when Iwata promised there won't be like the one that plagued the 3DS after launch?

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ultraraichu

The odd thing is back when major 3rd party was supporting the Wii U, not a lot of people buy their games. Could be the delayed/ held back releases like Rayman and Watchdog, The WiiU-make of old games on other systems like Batman AC and Ninja Gaiden 3, inferior builds or missing dlcs/ features compared to the other platforms like most of Ubisoft realistic games, Mass Effect 3, and Injustice, or ignore good ports like Need for Speed: Most Wanted.

Pretty much 3rd party blame can fall with anybody or everybody.

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WiiWareWave

Honestly E3 wasn't a major issue for me, it's all of Reggie and Iwata's backpedaling and saying that their fans aren't important and that they'll do whatever the F*** they want. Nintendo is quickly becoming an anti-consumer corporation that is every bit as bad as EA...fans matter, to think otherwise means that your company is on a fast-track to truly being doomed. One bad E3 doesn't bother me, but the higher up's at Nintendo are seriously ticking me off to the point that I'm dangerously close to no longer supporting them by purchasing their future consoles.

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WiiWareWave

Platypus101 wrote:

They cannot be called "fans" if all they do is talk about quitting and leaving...more like, consumers! That's the word. You ought to change the title of the thread to "Are Consumers giving up on Nintendo?" See, I'm a fan of sports teams, whether or not they do well, I (along with all the other team fans) still cheer them on and wear their colors with pride! Here, I just see consumers who no longer want to be associated with an unpopular company, not unlike the big change against Apple products a few years back... Those people were not "fans" just consumers. "I hate Apple! I'm all Android now!" That's how these threads come off. Fans should not be confused with sheeple that jump from fad to fad. 'Nuff said.

You do realize that what you're describing is a blind fanboy who will allow a company to abuse them and just blindly throw them money. I've been a fan of Nintendo for 25 years and as I already stated E3 didn't bother me, heck even the fact that the Wii U will probably be phased out before its five year life-cycle is nothing more then moderately disappointing, it's Nintendo's arrogance and the fact that their true fans aren't important to them that really ticks off the true fans who have stuck with them through all of their tough times that they've gone through.

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dumedum

They'll have a few cool directs and everything will be right again.
If they do launch the NX soon (which I hope they don't - they should put all effort on Wii U), it'll probably look awesome, and people will love that too.

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Caryslan

EngieBengie wrote:

Fans disappointed in the failure that is the Wii U should be encouraged to abandon ship. Broken promises, Nintendo not giving their fans what they want, failure to give value and make their console a good investment. All good reasons to abandon ship and not give them money. Those against it are usually those more sensible to criticism, those who are afraid of the negativity.

Sony fans, Xbox fan, PC fans, to them it's nothing new to complain and speak with their money. In exchange these companies worked harder to give value to their console, taking smarter and better decisions. With Nintendo fans, you have to suffer and continue enduring the onslaught of trolls and haters to show, in their own twisted way, that they still like Nintendo. God forbid you're complaining to see them succeed.

You look how people were giving up on the PS3 in its first few years. What did Sony do? They started marketing the console better, getting the good games out, cutting the price, etc. Xbox One was suppose to have DRM and to play it, you needed an internet connection. Fans complained and threaten to not buy it and instead supporting their competitors. They did a 180 and now the Xbox One is a pretty decent console. Had they went through with their original view. Every time Lizard squad attacked Xbox, people wouldn't be able to play their games.

But to Nintendo fans it's somehow a novelty, a harsh way to punish Nintendo, how dare we. I may have worked my ass off to get that $300 console (which is not needed for me to keep on living) but oh boy, I should totally not complain about anything. Getting your money's worth out of something, that's kind of a thing. Call me crazy but when I complain about a product that fails to do what it is suppose to do, as advertised, I'm the one who paid, I deserve the right to criticize instead taking it up the bum and shutting my yap like others want me to do. Where are the third party support they promised in E3 2011? Why do we still have droughts when Iwata promised there won't be like the one that plagued the 3DS after launch?

