Look through the history of game companies. Those who are in the best posistion, Nintendo included, tend to get cocky and screw things up. Nintendo may not STAY in the best position much longer if they don't take action now. They've outsold other consoles for a long time largely because of the huge price gap between them. With that mostly out of the way, it would be wise to expect sales to decline. No matter what Nintendo says, this IS a competitive market, after all.
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Wii shouldn't be too tough of a sell. In a broad sense, yes, the Wii deal isn't as attractive as it once was. When you get people to understand the physical experience of it and recommend the right software (like WSR), the Wii will sound more fun to the average consumer than the multimedia consoles. Just recommend the Wii and a couple of games, Wii Play being the other one, and don't fill the customers head with too much jargon about Wi-Fi and channels and such. I'm sure there are more people curious about Wii than you possibly realize.
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Only game fans see companies as 'cocky' or 'arrogant'
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Nintendo has no competition for its most successful games, at least not on competingin platforms. Riddle me the PS3/360 equivilant of Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Mario Kart Wii.
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Wii Resort, WIi FIt Plus, New Super Mario.
They might be giants. Cocky has nothing to do with it, it is the product. Gamecube had a great library but it focused mostly on 3-d camera - 3-d games of exisiting franchises. Wii has broader game design - back to the roots of arcade gaming. Nice contrast to photrealisitc narrative gaming.
Cocky has nothing to do with it.
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Is funny how people (even Nintendo fans) doesn't realize that the HD machines needed to drop the price in order to sell as the wii in their worst times. If you really think that INCREDIBLY SMALL BUMP ON SALES will sustain for years you are dellusional. It didn't happened with the saturn, it didn't happened with the dreamcast, it didn't happened with the Gamecube, it won't happen now. Nintendo has more things to worry than that.
I'm not sure why some are getting so defensive of Nintendo over this. This is pretty significant. It's arguably the first time that the PS360 have outsold the Wii when the number of Wiis sold was not artificially limited by being out of stock.
People might dismiss this by pointing out that the PS360 needed to lower the price before it could beat Wii, but they never really consider it conversely: previously, the Wii needed to be lower in price to beat the PS360!
I know people hate VGChartz but..... (Blue: Wii, Red: PS3, Green: 360) highlighted area shows the highest and lowest "non holiday" sales for Wii this year. That recent peak for the Wii? Wii Sports Resort. Before that? nothing. I don't think the Wii needs a price-cut yet because it seems to be selling quite well considering we are in a recession and there haven't really been any big games this year. Its not "good" but its not as ridiculously bad as the headlines make it out to be and its not unexpected.
I have a feeling that with New SMB Wii, Wii Fit Plus, Wii Sports Resort, Metriod Prime Trilogy, Guitar Hero 5 and Beatles Rock Band the Wii will do quite well in the next few months and this holiday season. If a salesman is complaining that the Wii is hard to sell to most people... they are doing a bad job.
I'm not sure why some are getting so defensive of Nintendo over this. This is pretty significant. It's arguably the first time that the PS360 have outsold the Wii when the number of Wiis sold was not artificially limited by being out of stock.
People might dismiss this by pointing out that the PS360 needed to lower the price before it could beat Wii, but they never really consider it conversely: previously, the Wii needed to be lower in price to beat the PS360!
This is just you perception of nonexistent 'defense' of Nintendo. There is nothing to defend or validate here. This topic is just generally offensive to intelligence.
All that is being defended here that I can see is logic - over hyperbole, hyperventilating, and chicken littleism.
Wait unitl you likely see the 'significance' of a short term sales spike...we wagerly await you analysis of that...
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@skywake: Thank you SO much for personally insulting me! Obviously, you don't work video game retail (particularly at Gamestop, which has very annoying clientel a lot of times). Around here, consoles sell more on price and perceived hardware value than on software. No, it doesn't make sense, but that's the way it is. I CAN'T sell a Wii to someone who's all like "but I want the best stuff, and at only $50 more, I can actually afford it!" Rock Band and Guitar Hero aren't going to sell the Wii because superior versions of those games are available on PS3 and 360. Metroid Prime Trilogy has thus far met with VERY disappointing sales (though that will hopefully pick up soon), and the majority of Wii Sports Resort copies are selling to people who already OWN Wii's, so that's not increasing system sales as much as you seem to think, either (again, at least not where I work, which is what counts for my personal selling ability, which is what you insulted).
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Admittedly I can only base my assumptions on what I have seen where I live so I really can't see what you are talking about. Wii Sports Resort is quite literally driving sales for the Wii (I have seen it first hand and the sales charts seem to support it) so while the majority of people buying it may already have a Wii, as is the case with just about every major game, it is certainty driving sales.
But hey, maybe the US is a different story entirely. The Wii has always performed worse in comparison to its competitors in the US so maybe in the US the Wii has flat-lined and died completely. Oh look, there is the Wii Sports Resort spike and there is the PS3/360 price-cut spike. The Wii is surely doomed unless they cut the price! I wonder what will happen when Wii Fit Plus launches....
Well id stuffgamer works at gamestop - I guess that is the final word..... ;(
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@orlick & skywake: I don't have the final word on Wii sales in the entire COUNTRY, of course. I can only speak for my personal experiences in the Baltimore/Washington DC area, and specifically the store I work in. And the Wii isn't looking so hot anymore around here. "Casual" gamers who only want a couple games a year can find plenty to get on the PS3 or 360, without being flooded by casual-targeting shovelware. Sony is now advertising the PS3 for "family togetherness," with LittleBigPlanet and Blu-Ray in the forefront (and whatever a person may have to say about the game or format, they work well in that position, especially for any customer who has an HDTV). Microsoft has its own family-friendly campaign on-going, and it's working fairly well from what I've seen.
If you don't assume the customer will ONLY be interested in the Wii because of the Wiimote/Balance Board (and not everyone is, to be sure), and they aren't some long-time gamer who'll be instantly drawn to Nintendo franchises, it really isn't going to be too easy to sell them a Wii. Not like it was when the competition was $600 and $400, certainly. I'm not saying that Nintendo is DOOMED the way things are going, anyway. Just that a price drop would DEFINITELY help secure their position. Three years without a hardware price drop was unheard of before the Wii came along, and it's just getting ridiculous!
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