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Snaplocket

Okay, I'm making this thread because I've noticed a good number of gamers concerned over the fact Xeno 2 apparently doesn't have dual audio (English only). I feel the need to ask this, "Why should that matter?" Before people start attacking me, let me just state I have nothing wrong with people who prefer subs over dubs. However, you shouldn't refuse to support a great game just because it doesn't have Japanese voices. These days it's far more common for a game to not even be dubbed anyway. Even if the dub isn't very good, that doesn't warrant skipping a game that is otherwise great. Just my two cents. Feel free to discuss.

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LuckyLand

I'm not interested in this game but I agree if I really wanted a game I'd buy it no matter if it has dual audio or not. I usually don't even like speech in games, except a few exceptions (right now I can think of only two games where I actually enjoyed speech). I don't think such a thing matters so much that is worth it to skip a game you would otherwise want just because of that.

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Ralizah

Gaming is a hobby. People are entitled to skip purchasing something for whatever reason they want.

I tend to prefer English dubs, though, so it obviously doesn't matter to me. I won't skip a game that is Japanese-only, either, even though it's not my preference.

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NaviAndMii

I like to have flexible audio options - but it's not a 'make or break' thing for me...

eg. with Breath of the Wild - it kind of has an 'anime' style, so my preference is to play it as I would watch anime (Japanese audio, English subs) ..that option wasn't available in the game from day 1, which I thought was a bit of a shame - but it didn't stop me from buying and enjoying the game - just, when they patched the game to allow that audio/sub flexibility, it made the game even better in my view (..even if you don't use it, I'd always say that it's better to have the choice ideally)

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neufel

I totally understand your point, and I've never skipped a game because of that.
However, I feel that when a company's public relations explain why there's no dual audio, the pill isn't that hard to swallow (except for really hardcore fans. But maybe for those the region free consoles are helpful).

I mean, I've heard stories about how contracts with voice actors could make any foreign sale impossible. This is understandable and completely breaks the usual argument "there's enough room on the disk/cart to put both audio tracks, or at least put it on DLC".
I don't know if that's the case for Xeno 2, though.

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spizzamarozzi

Dual Audio is not essential, but if adding it would be as easy as programming a small menu screen where you can choose the audio and the subtitles, I see no reason not to have it.

However, if the developers have good reasons not to have it (I don't know about XC2, but a good reason might be that some cutscenes get edited for foreign markets, which would make the japanese dubbing out of synch), I have no problem not having it.

As a general rule, don't trust what people write on the internet. If you read people saying they are not going to buy it just because of the lack of dual audio, or the cover art on the box, or the font used on the spine etc - it usually means they wouldn't have bought it anyway. Nobody can be that stupid as to say no to a game they would have liked for something that stupid.

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Snaplocket

@spizzamarozzi It still costs a lot of money to add Japanese voices. Like, way more then you expect. Also, depending on the size of the voice files, it can take up a LOT of space. I'm almost certain the reason why Xenoblade 2 likely won't have it is because of space limitations. Don't act like adding it is an easy or effortless task.

Edit: Darn Octane beat me to it.

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Snaplocket

@Ralizah So you're saying it's okay to skip on what is most likely one of the best games of the year just because it doesn't have Japanese voices? Are you saying if BOTW never got patched to support multiple languages, it would be okay to skip it? Would you say that since none of the Mario games had Japanese voices it would be okay to skip those? Do you have any idea how illogical that thought process is?

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Ralizah

@Snaplocket It's perfectly okay to skip any game for any reason. It's a hobby, dude: nobody is obligated to purchase anything. What's irrational is you trying to impose your values on what purchasing decisions other people make.

Moreover, just because you don't think something is important doesn't mean other people feel the same way. Different people value different things. I'm largely done purchasing PS4 games, for example, because I enjoy playing games more on portable platforms. Some people might think that's stupid, but, frankly, what purchasing decisions I make isn't any of their business. Likewise, if someone tells me they can't play a game if it isn't running at a locked 60fps, I might think that's stupid, but it's not my place to judge their purchasing decisions. Obviously the framerate of a game is a lot more important to them than it is to me.

Different strokes and whatnot.

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KirbyTheVampire

I find it pretty cringy when people use Japanese audio and English subs. Whatever floats your boat, though.

I will say that if anyone skips a game for that reason, they're either major, major weaboos, or they didn't really care about the game anyway.

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Snaplocket

@Ralizah Hey, I love the Switch but I'm not skipping YS VIII or Danganronpa v3 just because they aren't on it. I'm a fan of those franchises.

@KirbyTheVampire I completely agree. They're also the vocal minority.

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Ralizah

@Snaplocket Ys VIII and Danganronpa V3 are both available on portable platforms. I'll be downloading DR V3 on my Vita. Not getting Ys VIII, though, because nothing about that series catches my interest.

If I love a franchise enough, though, I'll put up with playing it on a stationary platform: which is why I spent roughly 115 hours recently on Persona 5. It's just not my preference so, by and large, I'll avoid buying PS4 games that aren't exclusives.

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Snaplocket

@Ralizah I don't own a Vita. ( and never will, because there're almost no exclusives for it after 5 years on the market )

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SMEXIZELDAMAN

Japanese voices are better that's why. Its a necessity!

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Ralizah

@Snaplocket It used to have a ton of exclusives, but most of them moved off to other platforms in recent years.

The Vita gives me access to a lot of different series without being tethered to a TV or monitor, so I still get a lot of use out of mine. I'd give up my PS4 long before I ditched the Vita.

Also worth noting: even in its current state, the Vita still has more exclusives than the Xbox One.

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Ryu_Niiyama

This is an odd thread. People can veto games for whatever reason that they want to. It almost seems like you want to understand why some people prefer dual audio but then you chastise them for making the decision to skip a game due to lack of Japanese audio. People like what they like and then vote with their wallets. Their decision is subjective...nothing wrong with that. I didn't notice the lack of dual audio news though... I will be importing this one from Japan then.

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Snaplocket

@SMEXIZELDAMAN You again? (please tell me he's being sarcastic)

@Ralizah Fair enough I guess. I already have access to a PS3, Steam, and a PS4 so I have basically zero reason to own one. The only Vita games I can think of that were exclusives that were then ported were Gravity Rush and Teraway. Heck, the Switch is getting 5 Nintendo published exclusives in its first year.

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Snaplocket

@Ryu_Niiyama My point is choosing not to buy what is otherwise a superb game just because it doesn't have Japanese voices is, no matter how you slice it, not a very good reason at all. It comes off as incredibly nit-picky and trust me, the number of people who skip these games because of it is nowhere near as big as it thinks it is.

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Ryu_Niiyama

@Snaplocket Why isn't it a good reason? If a person doesn't want to play a game for whatever reason it is their prerogative. We aren't required to all have the same gaming library. I don't think those that skip a game really care if they are in good company. They are doing what works for them. That allows them to enjoy this hobby best.

So you still aren't making an well articulated point. You are basically stating that you like a game and its features and that if someone else doesn't like that feature set they are wrong. Any purchase made is done for subjective reasons so it is very hard to impose a guideline for what is an acceptable reason to purchase something.

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