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Chucko

I`m not gonna say I believe, but if they ARE real, I wouldn`t be surprised.

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Kholdstare

I have had ghostly experiences my whole life ... When i was 4 i saw a couple in the closet of my room who apparently died 10 years before ... they looked sad and told me they wanted me to join them ... they pointed to a power cord and told me to bite it ... being as young and stupid as i was, i didn't know what they meant by “join them” so i did it and was dead for about an hour ... turns out they died in that house in a double suicide ... depressed because they were unable to have kids ... i still see things to this day ... its just a part of my life... a gift i never wanted...

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AlexSays

protozone wrote:

There is only one recorded ghost murder, except it was supposedly a daemon.

Exactly

It'd be much easier to make up one fake ghost murder than to cover up a bunch of real ones.

sykotek wrote:

I believe that I don't know everything

See some of us don't have that problem. lol

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sykotek

Did anyone watch the videos I linked? Scary huh? Like many, I've had unexplainable events in my life that I've attempted to break down and try to understand. Simply blaming ghosts or witches or etc without attempting to understand primarily show a lack of education, no offense to anyone that blames everything on ghosts/witchcraft. Occasionally though, there will be some things that you can't simply explain away. Its to be expected, you can't expect to know everything.

shake_zula wrote:

I like the multiverse theory but I don't think it accounts for ghost sightings. I think it'd work volumetrically rather than affecting specific bodies of matter, i.e. if two universes crossed you'd see a shift or a phasing of your entire surroundings, it wouldn't just place one individual being into the same room in another universe. If this was happening there'd be accounts of environments changing dramatically... If you think about how wildy different 99.999% of universes must be (I realise 99.999% of infinite doesn't make sense but you get my point!) then for every "ghost sighting" you'd have several reported incidents of random objects or areas completely transforming.

I don't know how to explain ghosts. I definitely don't believe in a human spirit or soul, but I also find it difficult to have little enough faith in the human psyche to disregard the thousands upon thousands of reports. They can't all be crazy, surely? SOMETHING IS AFOOT

As a believer in my own multiverse theory(I didn't see Machu's as of the time of my first post), I must say that not all universes have to be wildly different, at least not necessarily observable to the naked eye. It is perfectly conceivable that some people are able to experience things that they believe they ghosts because they are under the influence of stress, drugs or a chemical unbalance or something as their consciousness is bridging 2 separate, but parallel universes. They're always referred to parallel as they don't intersect, so you wouldn't necessarily have dozens of objects simply appearing or transforming all over the place to everyone, just that there may suddenly be beings of other dimensions that you observe and why they don't interact with you necessarily is because they might not see you or if they do, they may see you as a ghost.

I'll attempt to give an example, but I may not be conveying it exactly as it is in my head. Most experiences happen in a home right? There are few people in your home. You see 1 ghost, its possible that the ghost you see could be in your home in a different universe. They never show up clearly, only hazy or like a shadow. Say that you visit a hospital that you hear is haunted and suddenly, you have more than one experience, you see more than one ghost. Well, possibly in a different universe, in that hospital, there could be many people there and that doesn't even begin to truly go into what I actually think because I believe that universes operate on different periods of time as well.

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Update: Didn't quote correctly.

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Axoloth

PhoenixSage wrote:

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yes, because it's more fun.

This. And kinda sorta what Raylax said.
I like believing all sorts of supernatural things are going on myself, 'cause reality is so boring.

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shake_zula

@sykotek: My point was that there wouldn't just be sightings of people, there'd be changes in the environment too, never mind how dramatic the changes are. It doesn't make sense to think that this observation into another universe would be limited to an individual body. In such a theory you'd be attributing a special quality to the human person that somehow makes it distinct from the rest of matter. Nobody ever sees ghost books, for example, or ghost televisions, it's always people. That's why I don't think a multiverse theory can explain it.

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sykotek

@shake_zula: lol, I know you've missed my point now. Every action that could have a result creates a separate universe, so it would only have to be a bit different from your universe to be a different one. The result of a different universe could be as trivial from you deciding to eat breakfast in the morning or not. That would make 2 universes that are the exact same with the exception of and the impact of you not eating breakfast. It doesn't need to necessarily be one where everyone is evil has a goatee and dresses sexier. Perhaps we see other people because what people experience from ghost sightings is another consciousness which is something that inanimate objects may not have.