I agree with everything you said. This is what some people don't get, fans like me aren't slamming Nintendo because we have nothing better to do or for fun. Many of us just want to see a competitive Nintendo. I remember Nintendo with the NES and SNES. I remember how competitive they were, how they took the fight to Sega in one of the greatest generational wars ever.

Back then, Nintendo has no trouble getting third-party support. The third-party games on the NES and SNES were just as responsible for Nintendo's success as anything Nintendo themselves put out.

But now, all I see is a company that throws out empty promises and a fanbase that is willing to defend almost every single thing they do.

And when people do say something negative about Nintendo we get labeled as "haters" or someone who can't understand the genius of Nintendo's games and hardware.

Here's my stance on all this, I love my 3DS and even my Wii U. I think on the whole, they are both good systems. But the Wii U is filled with untapped potential, and much like the Vita, will go down in gaming history as another system that could have been so much more.

Whenever people start asking Nintendo to get better third-party support or more modern hardware, some fans equate that to Nintendo selling out or losing what makes them special.

So, were the NES and SNES selling out? Are Nintendo handhelds selling out? Those systems all have great third-party support.

Here's my issue. While I love my Wii U, I'm not sure I'm gonna buy Nintendo's next home console. Maybe their next handheld, but I think I'm done with their home consoles. I love Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and other Nintendo franchises, but the drought of games has been an issue for Nintendo since the Nintendo 64, and with each passing generation its gets worse and worse.

Its a bitter pill to swallow when you spend 300 bucks on a system, and get shut out of most of the games that are coming out this year. Why buy a Wii U if its going to collect dust while I play games like Dragonball Xenoverse on my old PS3?

People need to understand, its not all about blindly hating on Nintendo and wanting to see them fail. I want the competitive Nintendo from the 80's and 90's back. The Nintendo that dominated the business with the NES, and then took the fight to Sega a generation later.

I'm sorry, I'm just tired of the modern Nintendo. All I see is a company that breaks promises, puts out underpowered hardware attached to a gimmick, and who relies on nostalgia to get sales.

They still make some brilliant games, no argument. But otherwise, they are using a business model that causes them to fall further and further behind Sony and Microsoft. There's not even any fight anymore. Its almost like Nintendo is happy with they scraps that it gets.

I might still buy Nintendo's next portable. But I'm done with their home consoles unless the NX really impresses me.

Its not me being a hater, its just me realizing that Nintendo is no longer after being the major player in the market anymore. Long gone is their days of fighting Sega tooth and nail to control the 16-bit market.

There's no spirit with Nintendo anymore, no desire to put out the best hardware with the best games, with the best support. This is what bothers me about the modern Nintendo.

Sony and Microsoft came out swinging at this year's e3. There are countless games to look forward to on the PS4 and Xbox One. Besides Nintendo's games, what is left in the Wii U's tank? Its clear Nintendo is already moving their resources to the NX.

And I would love to be positive about the NX, really hope that Nintendo has finally learned their lesson and will put out a cutting edge piece of hardware. But I don't think it will happen. How many times have we been told that Nintendo understands us, is working on the issue of third-party support, and yet it becomes clear they can't uphold their promises.

Feel free to label me a hater, call me someone who does not get Nintendo. But I'm jaded, hell I'm rather bitter. Time and time again, Nintendo has been given chances to fix their mistakes, and yet it keeps getting worse each generation. The Wii U should

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dumedum

Savino wrote:

Your analogy with a sports team is not quite right.
I mean, you donĀ“t need to spend your money to support your team... you can watch all the games via TV or listen it with a radio. With tech companies you have to vote with your wallet!

It's actually the same thing. If you're a true fan, you'd buy season tickets, buy merchandise and spend a lot of money on your team. You can also watch Nintendo stuff without buying and supporting them.

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@EngieBengie & @Caryslan: You guys nailed a lot of my current thoughts on Nintendo.

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