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Heavyarms55

@RR529 I grew up with Toonami & Adult Swim too. But that was many years ago. I've spent longer watching season anime first from sketchy probably illegal streaming sites with fan-subs then on Crunchyroll and sometimes Netflix. And since studying Japanese and moving to Japan, I can almost comfortably watch anime without subtitles - unless it's really heavy on technical terms or outright technobabble.

tr;dr I watched the US stuff too growing up but spent longer since then watching seasonal anime.

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CanisWolfred

To be fair, the fact that a lot of shows end on cliffhangers that never get resolved because they're based on ongoing source material is the number 1 reason why I gave up watching adaptations unless they were guaranteed successes that would try to adapt the whole series, or were based on source material I was already actively seeking out (which only happens rarely, but it does happen. See One Punch Man and Vinland Saga for examples). I'm tired of getting one or two seasons, and then being told to go read a book. They're two completely different experiences, and I vastly prefer the audio/visual experience anime brings to the table.

I grew up on Toonami as well, but the only thing that I feel needed to change with the times, was when I could watch when I wanted, not how long the stories were. This season's been an exception for me, since a lot of high-profile shows started up that have a really good chance of actually having an ending, but usually I've found more comfort watching older titles, or at least old-school inspired ones. I could try to watch a show like Attack on Titan or Demon Slayer, where they seem to rush through their plot beats to get the main events, but when I pop in a show like Space Runaway Ideon...it's just a much better experience for me. It takes the time to let the story breath, and gives the audience a chance to take in the characters, the setting, the music...it's no masterpiece, but it's definitely more my speed.

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Heavyarms55

Good lord I dropped Demon Slayer like a rotten potato. They ruined that show with the introduction of Inosuke and Zenitsu! But I've like more of AoT than I haven't. Although I almost dropped it when they had like 27 separate subplots going at once for side characters I didn't care about. The more recent season really pulled me back in having shifted focus back to the main cast.

Though I understand your point about anime adaptations of ongoing source material. I'm too much a gluten for anime. If I skipped over all the anime based on ongoing source material I'd be cutting off like half or more of what I watch. I need my Sunday after 3-5 hour anime marathon gosh darn it!

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CanisWolfred

Heavyarms55 wrote:

I need my Sunday after 3-5 hour anime marathon gosh darn it!

I mean, I tend to watch anime in week-long marathons, yet it doesn't stop me from being picky about what I watch.

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Heavyarms55

I don't mind a couple pieces of junk food alongside a few gourmet dishes. A show has to be pretty bad for me to abandon it or refuse to watch it outright. I have a habit of having 4-8 weekly anime that I am following. On average I actually really like maybe 2 of them, another 2-4 I consider decent time wasters and usually 1-2 "bad but entertaining".

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Heavyarms55

Everyone's got different tastes. Looking at average ratings, I tend to be a lot more harsh than most folks. Lots of shows I only consider decent, other people love.

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CanisWolfred

Heavyarms55 wrote:

Everyone's got different tastes. Looking at average ratings, I tend to be a lot more harsh than most folks. Lots of shows I only consider decent, other people love.

To be fair, I don't think I really "get" what the idea of a time waster. As in, like, I literally spent the last 2 hours reevaluating how I define the term and what generally comes to mind whenever it comes up in discussions. I understand that if you're enjoying a show, then I think that's all that really matters. I just happen to have a strict set of criteria on what I enjoy.

However, my mind tends to interpret "time-wasters" and "junkfood shows" as "I'm watching this to fill time and it could literally be anything, as long as lights are on screen and sounds are playing in the backround." Because I've been there, for real. I remember the hours I used to spend flipping through mind-numbing shows on TV just so I'd have something to watch, because I had effectively based my entire sense of self-worth on a square box in the living room. I remember how free I felt when I finally quit cold-turkey. I remember when I relapsed a year later, staying up late watching anything I could to numb my mind to the fact that I had to go to school in the morning...which I was usually too much of a zombie to handle, sometimes even passing out in the hallway.

My point is, I'm used to thinking of my hobbies as addictions I barely keep in check, so please forgive me when I hear you, and plenty of other anime fans, say that they spend a few hours every weekend watching shows you know aren't as good as something else you could be watching, and feel compelled to ask: "why are you wasting your time?" I've gotten so used have to justifying every episode I watch, as a part of my self-prescribed rehabilitation program, that I genuinely forgot it's not ingrained into the normal experience of watching anime.

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Heavyarms55

@CanisWolfred "I'm watching this to fill time and it could literally be anything, as long as lights are on screen and sounds are playing in the backround." - In that sense, then no, I'm not just watching any time wasters. When I say time waster I just mean something I consider nothing special in terms of quality, but I still am entertained by.

Your point about "watching shows you know aren't as good as something else you could be watching" isn't something I consider accurate. Unless we count rewatching things I've already seen. I'm not going to consciously choose something else when there is something better I know I can and want to watch at that moment.

And as for hobbies being an addiction you can barely keep in check? That's cool. I sometimes wish I could have something that I can just slam for the entire day. But even my favorite things, shows, games, food, drinks, I burn out on if I over do it. It does happen every now and then when I get really into something that, suddenly 12 hours go by and I'm confused why I am so hungry, but that's pretty uncommon. For me.

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CanisWolfred

@Heavyarms55 Yeah, I guess that makes more sense, not every show belongs on a pedestal, if I'm understanding you correctly. I know I very rarely watch certain kinds of shows, but if I'm in a certain mood, I'll lap it up. I'm thinking something like Sgt. Frog or Arakawa Under The Bridge. They're not my favorite shows ever, but I had fun when I was willing to give them a chance.

