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Jazzer94

UGXwolf wrote:

@cookiex "building onthat approach." Means they won't focus on the on-sight presence, so much as the online presence and local presence. I see nothing there that actually deconfirms a conference.

Did they have one last year no so taking the quote @cookiex provided I think we can all come to the logical conclusion that they won't be having one this year either, doesn't really need confirming when Nintendo have spelled it out for you to read.

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jariw

In the "Play Nintendo" video, they seems to quite clearly announce both Zelda and Yoshi, meaning that the surprises will be something else?

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LOL let's judge E3 AFTER E3 happens, okay?

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UGXwolf

No you guys are assuming. It's not like I'm saying there won't be one. I'm just getting severely annoyed by all the speculation turning into assumption and them bring called logic.

Stage presence doesn't negate online and local presence, and E3 is more than just the press conferences. Beyond that, from my understanding of the English language, there is nothing in that sentence that directly negates a 2014 E3 press conference. Only the 2013 press conference.

Reasonable assumptions are reasonable, yes, but acting like those reasonable assumptions are the God-given truth is silly and it irks me to see the frequency with which it happens.

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shingi_70

Nintendo already lost E3.

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Jazzer94

@UGXwolf Provide us with some solid evidence that Nintendo will have press conferences on stage (which you have failed to do so far) then maybe your point will actually have some weight behind it.

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MikeLove

Last year, everyone (journalists, media, fans, etc) viewed no E3 conference by Nintendo as them bending over and admitting that they couldn't compete with Xbox or Sony, and they weren't even going to try. That feeling still exists in the industry.

So how is skipping doing one again (which appears to be the case) going to benefit them this year?

It's all about optics. It's like how the Oscars only broadcasts the 'important' awards on TV (Sony/Xbox) while a bunch of technical and secondary awards (Nintendo) are done the night before with a tiny audience. Those other awards might be important too, but because they aren't deemed good enough to be handed out on TV, people assume they are crap.

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CaviarMeths

It's not surprising at all that the focus is on Smash. Smash is their huge holiday release. E3 is the single biggest holiday season advertisement for video games. Nintendo is putting their chips on Smash being THE system seller this Christmas. There will be other announcements of course, but hypehypehypepuppiesarecute.

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shingi_70 wrote:

Nintendo already lost E3.

They wouldn't have enough games to "win" E3 regardless due to their 3rd party situation. The Direct just confirms what everyone already knew.

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shingi_70 wrote:

Nintendo already lost E3.

And the award for biggest OVERREACTION goes to....................................... YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Let's wait until E3 actually happens to see who won and lost, okay? SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH!!!!

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Bolt_Strike

KennyPowers wrote:

Last year, everyone (journalists, media, fans, etc) viewed no E3 conference by Nintendo as them bending over and admitting that they couldn't compete with Xbox or Sony, and they weren't even going to try. That feeling still exists in the industry.

So how is skipping doing one again (which appears to be the case) going to benefit them this year?

It's all about optics. It's like how the Oscars only broadcasts the 'important' awards on TV (Sony/Xbox) while a bunch of technical and secondary awards (Nintendo) are done the night before with a tiny audience. Those other awards might be important too, but because they aren't deemed good enough to be handed out on TV, people assume they are crap.

Right on the money here. The big deal about having a presentation is being able to market themselves effectively to a larger audience, and Nintendo desperately needs that right now. Sticking with a livestream that only hardcore Nintendo fans would really be interested in watching doesn't really do that, it pretty much secures their status as a niche developer that the rest of the industry doesn't take seriously.

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UGXwolf

@Jazzer94 You missed the point entirely. Let me say it, again. I'm not saying, BY ANY MEANS, that there will be a conference. I'm even admitting right now that it does seem to be unlikely, if not at least not on their mind.

People tend to forget that what's unlikely isn't always everything that's possible, and something that isn't likely can still happen.

Don't forget what's improbable isn't always impossible. That's the biggest misconception of them all.

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2Sang

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Nintendo already lost E3.

While likely unfortunately, it's not true yet. I still have some faith that Iwata has something big planned. If not, he's as good as gone.

