Topic: Do you think time travel would be possible? Why?

@Roopa132-But, if time travel to the future is possible, then time travel to the past should be possible. I mean time travel should be able to go both ways. If people can leap forward in time, wouldn't it be possible to leap backwards in time? As for alternate universes, I would like to believe in those, but I believe there is only one timeline.

@Alejandro_Talavera: I think eternity in the Bible means timeless existence but I wont pretend to know all the answers. As for what's there, I believe God is.

@Outrunner: I'm not trying to start anything, I've chatted with you and we got on so really don't want to offend. But, I'd like to now what form you think God may take. Is it a someone? Or a something? Or something else? I'm not looking to mock you I am genuinely interested in your response.

No offence taken man. To me God is 'someone'. I talk to Him everday and believe He's answered quite a lot of my prayers. Not all of them like, because I believe He knows what's best.
The Bible (which I believe to be the inspired Word of God) says God is spirit. Although He did enter time (His creation) in the person of Jesus Christ.
Like I said Machu, I wouldn't take offence just because you don't agree with my beliefs, nor do I want to force them down your throat. Thanks for bein respectful man.

@Roopa132: But you can travel to the past without creating paradoxes. In a sciece-fiction short story I just finished, time is a line always moving forward. the past and future are right angles from the current moment you are in. If you travel across these to the past, you could kill your parents or your grandparents and you'd still be there, because you're in a different universe.

Questions?

@Nathan
Yeah, the only ones that really take the Geocentric model as a logical option are those that try to combine religion and science and fail. What are you going to propose next, that the earth is actually flat?

I also got a chuckle out of you mentioning school indoctrination considering you brought religion into the thread.

@Outrunner: 80% of my family are religious, and I still love and respect them. Glad we can live on the same plane with different views, conscious of the fact that one or both of us, are completely wrong. I'm glad God helps you, maybe one day I'll meet him too, you never know.

@Machu: Same here
@Starkiller: Right angles... interesting way to explain it!
@Outrunner: Thank you for your answers.
@Nathan: Once again
... Who can actually assure you something is true just because an author signed it???
... Yes, I know I have the same odds to be right than to be wrong, but I am happy to at last trying to get the right answers alone. And I try to back it up with arguments and facts, not just messing with other people's wrong words.
... Yes, I also think we are all insignificant. I am not that selfish to think that we should be that important to the rest of the universe just because we are important in our conciousness and feelings result of complex neurological interactions and nothing more (Simple example: Nintendo games are so important to me, but that doesnt mean its as important for others, that may prefer Sony or Ms, or might not even like gaming). What a miope point of view!

hi i just found this thread (after the twin one on time traveling)

i think IF anyone has ever discovered time traveling, or will ever do it, this is a too hot potato for the government that discovers it

including secret services, agencies and so on

imagine for only one second how could you change the history of the world

time-sabotage making Usa the powerful country which it is (in which way sabotage? in 250.000 ways)

Political Changes, Scientifical discoveries, Murders, Global Banking situations, Wars, Drugs and Gambling (Weapon sellers, Mafia etc)

what some countries want is Power in every field
Time Machine is the key to every possible immaginable Power

(let's say, we idiots say, why not go back to 1940 and Kill Hitler ? yes that would be nice - a part all the problems of doing it - but the existence of Hitler was a wall between the western side of Europe and the Communists (Urss, communists and Hitler had quit a long and painful fight, if Hitler wasnt there, would the Comunist reach Paris ?, factor 2, the existence of Hitler - which caused dead, blood, and infinite losses of every kind, caused-forced America to come in Europe and eventually they couldnt care less, but while 'investing' in sending troops to Europe, and buying new weapons (weapons lords thank you - connected with top political parties and their bank accounts) America got a loyal party for a long time at its side (America-Europe) and many countries are still paying back the American Effort (not talking about the dependance) +++ American Bases everywere in Europe - imagine the same scenario with all ISlamic or Communist Bases in France, Germany, Italy, Spain etc ---

you may let planes crash or not on the twin towers, to have a reason to start a war, which causes money took from the american people (like selling a product, in mass) buying new weapons, moving to Iraq, earn Petroil places in Iraq, and control the Area (for later purposes, Afghanistan-Iran- Gasoline/Petroil engine of the modern civilization, who's got the hands on it, controls the future -or the present or the past -) now i wish i could speak english better,

