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Topic: Can a bad game have good sequels?

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Bass_X0	1. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 13:06 GMT All to often I hear people say that just because a game is bad, it shouldn't be given any more sequels because they are also expected to be bad. I disagree. Bad games can have good sequels. You only have to look at Street Fighter for proof. It just depends on how much a developer learns from the feedback of their bad game and how they use it to prevent the sequel from becoming a bad game.
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Whirlpool	2. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 13:10 GMT Street Fighter is a really good example, considering Capcom is rejecting its own existance I have to say it doesn't, because not many people would give a bad game a sequel, much less a good sequel. I'll give you an example if I ever find one. Edited on Mon 25th February, 2013 @ 13:10 by Whirlpool
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Jaz007	3. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 14:21 GMT Yes, they can. Red Steel 2 was a great game and most people thought that while most people thought the first one was a bad game. I've only played 2 though.
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3Dash	4. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 14:26 GMT Yep. ...just, at the moment, I can't think of an example. I feel like I was just thinking of one earlier...
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SheldonRandoms	5. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 14:36 GMT Spider Man 2 was better then the first one (i'm talking about the video game of course)
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Tasuki	6. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 15:42 GMT Sure, sequels are meant to be better than the previous games. Even with a bad game they can completely redo the gameplay or whatever made the first game so bad with a sequel.
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Splat	7. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 16:46 GMT Jaz007 wrote: Yes, they can. Red Steel 2 was a great game and most people thought that while most people thought the first one was a bad game. I've only played 2 though. First game that came to mind. I thought the first game was awful but loved Red Steel 2. Edited on Mon 25th February, 2013 @ 16:46 by Splat
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Knux	8. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 17:10 GMT Yes, Metroid is a prime example.
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kkslider5552000	9. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 19:00 GMT Knux wrote: Yes, Metroid is a prime example. Kid Icarus too.
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SomeBitTripFan	10. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 23:45 GMT Knux wrote: Yes, Metroid is a prime example. I thought I was the only fan of Echos. I never understood why people hated it.
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Morphtorok	11. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 23:48 GMT SomeBitTripFan wrote: Knux wrote: Yes, Metroid is a prime example. I thought I was the only fan of Echos. I never understood why people hated it. "Metroid is a prime example" Not "Metroid Prime is an example"
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Bankai	12. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 23:55 GMT Bass_X0 wrote: All to often I hear people say that just because a game is bad, it shouldn't be given any more sequels because they are also expected to be bad. I disagree. Bad games can have good sequels. You only have to look at Street Fighter for proof. It just depends on how much a developer learns from the feedback of their bad game and how they use it to prevent the sequel from becoming a bad game. Hyperdimenson Neptunia. The first game was a real push to enjoy (and for people less into weird Japanese RPGs than me, this means "woeful"), but the second game was a massive, massive improvement.
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Ark_Sin	13. Posted: Mon 25th Feb 2013 23:58 GMT I know a game franchise that spawns both good and terrible sequels: Sonic the Hedgehog.
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Pikminsi	14. Posted: Tue 26th Feb 2013 00:03 GMT Well I know that sequels can be far better than the originals, even when the original was fun. Such as Portal 2 and Half-Life 2
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Ark_Sin	15. Posted: Tue 26th Feb 2013 00:04 GMT @Pikminsi Too bad 3 will never come...
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Pikminsi	16. Posted: Tue 26th Feb 2013 00:14 GMT CaptainMorpheus wrote: @Pikminsi Too bad 3 will never come... Yeah... My very last hope for a 3 will be at this e3 with the coming Steam Box. (Probably shouldn't get my hopes up though)
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moomoo	17. Posted: Tue 26th Feb 2013 00:29 GMT Red Steel 2 immediately comes to mind for me too. On a lesser gravity from "bad" to "heavily flawed", Assassin's Creed 2 comes to mind as well. Generally speaking, though, bad games don't get sequels.
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Nibelilt	18. Posted: Tue 26th Feb 2013 02:05 GMT In my opinion the original Skylanders on console was pretty bad but Giants on console is pretty awesome.
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RancidVomit86	19. Posted: Tue 26th Feb 2013 02:36 GMT Yes.
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