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ASDFGHJKL

Well, people used to think that Lightining was black magic, and Thunder was the spirits yelling.

Same thing with a lot of paranormal stuff we dont understand. Im sure there is a reason we percieve it and im sure one day humans will understand it.

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Percentful

Of course I do. It wouldn't make sense to not believe in myself, would it?
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shake_zula

sykotek wrote:

@shake_zula: lol, I know you've missed my point now. Every action that could have a result creates a separate universe, so it would only have to be a bit different from your universe to be a different one. The result of a different universe could be as trivial from you deciding to eat breakfast in the morning or not. That would make 2 universes that are the exact same with the exception of and the impact of you not eating breakfast. It doesn't need to necessarily be one where everyone is evil has a goatee and dresses sexier. Perhaps we see other people because what people experience from ghost sightings is another consciousness which is something that inanimate objects may not have.

Yeah some universes would be extremely similar, but in a standard multiverse theory that involves infinite universes, there would be a lot more universes that are completely different. There would technically be infinite "similar" universes and infinite "different" ones, but the probability of encountering a similar one would be much lower. So even though this theory allows for sightings of very similar universes, it would also predict more frequent sightings of very different universes, which we never hear reports of.

A property which differentiates between human lifeforms and inanimate objects is the same concept as a soul or spirit, which is something I personally don't believe in. We're simply more complex objects made from the same building blocks as everything else.

So yeah, that's why I don't think it's a credible theory to explain this phenomenon.

shake_zula

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SpentAllMyTokens

sykotek wrote:

It doesn't need to necessarily be one where everyone is evil has a goatee and dresses sexier.

Where I live everyone is evil, has a goatee, and dresses really sexy. Is it not like that where you live?

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sykotek

@Token Girl: ...as a matter of fact, I'm primarily in it for myself, but I try to take some time to help others when I can, I do have a goatee and what's wrong with dressing nice?

@shake_zula: I stated consciousness and you're obviously looking at a larger picture while I'm looking on a smaller localized scale, but doesn't have larger scale environmental differences. Also, as far as I know, things need to be observed to have results and inanimate objects may not have a similar observational quality needed. That is my interpretation of string theory. Actions of seeming inconsequence result in change, but not necessarily of widespread worldwide change to the environment in my thoughts.
Back to the breakfast example,
In universe A, you skip breakfast, leave home, hop in your car and head to work. At lunch, you bump into someone who you'll eventually date and marry.
In universe B, you eat breakfast, leave home, find out your car has been taken by your sister, take the bus and get to work late. You decide to skip lunch because you have more work than usual because you were late and eventually you leave work, come home and post on Nintendo Life where sykotek decides to give a long winded scenario where actions are different, yet the environment stays pretty much the same and then he decides to pull his "I'm always right card," since its his universe and then type, "la la la, I'm not listening."

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Acidfoxdyi831

i do now even more, because i seen the walk through they had in Micheal jacksons house and its was a figure walkin across the hallway on camera

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SuperMarioFan96

What I don't understand about ghosts is why they only show up at night and seem to scare people. These are supposed to be people who are dead now, aren't they? Do people just become bitter and enjoy scaring people when they're dead? Why are there never any ghosts during the day? Why aren't they ever friendly? I just don't get it...

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sykotek

@GameLord08: lol, its a joke, from Star Trek about parallel universes. I didn't think it'd be the best idea to elude to anything provocative on my person for fear there could be preteens reading the thread as this is a Nintendo fan site, but yes, I do understand that I'm being conservative, its for the children. I've been on self censorship pretty much the whole time I've posted here.

What is the meaning of life? That's so easy, the answer is TETRIS.

sykotek

@irken004: Only robot aliens from the planet Cybertron, lol.

What is the meaning of life? That's so easy, the answer is TETRIS.

sykotek

@GameLord08: Ah, well, no offense, we're all young at one point in our lives. Enjoy it. Luckily for me, I'm still young at heart(means I'm old). lol

What is the meaning of life? That's so easy, the answer is TETRIS.

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