IF this time machine would ever exists, you would see one state hiding it to another (rivals who have secret services etc) because if i have it, i can let your country have troubles, not grow, grow wrongly and push everything good to my side (good= good and bad, with the final meaning of economical-power advantage, even with bloody facts)

forget that it would be public, forget it, and forget that you can travel and change things yourself
(a terrorist now can get a plane and make 200 people day, and the company lose its plane - but they have insurance and get it paid back ?)
imagine what if everyone have the chance to travel, someone can go back and kill Columbus (just killing columbus may change history and USA current power, and delay it by 100 years, making Usa like Canada or Australia , all this missing power then has to go somewere else)

going in certain moments of the past could lead Muslim fanatists (not normal religious respectable people, but fanatist) turn Europe Muslim to London, maybe 1500-2000 years ago (or the opposite all christian, or a christian world = wow it happened, partially)

see Einstein, IF he stayed in Germany and made Nuke, he could have made it for Nazis (under Nazi's order, against his will)
but if you can change the time, you can offer him a ticket (WHEN GERMANY STILL LET YOU GO OUT) and finance him in America (which means nuke power FIRST in US hands, consequent attack to Japan, Japan economical Slavery and enemy erased)

you could find 10000000000000000000000000 of things to change, i only said a few.

i cant say it exists by now already,or it will exists in the future (the future American Government lets say of the year 5.500 is changing the past already, not the really current one, that has been contacted anyway, making a link of knowledge)

why do states attack other places, why do they go at war, who wants to know wonderful scientific discoveries (over other countries), who would like to be Gasoline Independant (no more cash to the Arabs) BUT you must make that NEW power source PROFIPTABLE to the mass, and to other countries, not that everybody can make his own green treen producing energy like a nuclear plant (it would be so damn good, but you cannot earn anymore a single cent)

then i would understand more AREA 51 (or any other areas) more like landing side of Time Travels, than hosting Ufos
(we always ask, WHAT ARE THEY HIDING THERE ? WHY KEEP OUT ?)

we believe in extraterrestrial beings being opened like chicken, but thats probably what they want us to know.
since opening an alien wont give you anything, no advante by Just Only Scientific knowledge, worth 0 in money and power (what they want) and then they say but they have deals with Aliens (so they kill themselves and tell Bush: put me in a Laboratory and Open me)

going back to Ufos, i was also thinking that those people may be eventually ourselves in 10.000 years (a bit of evolution, a bit of looking different on purpose, so we dont think they are humans, so the travel thing stays covered)

another good reason for the things i wrote above, is the creation in Laboratory of New and Newer Viruses, which cause death, the more are the death, the more people are at risk of, the longer it lasts (in years, decades) the more every state will want a solution, when the Cow has been Milked enough, some American Pharmaceutical Industry (pick one random) will wake up in the morning and say: WE HAVE DISCOVERED THE VERY DEFINITIVE CURE TO HIV-AIDS !!! (you can stop getting traditional HIV medicine Cocktails) every state (just like the Swine Flu now) will order ZILLIONS of kits for zillions of people (that means TriZillions of thousend of Billions of Dollars / or Euros)

• but it will be a 85% solution, so i keep for a second try the 100% one, so i can MILK you twice !

(a very smaller example i tell you about, years ago, long ago, i made a new account at HOTMAiL, i made ON PURPOSE a very difficult name of this new email account, lets say something like marymaryjohr_rashia.nkLOL12åäö@hotmaail.com (using non english characters, and even things like _ -)AND i didnt give this information to anyone, nobody could contact me, then what ? at that time the site (And not only that site) was fullfilled of ADS about Premium Services that if you pay more THEY PROTECT YOU FROM SPAM (some year later Hotmeeeeil got acquired by Microsoft - touche -)

i was the only person knowing that email, nobody could EVER guess it (like maryjohn@h
...)

whithin 2 days, i got starting SPAM !!!!

then the things are 3 :

1) Hackers entered at Hotmail and downloaded the account lists (WHAT A COINCIDENCE! THEy were waiting for me damn spammers-hackers)
2) that company herself created PROBLEM and SOLUTION (under payment) * if the problem doesnt exists, there is no reason for a solution (paid)
and how you want the business to continue living ? how do they pay the hardwares, the salaries, how do they make Revenues for ShareHolders ?
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Independant Hackers want to risk their lives for hacking or creating a virus ? a part few cases, most of them are Funded by the Big Companies
then casually they go in front of a Judge, but funnily they get a job inside the companies that they violated
WOULD YOU HIRE THE THIEF OF YOUR SHOP ? they was paid to make alarm, they was paid to enter (since yesterday you told me nobody can enter!)
they dont go to prison! they get a 5 zeros Salary! they come back to mama !
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3) someone inside that company sold lists to some companies buying emails, but considering it happened in 1-2 days (this had to be a pretty scheduled and refreshed task) that makes think how the company herself didnt notice about it.

this is the very same structure of how things work at high level in wars-drugs-business-mafia-pharmaceutics and so on

IF Computer Viruses would stop existing, how many American (and not only) Companies would stop milking ? (do 500.000 Virus variants come from a Nerd that likes to infect people's computer ? or they come from the Labs of who has to sell the product for another 50 y ears ?