I didn't bother qualifying what shows I generally go towards, since it didn't seem important, but I should mention that I do burn out on stuff, too, but that usually only happens after something reaches an unhealthy stage - when it becomes "just a habit," instead of something I'm doing for fun. In the case of anime, I only seek out shows with compelling narratives that I think will pay off in the end, or ones that present interesting characters and locations that I desire to learn about. It doesn't always have to be a rollercoaster ride, but it does have to present a continuous stream of information that fuels my obsession.

...which honestly, never felt like a lot to ask for, and still doesn't, but I'm surprised just how much gets cut out of the seasonal line-up pretty much by default based on that criteria. If a story doesn't seem guarateed to reach a conclusion, if it is episodic and therefore isn't continuous, if the only world it presents lacks imagination, or the characters don't have a goal worth following - then I can't maintain the type of momentum I'm used to. That's part of what I was getting at when I said I needed to "qualify every episode I watched": It's okay for me to binge a story that's building upon itself, because if I stop now, I could miss out or forget information that'll be important later on. It's not okay for me to spend 12 hours watching a story that never goes anywhere, with characters that never accomplish anything, just so I can have something to watch. That's just depressing.

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Heavyarms55 wrote:

And as for hobbies being an addiction you can barely keep in check? That's cool. I sometimes wish I could have something that I can just slam for the entire day.

The grass is always greener on the other side. I wish I could watch a "junkfood show" without it feeling like a compulsion.

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Heavyarms55

@CanisWolfred You know, I was just thinking that exact quote this morning, like, word for word. "the grass is always greener on the other side".

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RR529

My first ever physical anime purchase! It's actually pretty exciting, as before now my only legal anime have been what I've seen on TV & Netflix, and a few movies I have bought digitally on Amazon (which to be fair is most of the anime I've seen, but I'll admit I've used sketchy sites in the past).

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Heavyarms55

@RR529 Hey I remember that anime! It was pretty good. Is it the whole show? I long since stopped buying anime DVD/Blue Rays because they were doing a mere 3-4 episodes a disc and it cost like 200-300 dollars just to get one show. I watch 99% of my anime on CR now and for the last 4-5 years or so.

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Link-Hero

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Wait, you have to pay that much in Japan? That's sucks. I usually spend around $15-30USD on movies and $40-100USD for a series. The most expensive I purchased was Yu Yu Hakusho Complete Series for about $170USD.

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Heavyarms55

@Link-Hero Here in Japan, today? I have no idea. I haven't bought a new anime DVD or blue ray in years. Back when I lived in the US it was like 25-35 dollars for one with 3-4 episodes on it.

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RR529

@Heavyarms55, 25 episodes total (so I'm assuming the full series?) among the two collections. First collection has the first 13 episodes across two discs (so probably 6 on one & 5 on the other), and the second collection has the last 7 episodes on one disc.

After shipping & taxes it came to $71, but I had some Amazon credit I got from using one of those grocery rebate apps, so it only cost me $51.

Not a huge fan of Crunchyroll simply for the fact that their simulcasts are subject to Japanese TV broadcast censorship (I know it depends on series, but gore & or nudity, if applicable, can be edited out), and some series can have certain aspects of their animation touched up for the Japanese home release, which western releases are based on (though again this depends on series, and from what I understand isn't quite as common as it used to be). It's been years since I've tried CR though, so maybe they've added more options.

Plus, even Netflix has trouble keeping HD resolution during streaming, especially for anime in my experience (or at least the resolution drops are more noticeable with anime), so I'm looking forward to not being held hostage by image buffering, lol.

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Heavyarms55

@RR529 71 dollars for a 25 episode long series isn't bad at all. 5-7 episodes per disk is so much better than it used to be!

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CanisWolfred wrote:

To be fair, the fact that a lot of shows end on cliffhangers that never get resolved because they're based on ongoing source material is the number 1 reason why I gave up watching adaptations unless they were guaranteed successes that would try to adapt the whole series, or were based on source material I was already actively seeking out (which only happens rarely, but it does happen. See One Punch Man and Vinland Saga for examples). I'm tired of getting one or two seasons, and then being told to go read a book. They're two completely different experiences, and I vastly prefer the audio/visual experience anime brings to the table.

I have slightly similar yet somehow opposite feelings. While it is annoying how often anime stop mid-story because of that, a lot of them are not series I feel I need to see the entirety of anyway. Like even the really good ones. I don't watch series just to see them reach an ending for the sake of reaching an ending, so its kind of an irrelevant point. And quite frankly, most long running series don't end as well as they could regardless.

By contrast, I'm sick of getting into anime that will be going on for like a decade while still not finishing (or still being ongoing) anime I watched when I was a teenager. Why should I care that much about the complete story of MHA that will go on for the next decade when I still haven't even finished half the shonen I've watched?

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RR529

So, I just got confirmation that Toreba has shipped that Rei figure I won.

Outside of my brother, no one in my family even knows I watch anime, so how am I going to explain an 8 inch high figure of an anime girl in a swimsuit, lol?

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RR529

Well, it looks like I'm not going to get that Rei figure I won on Toreba, though it's not their fault.

The Post Office tried delivering it yesterday, but for some reason my brother wasn't paying attention and failed to sign for it (he was awake before I went to work & brought in the mail before he went to work, so I'm not sure how he could have missed it. I told him I had something coming in that needed to be signed for, too), and then apparently the Post Office is expediting it's return to sender, so I can't make plans to get down to the post office to pick it up before it's returned.

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