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Bolt_Strike wrote:

KennyPowers wrote:

Last year, everyone (journalists, media, fans, etc) viewed no E3 conference by Nintendo as them bending over and admitting that they couldn't compete with Xbox or Sony, and they weren't even going to try. That feeling still exists in the industry.

So how is skipping doing one again (which appears to be the case) going to benefit them this year?

It's all about optics. It's like how the Oscars only broadcasts the 'important' awards on TV (Sony/Xbox) while a bunch of technical and secondary awards (Nintendo) are done the night before with a tiny audience. Those other awards might be important too, but because they aren't deemed good enough to be handed out on TV, people assume they are crap.

Right on the money here. The big deal about having a presentation is being able to market themselves effectively to a larger audience, and Nintendo desperately needs that right now. Sticking with a livestream that only hardcore Nintendo fans would really be interested in watching doesn't really do that, it pretty much secures their status as a niche developer that the rest of the industry doesn't take seriously.

Who is this magical audience that watches the conferences and doesn't go to gaming sites?

Are they the same ones that were gonna buy a next gen console at launch for reasons other than gaming?

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Bolt_Strike

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Bolt_Strike wrote:

KennyPowers wrote:

Last year, everyone (journalists, media, fans, etc) viewed no E3 conference by Nintendo as them bending over and admitting that they couldn't compete with Xbox or Sony, and they weren't even going to try. That feeling still exists in the industry.

So how is skipping doing one again (which appears to be the case) going to benefit them this year?

It's all about optics. It's like how the Oscars only broadcasts the 'important' awards on TV (Sony/Xbox) while a bunch of technical and secondary awards (Nintendo) are done the night before with a tiny audience. Those other awards might be important too, but because they aren't deemed good enough to be handed out on TV, people assume they are crap.

Right on the money here. The big deal about having a presentation is being able to market themselves effectively to a larger audience, and Nintendo desperately needs that right now. Sticking with a livestream that only hardcore Nintendo fans would really be interested in watching doesn't really do that, it pretty much secures their status as a niche developer that the rest of the industry doesn't take seriously.

Who is this magical audience that watches the conferences and doesn't go to gaming sites?

Are they the same ones that were gonna buy a next gen console at launch for reasons other than gaming?

I didn't say they don't go to gaming sites, they don't go to Nintendo sites.

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Jazzer94

@UGXwolf I understood your point but I'm wondering more so if there is any evidence that points to Nintendo having a press conferences on stage as surely this would have been included in the information released today which it clearly wasn't.

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kkslider5552000

Bolt_Strike wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Bolt_Strike wrote:

KennyPowers wrote:

Last year, everyone (journalists, media, fans, etc) viewed no E3 conference by Nintendo as them bending over and admitting that they couldn't compete with Xbox or Sony, and they weren't even going to try. That feeling still exists in the industry.

So how is skipping doing one again (which appears to be the case) going to benefit them this year?

It's all about optics. It's like how the Oscars only broadcasts the 'important' awards on TV (Sony/Xbox) while a bunch of technical and secondary awards (Nintendo) are done the night before with a tiny audience. Those other awards might be important too, but because they aren't deemed good enough to be handed out on TV, people assume they are crap.

Right on the money here. The big deal about having a presentation is being able to market themselves effectively to a larger audience, and Nintendo desperately needs that right now. Sticking with a livestream that only hardcore Nintendo fans would really be interested in watching doesn't really do that, it pretty much secures their status as a niche developer that the rest of the industry doesn't take seriously.

Who is this magical audience that watches the conferences and doesn't go to gaming sites?

Are they the same ones that were gonna buy a next gen console at launch for reasons other than gaming?

I didn't say they don't go to gaming sites, they don't go to Nintendo sites.

but gaming sites already bring up Nintendo

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UGXwolf

2Sang wrote:

shingi_70 wrote:

Nintendo already lost E3.

While likely unfortunately, it's not true yet. I still have some faith that Iwata has something big planned. If not, he's as good as gone.

Somehow I really doubt that Iwata is going to get fired, if E3 doesn't match your expectations. Especially if you're seriously not considering what we already know to be "something big."

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