*** the english man with some kind of problems who entered the american secret services servers looking for UFOS(lol) datas ***
isnt that a nice TV SPOT for every world company to tell them DO YOU SEE ? THEY EVEN VIOLATE THE MOST SAFE PLACE OF THE WORLD, you better invest in powerful hardware and software, yes it costs, but your data is SAFE

**** the very same goes to NY 11 Sept. DO YOU SEE ? THEY EVEN VIOLATED THE CENTR OF NY ! *****
how is it possible, you told me the tale that for 100 years America is unaccessible, Fly space is the same (how can a plane crash on the PENTAGON? is that your sky watch-defense?) purposely weakened

of course they wont tell you
but not for fun, just because they are part of it, and if they do, they fall

just like those American Bankers that crashed in the last months, they wouldnt tell you anything until they cracked down (but it was too late for the investors, the small ones)

No.

The Lost season 6 premiere episode title is... 'LA X'. OMFG!!!!

And if you think that's off topic, you obviously don't watch the show. My mind, and some outlandish theories, are running hand in hand along a sun-drenched beach. We are oblivious to the plane wreckage and the screaming, been there, done that.

No, because if it were, an Agent would have silenced MauWii before he gave up all the world's secrets - which, because he was silenced, would never have actually been given up, thus alleviating his need to be silenced.... <head explodes>

No. The past is simply memories - physical records. I think the only plausible way to "travel" into the future is, say, to invent a way to keep you from ageing and then be put to sleep - which I don't think will ever happen.

No the past is merely a collection of atoms all arranged in a certain way.If it was possible to arrange those atoms in the exact same way again then the past would become the present.Yes it's long way off but I bet 5000 years ago man would have said that travelling in space would never happen.Don't underestimate our unique (on this planet!) ability to invent and create amazing things.We are very close to being able to do pretty much anything we can think off,once quantum physics is truly understood and with our knowledge of DNA we will be able to shape this world and others anyway we want.I truly believe that if the human race survives (and that could be the stumbling block ) long enough then we will crack time travel.Now if only the human race could be trusted with that power we could have an amazing future (or past. ).

Time is relative and a construct that was given a name to describe motion. Our understanding of physics is that we live and perceive only four dimensions out of the possible thirteen. A four dimensional world seen via, X/Y/Z planes or height, width and depth. The fourth dimension of motion. All time is a measurement of the motion we detect. As with our current structure, three hundred and sixty-five days the Earth it takes to orbit the our star. Twenty-four hours is the time it takes the Earth rotate on its axis broken further down.

If a body in motion stays in motion until acted upon by a equal or greater force? How would altering past-tense motion? Traveling back in time? In Back to the Future, Micheal J Fox changed his reality with the help of a time machine. Could this happen, I would think if the possibility of reverse travel, yes, it could, possibly. But think of this, if Marty McFly used a time machine to travel back in time, that means time line 1, Marty knows the Doc. Well, in time line 2, his life is changed and his parents are respected and wealthy. But he still knows the Doc and he still traveled back in time and remembered his life before. The would not be due to the fact when the time line changed, his memories should have changed. Even if he is at a different place in the time line, he was in the correct place growing up and would have those memories and would not be shocked to know his father purchased a pickup for him.
In the second movie, Marty heads forward, this in itself should not pose a paradox as reverse travel would as any encounters would not effect previous time lines and distort Marty's reality.
I am sorry for using those movies, but the movies defy physics and the nature of the flow of motion(time). Is it possible to travel through time, I would say with our limited intelligence, we may never know as we do not have an understanding of the universe and the flow of motion in general. More so, answer me this, why does time fly when you are having fun? Or why does time go by faster when you get older?
Perspective and perception...As you get older, you have a better understanding of how much time flows. When you are ten years old, a year is an eternity. Namely due to the fact that a year is one-tenth of your life. Now, if you are thirty years old, a year seems to be faster as it is one-thirtieth of your life, make sense? As far as fun time flying, well, when you mind is occupied by an activity that engages your brain, you are less likely to watch the clock as you not worried as to the amount of time you have left to endure. Therefore you occasionally glance at the clock versus check it every five minutes.
Is time travel possible? Can humans act upon it with an equal or greater force? Do we have the knowledge to travel out of the dimensions we know? I would say no, we cannot travel through time.

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